Jesus, YHVH the Son, is the Arch [highest] - Angel [messenger] of the LORD [Father]

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Jesus, YHVH the Son, is the Arch [highest] - Angel [messenger] of the LORD [Father].

[Uncreated Creator, Eternal, ever glorifying the Father, the highest sent Apostle of the Father, for Who is as God, the Highest Messenger?]

This is the Orthodox Position [though I may not agree with every little nuance of the following quotations]. In demonstration of this fact, citations as follows:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Melito of Sardis[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] (wrote AD 165 – AD 175, died c. AD 180) was the bishop of Sardis near Smyrna in western Anatolia.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Cureton's Spicilegium Syriacum, contaning remains of Bardeson, Meliton, Ambrose and Mara Bar Serapion. Now first edited, with an English translation and notes, by the Rev. William Cureton, M.A. F.R.S. Chaplain in Ordinary to the Queen, Rector of St. Margaret's, and Canon of Westminster. London: Francis and John Rivington, St. Paul's Churchyard and Waterloo Place. 1855.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 53] From Meliton the Bishop; On Faith.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]We have made collections from the Law and the Prophets relative to those things which have been declared respecting our Lord Jesus Christ, that we may prove to your love, that He is perfect reason, the Word of God; who was begotten before the light; who was Creator together with the Father; who was the fashioner of man; who was all in all; who among the Patriarchs was Patriarch; who in the law was the Law; among the priests Chief priest; amongst kings Governor; among prophets the Prophet; among the angels Archangel; in the Voice the Word; among spirits Spirit; in the Father the Son; in God God- the king forever and ever. For this was He who was pilot to Noah; who conducted Abraham; who was bound with Isaac, who was in exile with Jacob, who was sold with Joseph, who was captain with Moses; who was the divider of the inheritance with Jesus the Son of Nun, who in David and the prophets foretold his own sufferings, who was incarnate in the Virgin, who was born at Bethlehem, (33) who was wrapped in swaddling clothes in the manger, who was seen of the shepherd, who was glorified of the angels, who was worshipped of the Magi, who was pointed out by John, who assembled the Apostles, who preached the kingdom, who healed the maimed, who gave light to the blind, who raised the dead, who appeared in the temple, who was not believed on by the people, who was betrayed [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]by [Page 53-54] Judas, who was laid hold on by the priests, who was condemned by Pilate, who was transfixed in the flesh, who was hanged upon the tree, who was buried in the earth, who rose from the dead, who appeared to the Apostles, who ascended to heaven, who sitteth on the right hand of the Father, who is the rest of those that are departed, the recoverer of those who were lost, the light of those who are in darkness, the deliverer of those who are captives, the guide of those who have gone astray, the refuge of the afflicted, the bridegroom of the Church, the charioteer of the Cherubim, the captain of the angels, God who is of God, the Son who is of the Father, Jesus Christ, the King for ever and ever. Amen. ..." [Page 53-54] - https://archive.org/stream/spicilegiumsyria00cureuoft#page/53/mode/1up[/FONT]
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Good; Now, do you also say that he is Divine with the exact same Divinity as God?

 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Speaking of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"the Angel Of The Lord"[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]...[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Roman Catholic Encyclopedia:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The Catholic Encyclopedia, an international work of reference on the Constitution, Doctrine, Disciple, and History of the Catholic Church, Edited by Charles G. Herbermann, Ph.D., LL.D. Edward A. Pace, Ph. D., D.D. Conde B. Pallen, PhD., LL.D. Thomas J. Shahan, D.D. John J. Wynne, S.J. Assisted by Numerous Collaborators ["... fully 500 ... and 150 editorial assistants" - To the Knights of Columbus and their Friends], Fifteen Volumes and Index, Volume 1 [Aachen - Assize], Special Edition under the Auspices of the Knight of Columbus Catholic Truth Committee; New York, The Encyclopedia Press, Inc., Nihil Obstat, November 1, 1907; Remy Lafort, S.T.D. Censor; Imprimatur [Maltese Cross] John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York; Copyright, 1907 by Robert Appleton Company; Copyright, 1913 by the Encyclopedia Press, Inc.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] "... [Page 479] We have had occasion to mention the Septuagint version more than once, and it may not be amiss to indicate a few passages where it is our only source of information regarding the angels. