MUCH has correctly been said about the perils of a Donald Trump US presidency. But, not enough has been said about the positives of a potential President Hillary Clinton.
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I think we can fairly say Australia....particularly its government....was in HRC's camp.
I think we can fairly say Russia was in Trump Tower.
Wonderful. It shouldn't have been to difficult to verify those people were all in the same place. Why didn't they?
I believe they had contemporaneous verification. Durham: These meetings were documented by Downer on May 11, 2016 and by Australian Diplomat-I later in the month.
Which would be an easy accusation to make considering the public nature of her investigation.
Whatever accusation you're referring to is a moot point since we now know Russia was helping Trump and the campaign knew it.
The required predicate for opening a full investigation does not articulate in terms of evidence, and Cross fire Hurricane was not investigating Trump.
How? Russians released the info on their own.
Yeah, that's essentially what Papadopoulos was describing.
Ok....so in this case, we lack the factual basis.....as until this point, only allegations have been made. Those don't suddenly become facts when spoken.
It's a statement of facts that reasonably indicate an activity constituting a federal crime or a threat to the national security has or may have occurred, is or may be occurring, or will or may occur. The decision was unanimous by all FBI senior executives.
Do you understand the difference between evidence and allegation?
It's a moot point since I'm sure the FBI knows.
Right....but given the sensitive nature of investigating 1 of 2 candidates for office....particularly under the orders of the opposite party....one needs more than hearsay.
Who said it was under the orders of the opposite party and why should that even matter? It was the leaking of hacked Hillary emails through WikiLeaks in Mid-July that was the impetus for the two diplomats to come forward with their hearsay about Russia releasing Hillary emails to help the Trump campaign back in early May. There was the crime they heard about happening right in front of their eyes. That should count as some verification.
As for Papadopoulos forming friendships.....is this a joke?
From the Mueller report:
Papadopoulos’s Russia-related communications with Campaign officials continued throughout the spring and summer of 2016. On May 4, 2016, he forwarded to Lewandowski an email from Timofeev raising the possibility of a meeting in Moscow, asking Lewandowski whether that was “something we want to move forward with.”469 The next day, Papadopoulos forwarded the same Timofeev email to Sam Clovis, adding to the top of the email “Russia update.”470 He included the same email in a May 21, 2016 message to senior Campaign official Paul Manafort, under the subject line “Request from Russia to meet Mr. Trump,” stating that “Russia has been eager to meet Mr. Trump for quite sometime and have been reaching out to me to discuss.”471 Manafort forwarded the message to another Campaign official, without including Papadopoulos, and stated: “Let[’]s discuss. We need someone to communicate that [Trump) is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the Campaign so as not to send any signal.”472
On June 1, 2016, Papadopoulos replied to an earlier email chain with Lewandowski about a Russia visit, asking if Lewandowski “want[ed] to have a call about this topic” and whether “we were following up with it.”473 After Lewandowski told Papadopoulos to “connect with” Clovis because he was “running point,” Papadopoulos emailed Clovis that “the Russian MFA” was asking him “if Mr. Trump is interested in visiting Russia at some point.”474 Papadopoulos wrote in an email that he “[w]anted to pass this info along to you for you to decide what’s best to do with it and what message I should send (or to ignore).”475
After several email and Skype exchanges with Timofeev,476 Papadopoulos sent one more email to Lewandowski on June 19, 2016, Lewandowski’s last day as campaign manager.477 The email stated that “[t]he Russian ministry of foreign affairs” had contacted him and asked whether, if Mr. Trump could not travel to Russia, a campaign representative such as Papadopoulos could attend meetings.478 Papadopoulos told Lewandowski that he was “willing to make the trip off the record if it’s in the interest of Mr. Trump and the campaign to meet specific people.”
Yeah...troubling. This never happens. Foreign leaders and emissaries never meet with presidential candidates.
To discuss getting them dirt on their opponent and releasing sanctions?
Right....you would want to investigate the allegations. Assuming them true would be biased and catastrophically stupid.
It's futile to argue semantics that can only end in hypocritical bias; even if I were to assume the report was false, I would still have to investigate.
Look at it this way, it was already true that Russia was dumping Hillary's emails anonymously, so the FBI would want to investigate how the Trump campaign knew about it months in advance. Just like they would want to know who Roger Stone's contact in WikiLeaks was.
