Judging all things

BibleBeliever1611 said:

"But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." - 1 Corinthians 2:15

Sometimes Christians tell other Christians not to be so judgmental but the Bible actually teaches that if you are a spiritual person, you will judge all things. So judging all things is a very good thing according to the Bible.

Have you ever felt like you are judging everything and everyone? I have many times. And there's nothing wrong with it.

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When people are being judgmental, this is observed is a carnal form of judgment, and therefore subject to scrutiny.

Next point.

Because our ancestors ate the fruit that resulted in them thinking in terms of everything being good and bad, and this was what changed them so they could no longer be in paradise .. the judging of all things that the carnal mind does ... is far different from the spiritually revived person judging of all things.

Since the spiritually revived person remains in the same decaying body as a temporary dwelling, this is an important point for discernment.

The first person looked at everything and saw the beauty in it, and named all of the animals.

After eating the forbidden fruit and the change it brought about, the first male blamed God for putting the woman there with him, the first female blamed the snake, the snake was silent. The appreciation was gone.

You will judge all things regardless, but only the spiritual person will have thoughts that cannot be discerned or judged by everyone else.

i.e. what's it like to live in that head of yours?

Romans 14:4

BibleBeliever1611 said:

"But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." - 1 Corinthians 2:15

Sometimes Christians tell other Christians not to be so judgmental but the Bible actually teaches that if you are a spiritual person, you will judge all things. So judging all things is a very good thing according to the Bible.

Have you ever felt like you are judging everything and everyone? I have many times. And there's nothing wrong with it.

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Judging things from a moral standpoint is the right thing to do. Being judgmental is not. Compare these two statements:

Don't kill people. Murder is wrong.

And then:

Sorry my friend. We just don't allow people into our church wearing Walmart brand shoes.

friend of said:

Romans 14:4

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In John 7:24 says we’re to judge righteously and 1 Corinthians 6:1-2 says judge believers. Or in Jesus words in Matthew 18:15 “point out their fault”. The Bible according to 2 Timothy 3:16 scripture is for “rebuking, correcting”. Nothing wrong with judgment (especially if you’re a parent). As believers we’re not to condemn as that’s not our job. God is our ultimate judge Isaiah 33:22

BibleBeliever1611 said:

You don't understand what the verse is saying. Judging all things, meaning that you literally judge everything, from all standpoints. Literally "all things"

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Trust me, I understand what the writer is saying. Back up one verse:

1Co 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

We are in agreement that we are to "judge all things", but there is a difference between judging and being judgmental. To be judgmental is a personal trait, and is a bad one. It leads to needlessly criticizing people for most anything at all. But judging right from wrong is not a bad thing. Some people oftentimes use the excuse of "you're being judgmental" to excuse their own bad behavior when it is pointed out to them. Sometimes even the bad behavior of others.

BibleBeliever1611 said:

So judging all things is a very good thing according to the Bible.

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And with the judgment you use you shall be judged.
Be perfect then, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Beware the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy
And I'm sure there will be no problems.

Petros2015 said:

And with the judgment you use you shall be judged.
Be perfect then, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Beware the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy
And I'm sure there will be no problems.

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Matthew 7:1 is the most misused passage in the Bible as it doesn’t say not to judge or that you have to be perfect to judge. Let’s look what Matthew 7:5 clearly says don’t be a hypocrite and then when you can see clearly to remove it from your brothers eye. To add you can remove the speck from your brothers eye would suggest that it’s acceptable to do so under the circumstance you’re doing the exact same things.

For an example if I judge my brother of adultery, yet look at pornography I am being a hypocrite. But if I judge my brother of stealing a car and I am clean of that particular sin, I am not sinning. Remember Jesus said to point out other peoples flaws (Matthew 18:15).

Krav Maga said:

In John 7:24 says we’re to judge righteously and 1 Corinthians 6:1-2 says judge believers. Or in Jesus words in Matthew 18:15 “point out their fault”. The Bible according to 2 Timothy 3:16 scripture is for “rebuking, correcting”. Nothing wrong with judgment (especially if you’re a parent). As believers we’re not to condemn as that’s not our job. God is our ultimate judge Isaiah 33:22

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Amen. "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." (Jn 7:24) The believer's duty is to be light in the world, by God's word. But judgement is only possible under jurisdiction. Husband > wife. Parents > children. Elders > congregation. "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person." (1 Cor 5:12-13)

Judging gently and lovingly though is a challenge, like cutting out a tumour. It's not to be taken lightly. IME it's easier to say nothing, until something must be said on God's time. We're all flawed and tainted, all part of "A wicked and adulterous generation" (Mt 16:4) "For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection" (2 Tim 3) In such a life, "judging" easily breaks relationships, with most rejecting criticism let alone judgement. Takes lots of patience and wisdom, love and prayer.

BibleBeliever1611 said:

"But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." - 1 Corinthians 2:15

Sometimes Christians tell other Christians not to be so judgmental but the Bible actually teaches that if you are a spiritual person, you will judge all things. So judging all things is a very good thing according to the Bible.

Have you ever felt like you are judging everything and everyone? I have many times. And there's nothing wrong with it.

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Sure thing! Evaluating and discerning (i.e. "judgement") things are a very important part of the Christian life. It's just, we need to keep our attitudes in check when engaging other people. It's not like we're fighting a carnal war.

Krav Maga said:

For an example if I judge my brother of adultery, yet look at pornography I am being a hypocrite. But if I judge my brother of stealing a car and I am clean of that particular sin, I am not sinning

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No?

Well, you are not a car thief in the above example...
But if the car thief in the above example is being judged as a sinner by the porn addict
Eventually the porn addict is going to have a problem
And face the same judgment he gave to the car thief
At which point, he may be hoping it was a merciful one...

Obviously they should both confess and repent
And realize there was never all that much difference
Between either of them

"You stole my car!"
"Yeah dude... I'm actually here to talk about what I found in the trunk..."

BibleBeliever1611 said:

Have you ever felt like you are judging everything and everyone? I have many times. And there's nothing wrong with it.

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Kind of. Self-righteousness, moral supremacy, political correctness, identity politics, etc, aside... The purpose of judgement is to discern right/wrong, healthy/unhealthy, clean/unclean, good/evil. Hence Solomon's famous wisdom and justice. Righteous judgement thus prevents people ending up on the wrong path, to avoid prison, and hell. Early detection is ofc best. "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." (Pro 22:6)

Deuteronomy 16:18-19 Judges and officers shalt thou make thee in all thy gates, which the Lord thy God giveth thee, throughout thy tribes: and they shall judge the people with just judgment. Thou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous.

Prime examples are Christ himself, and Paul and the Apostles. All voluntarily submitted to local authorities, council and chief priests, under Roman rule, under Caesar. Ultimately under God.

Tacitus said, "The worse the state, the more laws it has." This says everything about the level of depravity nowadays, a million laws for everything.
ANCIENT ROMAN JUSTICE SYSTEM AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF ROMAN LAW | Facts and Details

2 Tim 2:25-26 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.