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The best known passage is Isaiah 9:6, where the Septuagint gives the name of the Messias, as "the Angel of great Counsel"[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. … [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]... But while we read of "the Angels of God" meeting Jacob (Gen., XXXII, 1) we at other times read of one who is termed "the Angel of God" par excellence, e.g. Gen., XXXI, 11. ... the story in Gen., XIII, develops, the speaker is always "the Lord". Thus in the account of the Angel of the Lord who visited Gideon (Judges, VI), the visitor is alternately spoken of as "the Angel of the Lord" and as "the Lord". Similarly, in Judges, XIII, the Angel of the Lord appears, and both Manue and his wife exclaim: "We shall certainly die because we have seen God." ... in the story of the Exodus it is the Lord who goes before them in the pillar of a cloud (Exod., XIII, 21), and the Septuagint makes no change (cf. also Num., XIV, 14, and Neh., IX, 7-20). ... When we turn to Exod., XXXIII, where God is angry with His people for worshipping the golden calf, it is hard not to feel that it is God Himself who has hitherto been their guide, but who now refuses to accompany them any longer. … [Page 479-480][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] ... [Page 480] [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The Massoretic text as well as the Vulgate of Exodus 3 and 19-20 clearly represent the Supreme Being as appearing to Moses in the bush and on Mount Sinai[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; ... The person of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"the angel of the Lord"[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] finds a counterpart in the personification of Wisdom in the Sapiential books and in [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]at least one passage (Zechariah 3:1) it seems to stand for that "Son of Man" whom Daniel (7:13) saw brought before "the Ancient of Days".[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] Zacharias says: "And the Lord showed me Jesus the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan stood on His right hand to be His adversary". [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Tertullian[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] regards many of these passages as preludes to the Incarnation[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; as [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the Word of God adumbrating the sublime character in which He is one day to reveal Himself to men (cf. Against Praxeas 16; Against Marcion 2.27, 3.9, 1.10, 1.21-22)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. ... [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The earlier Fathers, going by the letter of the text, maintained that it was actually God Himself who appeared[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. He who appeared was called God and acted as God. It was not unnatural then [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]for [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Tertullian[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], as we have already seen, to regard such manifestations in the light of preludes to the Incarnation, and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]most of the Eastern Fathers[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] followed the same line of thought[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. It was [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]held as recently as 1851 by Vandenbroeck, "Dissertatio Theologica de Theophaniis sub Veteri Testamento" (Louvain)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. ...[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] ... [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]St. Augustine[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] (Sermo vii, de Scripturis, P.G. V) when treating of the burning bush (Exodus 3) says: "... . . . [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Some[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] maintain that he is called both the Lord and the angel of the Lord because he was Christ, indeed the prophet (Isaiah 9:6, Septuagint Version) clearly styles Christ the 'Angel of great Counsel.'"[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The saint proceeds to show that such a view is tenable[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] though we must be careful not to fall into Arianism in stating it. ...[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] ... As an instance of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]how convinced some of the Fathers were in holding[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] ..., we may [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]note [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Theodoret's words[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] (In Exod.): "The whole passage (Exodus 3) shows that it was God who appeared to him. But (Moses) called Him an angel in order to let us know that it was not God the Father whom he saw — for whose angel could the Father be? — but the Only-begotten Son, the Angel of great Counsel" (cf. Eusebius, Church History I.2.7; St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies 3:6)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. ..."[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif][Roman Catholic Online Encyclopedia; Section "A", subsection "Angels", part "The term "angel" in the Septuagint"][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Angels[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Augustine of Hippo (AD 13 November 354 – AD 28 August 430) was an early Christian theologian, philosopher and bishop of Hippo Regius (present-day Annaba, Algeria) located in the Roman province of Africa.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][Latin] Aurelii augustini de civitate dei primi libri incipiunt rubrice. by N. Jensen. 1475.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [page 461] Liber XVIII ... De triu, prophetaru vaticinio id est aggei zacharie et malachie. c. XXXV. ...