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Judge postpones ‘birther’ hearing until Monday; Orly Taitz claims to have Obama birth

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by HerbieHeadley, Sep 12, 2009.

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  1. HerbieHeadley

    HerbieHeadley North American Energy Independence Now!

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    Not wrong.
     
  2. HerbieHeadley

    HerbieHeadley North American Energy Independence Now!

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    Did not state that Wong Kim Ark was a natural born citizen.

    Only that he had the same citizen rights as a Natural born.

    There is a difference, as shown by Judge Gray's decision.

    Also, isn't it interesting who had nominated Justice Gray to the court? Why it was our good ole Chester Aurthur! Imagine that, something fishy here. :p

    Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz - Supplemental Brief
     
  3. HerbieHeadley

    HerbieHeadley North American Energy Independence Now!

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    If Obama was not eligable to begin with, why would he need to be impeached? Just escort him outta there.

    We do love the Constitution and Obama's Arab/Anglo Saxon/African race has nothing to do with his not being eligable.


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    The actual text of the THIRD CONGRESS in 1795 states, "...children of citizens [plural = both parents] of the United States...shall be considered citizens of the United States; Provided That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident in the United States..." (THIRD CONGRESS Session II. Ch.21. 1795, Approved January 29, 1795, pp. 414-415. Document margin note: "How children shall obtain citizenship through their parents" Document margin note: "Former Act repealed 1790 ch.3.")

    The actual text of the FIRST CONGRESS in 1790 states,
    "...children of citizens (plural = both parents) of the United States...shall be considered as natural born citizens of the United States; Provided That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident in the United States..." (FIRST CONGRESS Session II Ch.4 1790, Approved March 26, 1790, pp. 103-104. Document margin note: "Their children residing here, deemed citizens." Document margin note: "Also, children of citizens born beyond sea, & c. Exceptions.")
    Click here for U.S. State Department 103 page PDF file regarding citizenship

    Natural Born Citizen Defined, Obama is NOT a Natural born Citizen
     
  4. The Lady Kate

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    If you love the Constitution, why is the 14th Amendment feeling like its neglected stepchild?

    REdefined by the 14th Amendment, Obama IS a natural born citizen.
     
  5. CaDan

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    One may become a citizen in one of two ways--by birth or by naturalization. Obama claims by birth--natural birth. Much of that statute was supplanted by the Fourteenth Amendment.

    Marginal notes are not law--they are notations by the collector.
     
  6. CaDan

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    But you engage in the same reasoning as the Court in Dred Scott.

    Quite simply, if Barrack Obama was born in the State or Territory of Hawaii, he is a natural born citizen of the United States, unless his parents were ministers of a foreign power. Since they definitely were not, these arguments based upon his father's citizenship are baseless and frivolous.

    The Court in Wong Kim Ark addressed this. It is not on all fours, because Wong Kim Ark did not run for president, but it is pretty indicative of how the legal issue will be decided.
     
  7. The Lady Kate

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    How fitting.
     
  8. PreachersWife2004

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    MOD HAT ON

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