Jewish Journalist Arrested at Pro-Hamas Rally In Toronto

[Landon Caeli]

My question is: since when is "Zionist" a slur? That is a simple question

Yeah, i don't know. Probably it is though, considering he's a Canadian, and not an Israeli... Because I think "Zionists" are those who live in Israel - so since he's not, it becomes a slur.

 

[DaisyDay]

Yeah, it could be biased, IDK.

But of course, you definitely are shocked and opposed by his removal and arrest from his neighborhood. You're as outraged as I am about it.

At this time I am not shocked and outraged as you are. Canada has different laws than America does concerning free speech. All I've seen so far is the telling from a single POV, far right at that.

Calling an anti-genocide march "pro-Hamas" is biased. Being against the current atrocities inflicted on Gaza and flooding into the West Bank is not anti-Semitic or pro-Hamas.

It was not easy to find an alternate take, but here is one from a leftist pov:

Video: far-right Rebel News CEO arrested by Toronto police for breach of peace

Ezra Levant arrested after refusing to leave after being accused of inciting crowd Ezra Levant, the CEO of far-right website ‘Rebel News’, was arrested on Sunday by Toronto Police for b…

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The Canadian pro-Palestinian demonstrators were protesting against Israel’s murder of around 200,000 Palestinians in its Gaza genocide, overwhelmingly women and children.​

If he was merely reporting on the protest, then his being a far-right provocateur should not be a pretext for his arrest.

 

[DaisyDay]

Yeah, i don't know. Probably it is though, considering he's a Canadian, and not an Israeli...

What has being Canadian got to do with it?

Because I think "Zionists" are those who live in Israel - so since he's not, it becomes a slur.

Why do you think Zionists are only those who live in Israel? A good many Jews living in Israel are not Zionists and a good many Christians in America are Zionists.

Zionism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Landon Caeli]

What has being Canadian got to do with it?


Why do you think Zionists are only those who live in Israel? A good many Jews living in Israel are not Zionists and a good many Christians in America are Zionists.

Zionism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

...So are you a Zionist? If not, does that mean you believe Israel should forfeit its land and government over to the non-Jewish population?

...Does the non-zionist advocate all Jews with European blood mix be exiled?

...What does it mean to *not* be a Zionist?

 

[DaisyDay]

...So are you a Zionist?

Not a Zionist.

If not, does that mean you believe Israel should forfeit its land and government over to the non-Jewish population?

No, that bird has flown. Israel should stop trying to push all the Palestinians out of Gaza and the West Bank. Allow the Gazans to run their own land, instead of boxing them in on all sides and confiscating their money and shooting people tending their own orchards too close to the border.

And yes, the Palestinians need to cease violence against Israel.

...Does the non-zionist advocate all Jews with European blood mix be exiled?

Not that I've ever heard.

...What does it mean to *not* be a Zionist?

That's more than I want to go into right now on Thanksgiving Day.

 

[mindlight]

Ironically, many anti-Semites are strong Zionists and pro-Israel. They don't like Jewish people but love the very idea of the Jewish state, conveniently over there.

That was the case in the days of Balfour and his declaration in 1917 which paved the way for a Jewish state. He was opposed to Jewish immigration to the UK. But today I am not sure who you are referring to.

 

[RileyG]

Ironically, many anti-Semites are strong Zionists and pro-Israel. They don't like Jewish people but love the very idea of the Jewish state, conveniently over there.

Really? That doesn’t make much sense to me.

 

[Valletta]

That was the case in the days of Balfour and his declaration in 1917 which paved the way for a Jewish state. He was opposed to Jewish immigration to the UK. But today I am not sure who you are referring to.

The Palestinian Arabs’ Real Enemies - Geller Report

Palestinians in Gaza are the victims both of a death cult —Hamas — and of what he calls “woke elites" in the West, for whom the “issue of Palestine” has become “a vessel for the fashionable anxieties of the privileged.”

gellerreport.com

I don't think there will be a two-state solution.