[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]... Sacrificium autem iudeorum quibus dictum est: non est mihi voluntas in vobis: nec accipiam de manibus vestris munus: cessasse negare non possunt: quid adhuc expectant alium christum: quum hoc quod prophetatum legunt et impletum vident: impleri non potuerit nisi per ipsum? Dicit enim paulo post de ipso ex persona dei. Testamentum meum erat cum eo vitae et pacis: et dedi ei ut timore timeret me: et a facie nominis mei revereretur. Lex veritatis erat in ore ipsius: in pace dirigens ambulavit mecum: et multos convertit ab iniquitate: quoniam labia sacerdotis custodient scientiam: et legem inquirent ex ore eius quoniam angelus Domini omnipotentis est. Nec mirandum est quia omnipotentis dei angelus dictus est christus iesus. Sicut enim servus propter formam servi in qua venit ad homines: sic et angelus propter euangelium quod nuntiavit hominibus. Nam si graece ista interpretemur: et euangelium bona nuntiatio est et angelus nuntius. De ipso quippe iterum dicit. [Page 461-462][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ecce mittam angelum meum: et prospiciet viam ante faciem meam: et subito veniet in templum suum Dominus quem vos quaeritis: et angelus testameti quem vos vultis: ecce venit dicit dominus omnipotens: et quis sustinebit diem introitus eius: aut quis resistet in adspectu eius: hoc loso et primum et secundum christi praenuntiavit adventum. Primum scilicet de quo ait. Et subito veniet in templum suum id est in carnem suam: de qua dixit in euangelio: solvite templum hoc et in triduo resuscitabo illud. Secundum vero ubi ait. Ecce venit dicit dominus omnipotens: et quis sustinebit diem introitus eius: aut quis resistet in adspectu eius: Quod autem dicit dominus quem vos quaeritis: et angelus testameti quem vos vultis: significavit utique etiam iudaeos secundum scripturas quas legunt christum quaerere et velle. Sed multi eorum quem quaesierunt et voluerunt venisse non agnoverunt, excoecati in cordibus suis praecedentibus meritis suis. Quod sane hic nominat testamentum vel supra ubi ait testamentum meum erat cum eo: vel hic ubi eum dixit angelum testamenti: novum procul dubio testamentum debemus accipere: ubi sempiterna non vetus ubi temporalia sunt promissa: ..." [Page 461-462; also combined/corrected with Page 204 in Google Books edition. 1825] - https://archive.org/stream/augustinidecivitatedei00jensuoft#page/n461/mode/1up[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]S. Aurelii Augustini Hipponensis episcopi De civitate Dei libri XXII. - Saint Augustine (Bishop of Hippo.) - Google Books[/FONT]
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[English] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The City of God; Book XVIII; Chapter 35. - Of the Prophecy of the Three Prophets, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... their sacrifice has ceased, why do they still look for another Christ, when they read this in the prophecy, and see it fulfilled, which could not be fulfilled except through Him? And a little after he says of Him, in the person of God, "My covenant was with Him of life and peace: and I gave to Him that He might fear me with fear, and be afraid before my name. The law of truth was in His mouth: directing in peace He has walked with me, and has turned away many from iniquity. For the Priest's lips shall keep knowledge, and they shall seek the law at His mouth: for He is the Angel of the Lord Almighty." Malachi 2:5-7 Nor is it to be wondered at that Christ Jesus is called the Angel of the Almighty God. For just as He is called a servant on account of the form of a servant in which He came to men, so He is called an angel on account of the evangel which He proclaimed to men. For if we interpret these Greek words, evangel is "good news," and angel is "messenger." Again he says of Him, "Behold I will send mine angel, and He will look out the way before my face: and the Lord, whom you seek, shall suddenly come into His temple, even the Angel of the testament, whom you desire. Behold, He comes, says the Lord Almighty, and who shall abide the day of His entry, or who shall stand at His appearing?" But what he says, "The Lord whom you seek, and the Angel of the testament whom you desire," just means that even the Jews, according to the Scriptures which they read, shall seek and desire Christ. But many of them did not acknowledge that He whom they sought and desired had come, being blinded in their hearts, which were preoccupied with their own merits. Now what he here calls the testament, either above, where he says, "My testament had been with Him," or here, where he has called Him the Angel of the testament, we ought, beyond a doubt, to take to be the new testament, in which the things promised are eternal, and not the old,in which they are only temporal. ..." - CHURCH FATHERS: City of God, Book XVIII (St. Augustine)[/FONT]​

 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Irenaeus[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] (AD early 2nd century – c. AD 202), was a Bishop of Lugdunum in Gaul, then a part of the Roman Empire (now Lyon, France) and considered by some to be an early church father, as well as being an apologist and theologian.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Irenaeus, bishop of Lyons: Against Heresies book III, chapter 6:[/FONT]
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[Latin] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Sancti Irenaei, Episcopi Lugdunensis, Libros quinque adversus haereses, textu Graeco in locis nonnullis locupletato, versione Latina cum codicibus claramontano ac arundeliano denuo collata, praemissa de placitis gnosticorum prolusione, fragmento necnon Graece, Syriace, Armeniace, commentatione perpetua et indicibus variis. W. Wigan Harvey, S.T.B. collegii regalis olim soctus. Tom. II. Cantabrigiae, Typis Academicis. 1857.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 21] Vere igitur cum Pater sit Dominus, et Filius vere sit Dominus, merito Spiritus sanctus Domini appellatione signavit eos. Et iterum in eversione Sodomitarum Scriptura ait: Et pluit Dominus super Sodomam et Gomorrham ignem et sulfur a Domino de coelo. Filium enim hic significat, qui et Abrahae collocutus sit, a Patre acce[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]e potestatem judicandi Sodomitas propter iniquitatem eorum. ..." [Page 21] -[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] https://archive.org/stream/sanctiirenaeiep00harvgoog#page/n31/mode/1up[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 145] Since, therefore, the Father is truly Lord, and the Son truly Lord, the Holy Spirit has fitly designated them by the title of Lord. And again, referring to the destruction of the Sodomites, the Scripture says, "Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Genesis 19:24 For it here points out that the Son, who had also been talking with Abraham, had received power to judge the Sodomites for their [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]wickedness. ..." [Page 145] - [/FONT]https://archive.org/stream/SaintIre... Against Heresies Complete#page/n145/mode/1up

