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Even more evidence for the left to ignore. If you rely on the MSM exclusively you really don’t know what has happened and what is happening.

If there is all this evidence, then why is Trump losing in the courts and especially the Supreme Court where he has three appointed judges by him?

Not sure the left is ignoring the evidence as much as if the courts are deciding it's nothing, then it's nothing. We have faith in our elections and court system.

At least, that is how me and my girlfriend are looking at things.
 
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If there is all this evidence, then why is Trump losing in the courts and especially the Supreme Court where he has three appointed judges by him?

Not sure the left is ignoring the evidence as much as if the courts are deciding it's nothing, then it's nothing. We have faith in our elections and court system.

At least, that is how me and my girlfriend are looking at things.
The Supreme Court did not rule on the merits of fraud charges they ruled on standing. IOW they said Texas and the other states didn’t have standing to complain about how other states held their elections. Instead of placing all of your marbles on the previous court rulings maybe you should ask why Trump is still standing at this late date and wait for the Supreme Court to rule on the evidence of fraud. Until a president is sworn in this is still undecided. Did you actually look at any of the evidence I posted? If not why comment on my post if you did why not comment on the said evidence?it is my opinion one has to be willfully ignorant on the facts to not at least be concerned if this election was stolen. All I hear is cries of no evidence and the listing of failed court cases. If you ignore all previous questions answer this one. Are you 100% confidant we had a free and fair election?
 
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The Supreme Court did not rule on the merits of fraud charges they ruled on standing. IOW they said Texas and the other states didn’t have standing to complain about how other states held their elections. Instead of placing all of your marbles on the previous court rulings maybe you should ask why Trump is still standing at this late date and wait for the Supreme Court to rule on the evidence of fraud. Until a president is sworn in this is still undecided. Did you actually look at any of the evidence I posted? If not why comment on my post if you did why not comment on the said evidence?it is my opinion one has to be willfully ignorant on the facts to not at least be concerned if this election was stolen. All I hear is cries of no evidence and the listing of failed court cases. If you ignore all previous questions answer this one. Are you 100% confidant we had a free and fair election?

Because as I said, I believe in our election process and the courts. Until the courts actually rule in his favor, nothing that has been presented matters.
 
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If you ignore all previous questions answer this one. Are you 100% confidant we had a free and fair election?

Until proven otherwise in a court of law, emphatically yes!
 
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Even more evidence for the left to ignore. If you rely on the MSM exclusively you really don’t know what has happened and what is happening.

Evidence? One women showed how it was possible to revote ballots in the system used. Did she show that this had been done? No. Another woman showed that some voters were registered to vote in more than one state. She did not show that any of them had voted more than once. I'm registered to vote in two states. Pennsylvania never removed me when I moved--I know that only because my mom still votes where I used to vote and she saw that my name is still on the list. I notified the Commonwealth when I moved but they never removed my name. Voting in more than one state is illegal. Being on the roster because of a clerical mistake is not illegal.

Again, where is the proof? What you provided doesn't prove anything. This is why courts are throwing the Trump cases out--because no evidence has been provided.
 
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Evidence? One women showed how it was possible to revote ballots in the system used. Did she show that this had been done?
. That will come. It was not that woman’s job to prove that fraud had been committed only that the machines were not reliable. One test in Michigan showed and error rate of 68% on these machines. I guess the argument now is they could be wrong 68% of the time but were they? Let’s get real in our analysis of the facts. Statistical analysis shows an impossibility for Joe to get massive numbers claimed by the left.What have I provided?? More than enough for reasonable people to at least be concerned about this election. Joe did not stay in his basement, had no ability to draw a crowd when he did stick his head out then get more legitimate votes than Obama. Never happened. If Trump triggers his executive order from 2018( he saw this fraud coming) a lot of liberals will be crying, screaming and burning down cities. BYW conservatives have been peacefully showing support for Trump but have not yet destroyed property. We all know where the violence comes from.
 
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. That will come. It was not that woman’s job to prove that fraud had been committed only that the machines were not reliable. One test in Michigan showed and error rate of 68% on these machines. I guess the argument now is they could be wrong 68% of the time but were they? Let’s get real in our analysis of the facts. Statistical analysis shows an impossibility for Joe to get massive numbers claimed by the left.What have I provided?? More than enough for reasonable people to at least be concerned about this election. Joe did not stay in his basement, had no ability to draw a crowd when he did stick his head out then get more legitimate votes than Obama. Never happened. If Trump triggers his executive order from 2018( he saw this fraud coming) a lot of liberals will be crying, screaming and burning down cities. BYW conservatives have been peacefully showing support for Trump but have not yet destroyed property. We all know where the violence comes from.
In other words, the “evidence” you posted proves nothing. Fraud could happen. Did it? You say that proof “will come.” When? Trump lost over 50 court cases for lack of evidence. The Supteme Court threw out the Texas case. The Electoral College has voted. Trump lost the election. Biden won.
 
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I liken this desperate attempt to support this fraud to trying to save the titanic with bubble gum while the musicians are singing “we are not sinking “ with water up to their necks. Biden is not president unless sworn in . Watch that executive order. The electors vote means little at this point. Stay tuned. No one is conceding yet. Most liberals i have interacted with wouldn’t know “evidence “ if it slapped them in the face. These Dominion voting machines have been proven to have been built for the purpose of manipulation of votes. Why the cover up if the machines are legit?Judges and lawyers have been threatened. Why did the female judge in Georgia give a favorable ruling then change it 20 min later? We could talk proof all day and many would still keep their head in the sand with fingers in ears screaming na na na.
 
