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Joel 1:6, 2:2-10 and Revelation 9:2-10

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Servant4Christ, Jul 3, 2003.

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  1. Servant4Christ

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    If you read both Joel 1:6, 2:2-9, and Revelation 9:2-10, you will see that they both mention something about locusts.


    Now, take a look at Revelation 9:3-10


    Now you see many comparisons. There is a chance that these are the same
    locusts in Joel, but, there are other possibilities.

    As you can see, "teeth as lions" is mentioned in both, but Joel is singular " teeth as a lion", which doesn't change anything. When they arrive, you can
    see in both passages that the skis get darkened. Both passages have the
    "appearance of horses" in them. In both passages, it describes that when they run, it sounds as of chariots. Joel says " noise of chariots ", and Revelation says " sounds of chariots."

    I believe that both passages describe the same locusts.

    Do you think so as well?

    God bless you brothers and sisters.
     
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  2. Brain Damage

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    Interesting thread Servant4Christ .
    Something a little different from the usual "Tribulation" or "Rapture" type threads. :cool:

    I've "also" noticed the similarity between Joel and revelation concerning these locusts.

    I'm not positive about this but I have heard that a locusts life span is about 5 months , kinda makes you think doesn't it.
     
  3. Servant4Christ

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    Yes it does. But, these locusts, are they to be taken literally, or symbolically. These creatures
    sound horrifying. Locusts? They sound more like
    some strange new animal .
     
  4. parousia70

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    Exodus 10:12-15
    And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand over the land of Egypt for the locusts, that they may come up upon the land of Egypt, and eat every herb of the land, even all that the hail hath left. 13 And Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and the LORD brought an east wind upon the land all that day, and all that night; and when it was morning, the east wind brought the locusts. 14 And the locusts went up over all the land of Egypt, and rested in all the coasts of Egypt: very grievous were they; before them there were no such locusts as they, NEITHER AFTER THEM SHALL BE SUCH.
     
  5. Servant4Christ

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    Nice post Parousia70.
     
  6. parousia70

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    Thnaks, but I guess I was hoping for some thoughts on that scripture.

    Looks to me like the bible teaches here that the plague of Locusts God brought upon Egypt through Moses, wasthe worst plague of locusts that ever was or EVER SHALL BE.

    If that is true, How could there be any future, worse plague of locusts?
     
  7. JesusServant

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    Ask John someday Lastda... I mean Parousia :)
     
  8. parousia70

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    Boy you sure got me with that one! (maybe, as long as Lastda... isn't someone else after all, funny thing is, you'll never know for sure! :p )

    Congratulations!
    Any more super detective work up your sleeve, or would you care to actually address the issue?
     
  9. Faithful1

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    Interesting connection, Servant4Christ.

    Certainly Joel refers to last day events as Revelation. However, do both references to locust refer to the same thing?

    By the way Parousia70 you make a good point which forwards my position that the Revelation locusts are, in reality, demons. It is a reference to an attack by hordes of demonic creatures.

    The point that these are not natural locust is made clear by the saying: "they should not hurt trees or any green thing.." and by the description of their appearance.

    However, I see Joel differently based on Joel's own words - if you are interested...

    Faithful1
     
  10. JesusServant

    JesusServant do not stray too far left nor right but CENTER

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    What issue?
     
  11. parousia70

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    I'm sorry, I figured that you'd know the "issue" and the "thread topic" would be synonymous.

    I apologize, for I was mistaken.
     
  12. parousia70

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    Interesting.
    So you would argue that the Locusts in Revelation are not to be taken Literally, but instead should be understood symbolicly.

    With that I would agree. While I may differ with you on what the symbol represents, I stand beside you in your affirmation of the symbol itself.
     
  13. Faithful1

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    And to you the locust 'symbloically' represents ..?
     
  14. Servant4Christ

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    God's army is a bunch of demons? I doubt that.
    I believe they are either locusts, or they are God's
    heavenly angels (possibly seraphim?)
     
  15. Faithful1

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    I think you missed my point altogether. :scratch: I was implying that the Revelation scriptures of locusts are NOT referring to the same thing as Joel's prophecy BECAUSE Joel's prophecy specifically calls these "a great people, and strong.." and calls them "his (the Lord's) army".

    The Revelation locusts are obviously an evil army, both from their source and in their intention. They came from 'the bottomless pit" and they had a king over them "named Apollyon".

    Faithful 1
     
  16. Faithful1

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    It ought to obvious what the locusts of Revelation are.

    From the beginning of Chap. 9 we see the source: "I saw a star fall from heaven to the earth" - The usual and obvious reference to a fallen angel.

    Also note their king: "And they had a king over them which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name is Abaddon, but in Greek hath his name Apollyon".

    This is definitely not a reference to "the Lord's army" as in Joel.

    Faithful 1
     
  17. Brain Damage

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    A few years back I came across a story in TIME magazine about robotic bugs , after reading your first post I did a search on the internet and have a look what I found .

    http://www.spacedaily.com/news/mars-robot-02b.html

    There's lots more info on these critters , just put "Robotic bugs" into a seach engine and go for it.

    I always wondered about Revelation 9...

    And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
    4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
    5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
    6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
    7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
    8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
    9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
    10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
    11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.


    Could it be?
     
  18. Faithful1

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    Possibly a genetically altered creature? That got out of hand?...... :scratch:

    Of course, isn't that what mankind itself has become?
     
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