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103306.htm[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... 2. Nemo igitur alius, quemadmodum praedixi, Deus nominatur, aut Dominue appellatur, nisi qui est omnium Deus et Dominus, qui et Moysi dixit: Ego sum, qui sum. Et sic dices filiis Israel: Qui est, misit me ad vos: et hujus Filius Jesus Christus Dominus noster, qui filios Dei facit credentes in nomen suum. Et iterum, loquente Filio ad Moysen: Descendi, inquit, [Page 22-23] eripere populum hunc. Ipse est enim qui descendit, et ascendit propter salutem hominum. ..." [Page 22-23] - [/FONT]https://archive.org/stream/sanctiirenaeiep00harvgoog#page/n32/mode/1up
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “... [Page 145] 2. Wherefore, as I have already stated, no other is named as God, or is called Lord, except Him who is God and Lord of all, who also said to Moses, "I AM THAT I AM. And thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: He who is, hath sent me unto you;" and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]His Son Jesus Christ our Lord[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], who makes those that believe in His name the sons of God. And again, when the [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Son speaks to Moses[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], He says, "I am come down to deliver this people." For it is He who descended and ascended for the salvation of men. ...” [Page 145] - [/FONT]https://archive.org/stream/SaintIre... Against Heresies Complete#page/n145/mode/1up

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]CHURCH FATHERS: Against Heresies, III.6 (St. Irenaeus)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Irenaeus, bishop of Lyons: Against Heresies [English] Book IV, Chapter X [same as Latin: Book IV, Chapter XX]:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 172] Si enim crederetis Moysi, crederetis et mihi: de me enim ille scripsit; scilicet quod inseminatus est ubique in Scripturis ejus Filius Dei; aliquando quidem cum Abraham loquens, cum eodem comesurus: aliquando cum Noe, dans ei mensuras: aliquando [Page 172-173] autem quaerens Adam: aliquando autem Sodomitis inducens judicium: et rursus cum videtur, et in viam dirigit Jacob: et de rubo loquitur cum Moyse. Et non est numerum dicere in quibus a Moyse ostenditur Filius Dei ..." [Page 172-173] - https://archive.org/stream/sanctiirenaeiep00harvgoog#page/n182/mode/1up[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “... [page 213] 1. ... "For if ye had believed Moses, ye would also have believed Me; for he wrote of Me;" [saying this,] no doubt, because [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the Son of God is implanted everywhere throughout his writings: at one time, indeed, speaking with Abraham, when about to eat with him[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; at [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]another time with Noah[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], giving to him the dimensions [of the ark]; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]at another; inquiring after Adam[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; at [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]another, bringing down judgment upon the Sodomites;[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] and [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]again, when He becomes visible, and directs Jacob on his journey, and speaks with Moses from the bush[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. And it would be endless to recount [the occasions] upon which the Son of God is shown forth by Moses. ...” [Page 213] - [/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] CHURCH FATHERS: Against Heresies, IV.10 (St. Irenaeus)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Book V, Chapter V, Section II[/FONT] [Latin]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 342] Hic est autem Filius Dei, quemadmodum Scriptura ait dixisse Nabuchodonozor regem: Nonne tres viros misimus in caminum? et ecce ego video quatuor deambulantes in medio ignis, et quartus similis est Filio Dei. ..." [Page 342] - https://archive.org/stream/sanctiirenaeiep00harvgoog#page/n342/mode/1up[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Book V, Chapter V, Section II[/FONT] [English]
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“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]... [Page 287] Now this is the Son of God, as the Scripture represents Nebuchadnezzar the king as having said, Did not we cast three men bound into the furnace? And, lo, I do see four walking in the midst of the fire, and the fourth is like the Son of God. ..." [Page 287] - https://archive.org/stream/SaintIre... Against Heresies Complete#page/n287/mode/1up[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103505.htm[/FONT]​

