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Judge Everybody

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by kdet, Aug 20, 2003.

  1. Lanakila

    Lanakila Not responsible for the changes here.

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    *Mod Hat On* Either obey the rules and keep the thread on topic and away from personal attacks or this thread as well as others like it will be closed, and maybe even warnings issued. This is getting ridiculous folks. Lets at least act like mature people or avoid the discussion altogether if you cannot. *Mod Hat Off*
     
  2. SqueezetheShaman

    SqueezetheShaman Well-Known Member

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    Death and life are in the power
    of the tongue and they who
    indulge [abuse] it, shall eat the
    fruit of it [for death of life].
    - GOD, Proverbs 18:21,
     
  3. kdet

    kdet God lives in us

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    I'd still like to know how we are not to judge people like Hilter and others that we KNOW have committed evil acts.
     
  4. OldBadfish

    OldBadfish Well-Known Member

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    We are to judge, we have to make judgements to know the fruit, it's a necessary thing, everyone makes judgements every day.

    This isn't the same as condemnations, if I say, "Hey what you are doing is a sin and I can't have any part of that" then that is necessary judgement.

    I thought TheBear kinda explained all that and cleared it up with "relevant" scripture.

    And I'll tell you what, I have seen more judgements against Christians around here than the other way around, liberal Christians and atheists cry judgement, but they do a heck of a lot of judging themselves. :)
     
  5. Inspired

    Inspired only hurts when I breathe

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    Pointing out someone has flaws isn't judging them. Condeming them and passing sentence on them because of those flaws is.
     
  6. kdet

    kdet God lives in us

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    I'm trying to get it, really I am.
    :(
     
  7. GTX

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    Ok, I condemn you to 1 year for being bad. How does mans judgement hold any value, just brush it off, you know whats a sin and you KNOW how to repent from those sins, God will judge you in that respect, making judgements on a website is laughable because we don't know the person enough, and so on.

    Personal judgements should not be for public display.

    Judgements that concern our safety or faith is necessary and should probably be something that does not need to be public, unless you stand vehemently against Gods word and teach it as a false witness, then you should be exposed, as Christians shouldn't be misled by heresy, wouldn't you think?
     
  8. GTX

    GTX <font size=1><font color=gray><b>Rapid Transit Aut

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    I think you're getting it, if you see heresy or what you believe to be heresy then point it out, as Christians we definitely know certain things that are heresy or false teaching, if it's contrversial and not clear then discussion is best especially if it is not addressed in scripture.

    Does that make sense?

    And there is nothing wrong IMO with contending Gods word with vigor and a sword, I don't do it around here anymore much, but i don't think there is anything wrong with it.

    But number 1 is handling folks gently, especially those that are trying to get out of a sinful lifestyle, if they insist on promoting sin as not a sin and are in definite contradiction to Gods word, the best thing to do is bring out the scripture stick.
     
  9. GTX

    GTX <font size=1><font color=gray><b>Rapid Transit Aut

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    Whatever you do don't leave, we need more fundies that are serious about scripture, you got the cool avatar and you got Gods word, and if you enjoy spreading Gods word, then keep on trucking.

    Just don't stoop to anyones level if they are being ornery, because then nothing gets accomplished, rise above it, and carry on, don't get stuck in deadlocked circular debates, move on.

    I know what it's like to present my views and scripture and get chastised, but don't let it get to your mind, move along and thats about it.

    Now to teach myself that.:D
     
  10. kdet

    kdet God lives in us

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    Thanks a lot GTX you did help.
    I guess I keep getting hung up on how people define judging someone.
    I mean if I see someone hurt a child or an animal you bet I'm going to say something to that person and isn't that judging that person then?
    If I see someone calling something I know to be bad,good..I will stand up and say so.


    Is It Right to Judge?

    How many times have you heard someone whine, "Judge not, that ye be not judged?" This verse of Scripture from Matthew 7:1 is often quoted out of context by people who are terrified at the idea of someone preaching against sin or pointing out any form of error in anyone, especially in themselves.

    As I stood in a voting line one day I overheard a woman justifying her foolish choice for president by saying, "Well, we aren't supposed to judge." Imagine that! Choosing NOT to judge a political candidate on election day! No wonder our nation is in such a mess!

    As for Matthew 7:1, the context (verses 1-5) allows judging after you have first judged YOURSELF. Jesus did not make a blanket statement against judgment. He simply pointed out a RULE for judging.

    Now, the word "judge" in its various forms (judgeth, judging, judgment, judges, etc) is found over 700 times in God's word. One whole book of the Bible is titled "Judges" for it was written at a time when God raised up judges to lead His people.

    As we are about to see, God EXPECTS His people to judge. In fact, you are sinning against God if you refuse to judge! (Read that again, please)

    God Expects Us to Judge

    "The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment." (Psa. 37:30) A righteous person will talk of judgment. He will not REFUSE to judge. He will talk judgment.

    "Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph." (Amos 5:14-15) How can you hate the evil and love the good if you refuse to judge? You can't. You are SINNING when you refuse to judge.


    http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/Judging.html
     
  11. kdet

    kdet God lives in us

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    Judge Scripturally

    Isaiah 8:20 says, "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Our standard is God's word, not our feelings, our traditions, or our opinions. Right and wrong should always be determined by God's word.

    Don't Judge When God's Word Is Silent

    If God's word is silent about a subject, then you may not have to judge at all. Don't rush to judgment on an issue when the Bible says very little or is silent about it. Don't make more of a matter than God makes of it. A good example of this is found in Colossians 2:16: "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" That is, these are not subjects of great importance today, so let's not make these great issues of judgment.

    Pray for Good Judgement Ability

    When Solomon received his kingdom he asked God to "Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people?" (I Kings 3:9) James 1:5 says, "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." We should pray for good judgment ability.

    Don't Respect Persons

    Proverbs 24:23 says, "These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment." Treat all parties fairly without favoring anyone, such as family members or friends. A truly fair judge is blind and deaf to any outer influence. (Isa. 42:1, 19-21)

    Judge in Truth

    Do not judge another when you do not have all the relevant facts. Jeremiah 5:1 says, "Run ye to and fro through the streets of Jerusalem, and see now, and know, and seek in the broad places thereof, if ye can find a man, if there be any that executeth judgment, that seeketh the truth; and I will pardon it." A true judge is one who seeks the truth. If you must judge, be sure and get all the facts. A Japanese proverb says to "search seven times before you judge."

    Judge Mercifully

    Remember the words of Jesus in Matthew 7:2: "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." You'll reap what you sow (Gal. 6:7-8). If you are swift and harsh in judging others, then God will see to it that you receive the same from others. Has God not been very merciful to you, even though you deserved it not? Likewise, you should exercise mercy toward others.

    Don't Forget to Judge Yourself

    I Corinthians 11:30-31: "For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged." If you are a true Christian, then you belong to God. You are God's child. If you refuse to judge and improve yourself as a child of God, then God will take it upon Himself to judge you. Many of the troubles that we face in life are nothing more than God's way of judging us since we often neglect to judge ourselves.


    http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/Judging.html
     
  12. HisPlumMission

    HisPlumMission New Member

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    This is excellent.

    But I just noticed that under your name it says "banned" and I wondered if you were banned or what the deal is.

    I have noticed that regardless of where you post the same band of homosexual and/or advocates follow you around...and are often so very hurtful that it must be difficult for you not to be in return. I'm so sorry. I would PM you, but your box is full.

    I know what that is like because I've dealt with it before on other boards, and much worse than that since they got my home phone number and address. It's a nightmare...I'm still living it. But I've been told that the best thing I can do is to keep making others aware, and so every chance I get (when I feel emotionally strong enough) I talk and write about what has been done to my family and me as a warning to others. But it has not lessened the severity of retaliation much at all as yet.

    The militant and aggressive homosexuals and those that advocate for them don't wish to be exposed and often seem to have no conscience whatsoever on how far they will go to silence someone.

    But these are very different I hope from the majority of people that consider themselves homosexual. I know some have also been kind and understanding and have showed remorse regarding the horrific suffering that others have caused. They wanted me to be sure that not all of them were like that. I don't believe they all are, but some are just horrible.

    I just hope that's not why you have been banned...due to repeated reports from those that are obviously following you just to cause you grief.
     
  13. SqueezetheShaman

    SqueezetheShaman Well-Known Member

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    not important :rolleyes:
     
  14. cbk

    cbk Guest

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    :scratch:

    Hey, you are showing banned too.... :eek:
     
  15. Lanakila

    Lanakila Not responsible for the changes here.

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    Whether or why someone is banned is not something to be discussed in the open forums. Cbk you aren't banned, or you couldn't be posting here.

    [nodis]
     
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