Oh, it's not, but doesn't matter. The ability to shoot lasers from my eyes is more beneficial to me than not having that ability, but I still don't have it.
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So how is having nothing absolute more beneficial than having something absolute that you can trust and count on?
So you cannot accept it if a Supreme Being laid out absolute morality for us to follow?Oh, it's not, but doesn't matter. The ability to shoot lasers from my eyes is more beneficial to me than not having that ability, but I still don't have it.
So you cannot accept it if a Supreme Being laid out absolute morality for us to follow?
I don't know what I'm trying to do. I'm just asking questions to see where this goes. I know that both God and absolute morality exist, but I know I personally won't prove it to anyone. Just a discussion.....that's all.No, I could completely handle it, but you're making your argument circular. If you're using absolute morality to prove the existence of God, you can't then appeal to the existence of God to prove that morality is absolute. It's called circular logic, and it's invalid.
I don't know what I'm trying to do. I'm just asking questions to see where this goes. I know that both God and absolute morality exist, but I know I personally won't prove it to anyone. Just a discussion.....that's all.
Hey, don't come on this board and tell me what I know and what I don't know. Are you in my mind? No. I am not telling you what you think and mean. So don't do that to me.I think you mean that you think they exist, and you're pretty convinced. You don't actually know.
What you do know, though, is that the argument from morality is invalid, and now you can tell anyone else who asks. Hurray!
But while many agree that killing and stealing is bad, some think it's good.
So how is having nothing absolute more beneficial than having something absolute that you can trust and count on?
Beanieboy,
I remember you from Theologyonline.com You are one of those people who loves to point out the hypocrisy of the way alleged "Christians" act, and the bad things that have been done through history in the name of the church. And I know that people like you attribute the mistakes and bad deeds of individuals and attach them to the organization they claim to represent, even though some individuals are in error. I acknowledge all those things happened. Your mind is clearly made up and you have chosen to deny the living God.
I'm glad you see what I'm saying. Basically, the teachings of Christianity are clear. Whether people follow them or not is another story.Yes, that was me. I had the same name, so that should have been a tip off.
Do I like to point out the hypocracy of Christians and the bad things done in history? Only when a poster seems to call Christians the victims while conveniently ignoring those bad things that Christians have done.
I'm happy that you can acknowledge that those things have been done, while I can also acknowledge that Christians also act very Christ-like (my sister's family takes a Mission Vacation once a year, and works for Habitat for Humanity, Katrina Victims, etc. ) I can further acknowledge that I have seen very Christ-like Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and Atheists, as well as very poorly acting ones.
I have not "made up my mind to deny the living God." I have made up my mind that just because someone claims to be Christian, that they are not necessarily following Christ, or would recognize God if he sat next to them in the bus. (You've been to TOL, and you know what I mean. Anyone who claims that hate is the most loving thing they can do, or hates because God hates, is way off base. Telling sinners how Christians will rejoice in their spilled blood borders on psychotic) And I have made up my mind that no one judges me but God, that no one or nothing can keep me from being loved by God, and that the most important thing that Christ ever taught is to love one another, not be tangled in laws like the Pharisees.
Surely, after telling off the Pharisees in a full Chapter in the Gospel, you would say that Christ had "made up his mind" or that he "denied the living God" to those who claimed to know him so well. He was pointing all that out for a reason, and that wasn't it.
I'm glad you see what I'm saying. Basically, the teachings of Christianity are clear. Whether people follow them or not is another story.
That's a very vague question. What I get out of that is "Is it wrong to stab someone with a knife?" I guess my answer is yes. Where are you going with that?Tackleberry: would you say that a moral quality or status is inherent in an act? For example, would you say that stabbing someone with a knife with malicious intent has some kind of inherent quality of wrongness about it?
That's a very vague question. What I get out of that is "Is it wrong to stab someone with a knife?" I guess my answer is yes. Where are you going with that?
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