 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Titus Flavius Clemens (Greek: Κλήμης ὁ Ἀλεξανδρεύς; c. 150 – c. 215), known as Clement of Alexandria to distinguish him from the earlier Clement of Rome, was a Christian theologian who taught at the Catechetical School of Alexandria.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Clementis Alexandrini Opera, ex Recensione Gulielmi Dindorfii; Vol. I. Protrepticus. Paedagogus. Oronii, e typographeo clarendoniano. 1869.

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 144] Τὸν κύριον αὐτὸν ὀνομάζει παιδίον, τοûτο διὰ Ἡσαΐου θεσπίζον τὸ πνεûμα "ἰδοὺ παιδίον ἐγεννήθη ἡμîν, υἱὸς καὶ ἐδόθη ἡμîν, οὗ ἡ ἀρχὴ ἐπὶ τοû ὤμου αὐτοû, καὶ ἐκλήθη τὸ ὄnoma αὐτοû μεγάλης βουλῆς ἄγγελος." ..." [Page 144] - https://archive.org/stream/clementis...e/144/mode/1up[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][English] Ante-Nicene Christian Library, A Collection of all the works of the fathers of the Christian Church, prior to the Council of Nicea, edited by the Rev. Alexander Roberts, D.D., author of 'Discussions on the Gospels," etc.; and James Donaldson, LL.D., author of 'A critical history of Christian literature and doctrine, from the death of the Apostles to the Nicene Council,' and rector of the Royal High School, Edinburgh. The First Four Volumes: -- The Apostolic Fathers, in One Volume; Justin Martyr and Athenagoras, in One Volume; Tatian, Theophilus, and the Clementine Recognitions, in One Volume; and Clement of Alexandria, Volume First, are now ready.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The Writings Of Clement Of Alexandria, The Instructor, Book I, Chapter V; All Who Walk According To Truth Are Children of God.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 130] The Spirit calls the Lord Himself a child, thus prophesying by Esaias: "Lo, to us a child has been born, to us a son has been given, on whose own shoulder the government shall be; and His name has been called the Angel of great Counsel." ..." [Page 130 ] - https://archive.org/stream/writingso...e/130/mode/1up[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02091.htm[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Justin Martyr, also known as Saint Justin (c. AD 100 – AD 165), was an early Christian apologist, and is regarded as the foremost interpreter of the theory of the Logos in the 2nd century.[2] He was martyred, alongside some of his students, and is considered a saint by the Roman Catholic Church,[3] the Anglican Church,[4] and the Eastern Orthodox Church.[5] - Wikipedia[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Chapter LXIII.[63] - How God Appeared to Moses.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Justinus' des Philosphen und Martyrers Apologien von P. Joannes Maria Pfattisch O.S.B. Zweite Auflage von P. Justus Schnurrer O.S.B. Oberstudiendirektor des Gymnasiums in Ettal; Text. Munster i. W. Verlag der Aschendorffschen Verlagsbuchhandlung. 1933.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 97; internally page 69] 62. καὶ τὸ λουτρὸν δὴ τοῦτο ἁκούσαντες οἱ δαίμονες διὰ τοῦ προφήτου κεκηρυγμένον ἐνήργησαν καὶ ῥαντίζειν ἑαυτοὺς τοὺς εἰς τὰ ἱερὰ αὐτῶν ἐπιβαίνοντας καὶ προσιέναι αὐτοῖς μέλλοντας, λοιβὰς καὶ κνίσας ἀποτελοῦντας· τέλεον δὲ καὶ λούεσθαι ἐπιόντας πρὶν ἐλθεῖν ἐπὶ τὰ ιερά, ἔνθα ἵδρυνται, ἐνεργοῦσι. καὶ γὰρ τὸ ὑπολύεσθαι ἐπιβαίνοντας τοῖς ἱεροῖς καὶ τοῖς αὐτοῖς τοὺς θρησκεύοντας κελεύεσθαι ὑπὸ τῶν ἱερατευόντων ἐκ τῶν συμβάντων Μωσεῖ τῷ εἰρημένῳ προφήτῃ μαθόντες οἱ δαίμονες ἐμιμήσαντο. κατ᾿ ἐκεῖνο γὰρ τοῦ καιροῦ, ὅτε Μωσῆς ἐκελεύσθη κατελθὼν εἰς Αἴγυπτον ἐξαγαγεῖν τὸν ἐκεῖ λαὸν τῶν Ἰσραηλιτῶν, ποιμαίνοντος αὐτοῦ ἐν τῇ Ἀῤῥαβικῇ γῇ πρόβατα τοῦ πρὸς μητρὸς θείου, ἐν ἰδέᾳ πυρὸς ἐκ βάτου προσωμίλησεν αὐτῷ ὁ ἡμέτερος Χρήστὸς καὶ εἶπεν· "Ὑπό- [Page 97-98; internally Page 69-70] λυσαι τὰ ὑποδήματά σου καὶ προσελθὼν ἄκουσον." ὁ δὲ ὑπολυσάμενος καὶ προσελθὼν ἀκήκοε κατελθεῖν εἰς Αἴγυπτον καὶ ἐξαγάγεῖν τὸν ἐκεῖ λαὸν τῶν Ἰσραηλιτῶν καὶ δύναμιν ἰσχυρὰν ἔλαβε παρὰ τοῦ λαλήσαντος αὐτῷ ἐν ἰδέᾳ πυρὸς Χρἰστοῦ καὶ κατελθὼν ἐξήγαγε τὸν λαὸν ποιήσας μεγάλα καὶ θαυμάσια, ἃ εἰ βούλεσθε μαθεῖν, ἐκ τῶν συγγραμμάτων ἐκείνου ἀκριβῶς μαθήσεσθε.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]63. Ἰουδαῖοι δὲ πάντες καὶ νῦν διδάσκουσι τὸν ἀνωνόμαστον θεὸν λελαληκέναι τῷ Μωσεῖ. ὅθεν τὸ προφητικὸν πνεῦμα διὰ Ἡσαΐου τοῦ προμεμηνυμένου προφήτου ἐλέγχον αὐτούς, ὡς προεγράψαμεν, εἶπεν· "Ἔγνω βοῦς τὸν κτησάμενον καὶ ὄνος τὴν φάτνην τοῦ κυρίου αὐτοῦ, Ἰσραὴλ δέ με οὐκ ἔγνω καὶ ὁ λαός με οὐ συνῆκε." καὶ Ἰησοῦς δὲ ὁ Χριστός ὄτι οὐκ ἔγνωσαν Ἰουδαῖοι τί πατὴρ καὶ τί υἱός, ὁμοίως ἐλέγχων αῦτοὺς καὶ αὺτὸς εἶπεν· "Οὐδεὶς ἔγνω τὸν πατέρα εἰ μὴ ὁ υἱὸς οὐδὲ τὸν υἱὸν εἰ μὴ ὁ πατὴρ καὶ οἷς ἂν ἀποκαλύψῃ ὁ υἱός." ὁ λόγος δὲ τοῦ θεοῦ ἐστιν ὁ υἱός αὐτοῦ, ὡς προέφημεν. καὶ ἄγγελος δὲ καλεῖται καὶ ἀπόστολος· αὐτὸς γὰρ ἀπαγγέλλει ὅσα δεῖ γνωσθῆναι, καὶ ἀποστέλλεται, μηνύσων, ὅσα ἀγγέλλεται, ὡς καὶ αὐτὸς ὁ κύρίος ἡμῶν εἶπεν· "Ὁ ἐμοῦ ἀκούων ἀκούει τοῦ ἀποστείλαντός με." καὶ ἐκ τῶν τοῦ Μωσέως δὲ συγγραμμάτων φανερὸν τοῦτο γενήσεται. Λέλεκται δὲ ἐν αὐτοῖς οὕτως· "καὶ ἐλάλησε Μωσεῖ ἄγ- [Page 98-99; internally Page 70-71] γελος θεοῦ ἐν φλογί πυρὸς ἐκ τῆς βάτου καὶ εἶπεν· Ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν, θεός Ἀβραάμ, θεός Ἰσαάκ, θεός Ἰακώβ, ὁ θεός τῶν πατέρων σου. Κάτελθε εἰς Αἴγυπτον καὶ ἐξάγαγε τὸν λαόν μου." Τὰ δ' ἐπόμενα ἐξ ἐκείνων βουλόμενοι μαθεῖν δύνασθε· οὐ γὰρ δυνατὸν ἐν τούτοις ἀναγράψαι πάντα. ἀλλ' εἰς ἀπόδειξιν γεγόνάσιν οἵδε οἱ λόγοι, ὅτι υἱὸς θεοῦ καὶ ἀπόστολος Ἰησοῦς ὁ Χριστός ἐστι, πρότερον λόγος ὢν καὶ ἐν ἱδέᾳ πυρὸς ποτὲ φανείς, ποτὲ δὲ καὶ ἐν εἰκόνι ἀσωμάτων· νῦν δὲ διὰ θελήματος θεοῦ ὑπὲρ τοῦ ἀνθρωπείου γένους ἄνθρωπος γενόμενος ὑπέμεινε καὶ παθεῖν, ὅσα αὐτὸν ἐνήργησαν οἱ δαίμονες διατεθῆναι ὑπὸ τῶν ἀνοήτων Ἰουδαίων. Οἵτινες ἔχοντες ῥητῶς εἰρημένων ἐν τοῖς Μωσέως συντάγμασι· "καὶ ἐλάλησεν ἄγγελος τοῦ θεοῦ τῷ Μωσεῖ ἐν πυρί φλογὸς ἐν βάτῳ καὶ εἶπεν· Ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν, ὁ θεὸς Ἀβραὰμ καὶ ὁ θεὸς Ἰσαὰκ καὶ ὁ θεός Ἰακώβ," τὸν τῶν ὅλων πατέρα καὶ δημιουργον τὸν ταῦτα εἰπόντα λέγουσιν εἶναι. ὅθεν καὶ τὸ προφητικὸν πνεῦμα ἐλέγχον αὐτοὺς εἶπεν. "Ἰσραὴλ δέ με οὐκ ἔγνω καὶ ὁ λαός με οὐ συνῆχε." καὶ πάλιν ὁ Ἰησοῦς, ὡς ἐδηλώσαμεν, παρ' αὐτοῖς ὢν εἶπεν· "Οὐδεὶς ἔγνω τὸν πατέρα εἰ μὴ ὁ υἱὸς οὐδὲ τὸν υἱὸν εἰ μὴ ὁ πατὴρ καὶ οἷς ἂν ὁ υἱὸς ἀποκαλύψῃ." Ἰουδαῖοι οὖν ἡγησάμενοι ἀεὶ τὸν πατέρα τῶν ὅλων λελαληκέναι τῷ Μωσεῖ, τοῦ λαλήσαντος αὐτῷ ὄντος υἱοῦ τοῦ θεοῦ, ὃς καὶ ἄγγελος καὶ ἀπόστολος κέκληται, δικαὶως ἐλέγχονται καὶ διὰ τοῦ προφητικοῦ πνεύματος καὶ δἰ [Page 99-100; internally Page 71-72] αὐτοῦ τοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὡς οὔτε τὸν πατέρα οὔτε τὸν υἱὸν ἔγνωσαν. Οἱ γὰρ τὸν υἱὸν πατέρα φάσκοντες εἶναι ἐλέγχονται μήτε τὸν πατέρα ἐπιστάμενοι, μηθ' ὅτι ἐστὶν υἱὸς τῷ πατρί τῶν ὅλων γινώσκοντες· ὃς λόγος καὶ πρωτότοκος ὢν τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ θεός ὑπάρχει. καὶ πρότερον διὰ τῆς τοῦ πυρός μορφῆς καὶ εἰκόνος ἀσωμάτου τῷ Μωσεῖ καὶ τοῖς ἑτέροις προφήταις ἐφάνη· ..." [Page 97-100; internally Page 69-72] - [/FONT]https://archive.org/stream/MN41580ucmf_1#page/n97/mode/1up
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The First Apology of Justin Martyr addressed to the Emperor Antoninus Pius, prefaced by some account of the writings and opinions of Justin Martyr, by John Kaye, formerly Lord Bishop of Lincoln. Edinburgh, John Grant. 1912.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 50; Introduction by John Kaye] With reference to the part borne by him in conducting the gospel economy, He is styled, as we have already seen, the Minister, 1 and the Angel or Messenger of God. 2 …[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]... [Page 50, notation 2, by John Kaye] 2 καὶ ἄγγελος καλεῖται καὶ ἀπόστολος· αὐτὸς γὰρ ἀπαγγέλλει ὅσα δεῖ γνωσθῆναι, καὶ ἀποστέλλεται μηνύσων ὅσα ἀγγέλλεται. Apol. I. p. 95D (79). See p. 60 A (15). Dial. pp. 275 C, 276 D, 283 C, D. μεγάλης βουλῆς ἄγγελον, pp. 301 C, 321 A, 355 B, [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]356 C. In p. 251 B, we find an enumeration of the names given to Christ in Scripture. Βασιλεὺς, ἱερεὺς, θεὸς, κύριος, ἄγγελος, ἄνθρωπος, ἀρχίστράτηγος, λίθος, παιδίον. See also pp. 313 C, 327 C, 355 B. αἰώνιος ἡμῖν νόμος καὶ τελευταῖος ὁ χριστὸς ἐδόθη, pp. 228 B, 242 A, 261 C, [/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 77] LXXXI ... [Page 77-78] ... And whereas their adorers are commanded by priests to put off their shoes before they presume to enter the temples [Page 78-79] to worship these demons, 1 this is evidently done to mimic what they found commanded the prophet Moses; for while Moses was feeding the sheep of his father-in-law in Arabia, he was commanded to go down into Egypt, and to bring out the people of Israel; and our Christ talked with him out of the bush in the appearance of fire, and said, "Put off thy shoes, and come and hear" (Ex. III. 5). And accordingly he put off his shoes, and went and heard that he was to go down into Egypt, and conduct the Israelites from thence; and being appointed with prodigious power by Christ Who conversed with him out of the bush of fire, he went and brought the people out, doing great and astonishing actions; the particulars of which, if you have a mind to it, you may see in his own writings.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]LXXXII. But all the modern Jews teach that it was the unnameable God who thus conversed with Moses, upon which account the prophetic Spirit, by the mouth of the prophet Isaiah, reprehends them in these words already quoted, "The ox knoweth the owner, and the ass his master's crib; but Israel doth not know me, My people hath not understood me" (Isa. I. 3). And because the Jews were ignorant what the Father and the Son were, Jesus Christ Himself thus corrects them, "No man knoweth the Father but the Son, nor the Son, but them to whom the Son will reveal Him" (Matt. XI. 27). But as I have said, the Logos of God is His Son, and is also called Angel and Apostle; for He Himself did deliver; [Page 79-80] as an angel or messenger, 1 what the world was to know, and acted as an apostle, as one sent to interpret the divine will, as our Lord Himself has testified, "He that heareth me, heareth Him that sent me" (Matt. X. 40). The same is also evident from the Mosaic writings, where we have these words, "And the angel of God spake unto Moses in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush, and said, I Am that I Am, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of your fathers; go down into Egypt, and bring up My people from thence" (Ex. III. 2, 14, 15). If you are desirous of knowing what follows, I must refer you to the Scriptures themselves, for it is not possible to transcribe all into a discourse of this nature.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]LXXXIII. But these words were spoken to demonstrate the Son of God and Apostle to be our Jesus Christ, who is the pre-existing Logos; Who appeared sometimes in the form of fire, sometimes in the likeness of angels, and in these last days was made man by the will of God for the salvation of mankind, and was contented to suffer what the devils could inflict upon him by the infatuated Jews; who, notwithstanding they have these express words in the writings of Moses, "And the angel of the Lord spake with Moses in a flame of fire out of the bush, and said, I Am that I Am, the Self-existent, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob;" notwithstanding this, I say, they affirm these words to be spoken by God the Father and Maker of all things. For which oversight the prophetic Spirit thus charges them, "Israel hath not known me, My people have not understood me;" and as I have said, Jesus taxed them again for the same thing while He was amongst them, "No man hath known the [Page 80-81] [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][[Page 80 notation 1, by John Kaye] 1 Christ is called the Angel (Exod. III. 2), but nowhere the Apostle (as Dr. Grabe observes), but in the Epistle to the Hebrews, III. I, from whence he justly