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I liken this desperate attempt to support this fraud to trying to save the titanic with bubble gum while the musicians are singing “we are not sinking “ with water up to their necks. Biden is not president unless sworn in . Watch that executive order. The electors vote means little at this point. Stay tuned. No one is conceding yet.

Biden won the Electoral College vote yesterday, so yes, the vote means a great deal. Are you claiming that an Executive Order can supersede the vote of the Electoral College?

Most liberals i have interacted with wouldn’t know “evidence “ if it slapped them in the face. These Dominion voting machines have been proven to have been built for the purpose of manipulation of votes. Why the cover up if the machines are legit?

Except evidence of voter fraud hasn't been presented to the courts which is why Trump's cases have been tossed.

Judges and lawyers have been threatened.

Proof?

Why did the female judge in Georgia give a favorable ruling then change it 20 min later?

Case name? I need to look this one up.

We could talk proof all day and many would still keep their head in the sand with fingers in ears screaming na na na.

The only ones with their heads in the sand are Trump and his toadies.
 
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Georgia Law suit referenced in this video you might have to suffer through some truth about this election to get to it.
No, I don't have time to listen to a 25-minute interview with looser Sidney Powell. You claimed the case exists and it was before a female judge, but I'm not finding it. The cases I'm seeing that involved single judges were before men. Provide evidence of it. What was the case name? What was the name of the judge? These aren't difficult questions. Burden of proof rests with the affirmative.
 
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Even more evidence for the left to ignore. If you rely on the MSM exclusively you really don’t know what has happened and what is happening.
where and when was this and who was the woman speaking?
and why wasn't she testifying?
 
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. That will come. It was not that woman’s job to prove that fraud had been committed only that the machines were not reliable. One test in Michigan showed and error rate of 68% on these machines. I guess the argument now is they could be wrong 68% of the time but were they? Let’s get real in our analysis of the facts.
Nope that is a fake claim by Trump. Trump tweet wrongly suggests there were defects with Michigan voting machines


Statistical analysis shows an impossibility for Joe to get massive numbers claimed by the left.
Something Trump claimed but has no statistics to back it up

What have I provided?? More than enough for reasonable people to at least be concerned about this election. Joe did not stay in his basement, had no ability to draw a crowd when he did stick his head out then get more legitimate votes than Obama. Never happened. If Trump triggers his executive order from 2018( he saw this fraud coming) a lot of liberals will be crying, screaming and burning down cities. BYW conservatives have been peacefully showing support for Trump but have not yet destroyed property. We all know where the violence comes from.
except for the arson the MAGA protesters have committed...but lets not talk about that
 
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Nope that is a fake claim by Trump. Trump tweet wrongly suggests there were defects with Michigan voting machines


Something Trump claimed but has no statistics to back it up

except for the arson the MAGA protesters have committed...but lets not talk about that

Protestors who cause damage should be condemned in the strongest of terms. No matter what side they are on. There is NO excuse for it. None.

Funny thing though. All lot of leftists defended all the rioting and damage done by BLM supporters. Were you one of them? Or did you condemn them as strongly as I just condemned those that torn down the signs and burned them from the black churches. I don't know if you did it not. Just curious.

I sure hope we don't see the kind of damage and violence from those on the right as we saw from those on the left. I'm praying we don't.
 
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So far no court has actually gotten involved yet with these fraud claims. None of them have ordered the Dominion machines brought in to have them shown how they changed votes.

No court has had the courage to say anyone from these swing regions violated the law (even though they did). Many of the courts are summarily dismissing the cases without even an actual trial and presentation of evidence.

The Supreme Court has refuses to hear the Texas case.

The truth here is the courts do not want to be involved. And there is much yet to be done to prove the case. It CANNOT BE DONE IN A MONTH! Anyone who thought so was deluded.

Biden will be sworn in long before any real evidence is ever brought to bear. But I dont think the courts will.ever allow it.
 
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(snip) Most liberals i have interacted with wouldn’t know “evidence “ if it slapped them in the face. (snip)
evidently court do though, which would explain why none of them have accepted anything that any of President Trump's legal team has managed to come up with. Joe Biden is going to be sworn in on Jan 20th, President Trump will be out of the White House. But I bet if he asks real nice President Biden might even let him do a couple of "bunker inspections" even after he gets out, you know, between court dates of course. For old times sake.
tulc(thinks that seems like something President elect Biden would do) :oldthumbsup:
 
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So far no court has actually gotten involved yet with these fraud claims. None of them have ordered the Dominion machines brought in to have them shown how they changed votes.
the CEO of Dominion testified before the Michigan legislature today.


“Would it be impossible for anything to be manipulated,” asked State Senator Michael MacDonald, a Republican.

“I don’t think so, but if it was possible, it would certainly be detectable,” Mr. Poulos responded, pointing to Michigan’s use of paper ballots. “If there was any manipulation of the system, those paper ballots would not match the machine totals.”



Which beautifully shows the problem with the claims of voting machine fraud.

No court has had the courage to say anyone from these swing regions violated the law (even though they did).
Evidence?


Many of the courts are summarily dismissing the cases without even an actual trial and presentation of evidence.
Specific examples?


The Supreme Court has refuses to hear the Texas case.
which came as a surprise to no one.

The truth here is the courts do not want to be involved. And there is much yet to be done to prove the case. It CANNOT BE DONE IN A MONTH! Anyone who thought so was deluded.

Biden will be sworn in long before any real evidence is ever brought to bear. But I dont think the courts will.ever allow it.
What "evidence" do you believe will be miraculously discovered in the future?
 
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