concludes that this Epistle was known to, and approved by, Justin Martyr. [end Page 80 notation 1, by John Kaye]] [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][Page 81] Father but the Son, nor the Son, but them to Whom the Son will reveal Him." The Jews therefore, for maintaining that it was the Father of the universe Who had the conference with Moses, when it was the very Son of God Who had it, and Who is styled both Angel and Apostle, are justly accused by the prophetic Spirit, and Christ Himself, for knowing neither the Father nor the Son; for they who affirm the Son to be the Father are guilty of not knowing the Father, and likewise of being ignorant that the Father of the universe has a Son, Who being the Logos and First-begotten of God is God. 1 And He it is Who heretofore appeared to Moses and the rest of the prophets, sometimes in fire and sometimes in the form of angels ..." [Pages 77-81] - [/FONT]https://archive.org/stream/firstapologyofju00justuoft#page/77/mode/1up
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ANF01. The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus - Christian Classics Ethereal Library[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]S. Justini, Philosophi et Martyris cum Tryphone Judaeo Dialogus. Pars Altera, colloquium Secundi Diei Continens. edited, with a corrected text and English Introduction and Notes, by the Rev. W. Trollope, M.A. Pembroke College, Cambridge. Cambridge: printed by and for J. Hall, opposite the Pitt Press; and G. Bell, 186, Fleet Street, London. 1847.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... CXIII. [Page 99; internally Page 88] ... Ὅτι γάρ Ἰησοῦς ἦν ὁ Μωσεῖ καὶ τῷ Ἀβραὰμ καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις ἁπλῶς πατριάρχαις φανεὶς καὶ ὁμιλήσας, τῷ τοῦ πατρὸς θελήματι ὑπηρετῶν, ἀπέδειξα· ὃς ..." [Page 99; internally Page 88] - [/FONT]https://archive.org/stream/sjustinip...e/n99/mode/1up
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ante-Nicene Christian Library: Translations of the Writings of the Fathers down to A.D. 325. Edited by the Rev. Alexander Roberts, D.D., and James Donaldson, LL.D. Vol. II. Justin Martyr And Athenagoras. Edinburgh: T. And T. Clark, 38, George Street. 1847.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]" ... [Page 240] Chap. CXIII. -- Joshua was a figure of Christ. … [Page 241] For I have proved that it was Jesus who appeared to and conversed with Moses, and Abraham, and all the other patriarchs without exception, ministering to the will of the Father ..." [Page 241] - [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://books.google.com/books?id=mYBPAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Furthermore, Justin Martyr in Dialogue with Trypho also proves that one of the three Heavenly beings that came down to speak with Abraham & Sarah, is both “Lord”, “God” and “who is also called an Angel” [being the Son, the messenger of the Father],[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“... one of those three is God, and is called Angel, because, as I already said, He brings messages to those to whom God the Maker of all things wishes [messages to be brought], then in regard to Him who appeared to Abraham on earth in human form in like manner as the two angels who came with Him, and who was God even before the creation of the world ...” and also says,[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“... He is the Lord who received commission from the Lord who [remains] in the heavens, i.e., the Maker of all things, to inflict upon Sodom and Gomorrha the [judgments] which the Scripture describes in these terms: 'The Lord rained down upon Sodom and Gomorrha sulphur and fire from the Lord out of heaven.'” in Chapter 56 - CHURCH FATHERS: Dialogue with Trypho, Chapters 55-68 (Justin Martyr)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Again he says,[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“... It is again written by Moses, my brethren, that He who is called God and appeared to the patriarchs is called both Angel and Lord, in order that from this you may understand Him to be minister to the Father of all things ...” in Chapter 58 - CHURCH FATHERS: Dialogue with Trypho, Chapters 55-68 (Justin Martyr)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Again he says,[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“Permit me, further, to show you from the book of Exodus how this same One, who is both Angel, and God, and Lord, and man, and who appeared in human form to Abraham and Isaac, appeared in a flame of fire from the bush, and conversed with Moses. ...” in Chapter 59 - CHURCH FATHERS: Dialogue with Trypho, Chapters 55-68 (Justin Martyr)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Again he says,[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“... now the Son, again Wisdom, again an Angel, then God, and then Lord and Logos; and on another occasion He calls Himself Captain, when He appeared in human form to Joshua the son of Nave (Nun). For He can be called by all those names, since He ministers to the Father's will …" in Chapter 61 - CHURCH FATHERS: Dialogue with Trypho, Chapters 55-68 (Justin Martyr)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Again he says,[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“Chapter 126. The various names of Christ according to both natures. It is shown that He is God, and appeared to the patriarchs.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]But if you knew, Trypho, who He is that is called at one time the Angel of great counsel, and a Man by Ezekiel, and like the Son of man by Daniel, and a Child by Isaiah, and Christ and God to be worshipped by David, and Christ and a Stone by many, and Wisdom by Solomon, and Joseph and Judah and a Star by Moses, and the East by Zechariah, and the Suffering One and Jacob and Israel by Isaiah again, and a Rod, and Flower, and Corner-Stone, and Son of God, you would not have blasphemed Him who has now come, and been born, and suffered, and ascended to heaven; who shall also come again, and then your twelve tribes shall mourn. For if you had understood what has been written by the prophets, you would not have denied that He was God, Son of the only, unbegotten, unutterable God. For Moses says somewhere in Exodus the following: 'The Lord spoke to Moses, and said to him, I am the Lord, and I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, being their God; and my name I revealed not to them, and I established my covenant with them.' And thus again he says, 'A man wrestled with Jacob,' and asserts it was God; narrating that Jacob said, 'I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.' And it is recorded that he called the place where He wrestled with him, appeared to and blessed him, the Face of God (Peniel). And Moses says that God appeared also to Abraham near the oak in Mamre, when he was sitting at the door of his tent at mid-day. Then he goes on to say: 'And he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, three men stood before him; and when he saw them, he ran to meet them.' Genesis 18:2 After a little, one of them promises a son to Abraham: 'Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I of a surety bear a child, and I am old? Is anything impossible with God? At the time appointed I will return, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son. And they went away from Abraham.' Again he speaks of them thus: 'And the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom.' Genesis 18:16 Then to Abraham He who was and is again speaks: 'I will not hide from Abraham, my servant, what I intend to do.' Genesis 18:17[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And what follows in the writings of Moses I quoted and explained:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]From which I have demonstrated that He who is described as God appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, and the other patriarchs, was appointed under the authority of the Father and Lord, and ministers to His will.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Then I went on to say what I had not said before:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And so, when the people desired to eat flesh, and Moses had lost faith in Him, who also there is called the Angel, and who promised that God would give them to satiety, He who is both God and the Angel, sent by the Father, is described as saying and doing these things. For thus the Scripture says: 'And the Lord said to Moses, Will the Lord's hand not be sufficient? You shall know now whether my word shall conceal you or not.' Numbers 11:23 And again, in other words, it thus says: 'But the Lord spoke unto me, You shall not go over this Jordan: the Lord your God, who goes before your face, He shall cut off the nations.'..." - in Chapter 126 - CHURCH FATHERS: Dialogue with Trypho, Chapters 125-142 (Justin Martyr)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Again he says,[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“... Christ, but [saw] Him who was according to His will His Son, being God, and the Angel because He ministered to His will; whom also it pleased Him to be born man by the Virgin; who also was fire when He conversed with Moses from the bush. ...” in Chapter 127 - CHURCH FATHERS: Dialogue with Trypho, Chapters 125-142 (Justin Martyr)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Again he says,[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] “... And that Christ being Lord, and God the Son of God, and appearing formerly in power as Man, and Angel, and in the glory of fire as at the bush, so also was manifested at the judgment executed on Sodom, has been demonstrated fully by what has been said. ... sent from the Father of all which appeared to Moses, or to Abraham, or to Jacob, is called an Angel because He came to men (for by Him the commands of the Father have been proclaimed to men) ... And that this power which the prophetic word calls God, as has been also amply demonstrated, and Angel ...” in Chapter 129 - CHURCH FATHERS: Dialogue with Trypho, Chapters 125-142 (Justin Martyr)[/FONT]​

 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Eusebius (AD 260/265 – AD 339/340); also called Eusebius of Caesarea and Eusebius Pamphili, was a Roman historian, of Greek descent, exegete and Christian polemicist. He became the Bishop of Early centers of Caesarea about the year 314 A.D - Wikipedia[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 49; internally Page 15] Chapter II. Summary view of the pre-existence and Divinity of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ ... the prince and leader of the spiritual and immortal host of heaven, the angel of the mighty council, the agent to execute the Father's secret will, the maker of all things with the Father ... the Lord and God and King of all created things ... [Page 49; internally Page 15] - [/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 50; internally Page 16] The Lord God, therefore, appeared as a common man to Abraham, whilst sitting at the oak of Mamre. And he, immediately falling down, although he plainly saw a man with his eyes, nevertheless worshipped him as God, and entreated him as Lord. He confesses, too, that he is not ignorant who he is in the words, "Lord, the judge of all the earth, wilt not thou judge righteously?" ..." [Page 50; internally Page 16] - https://archive.org/stream/ecclesiasticalh02boylgoog#page/n50/mode/1up[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 51; internally Page 17] Of Him, Moses obviously speaks as the second after the Father, when he says, "The Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord." Him also again appearing to Jacob in the form of man, the sacred Scriptures call by the name of God, saying to Jacob, "Thy name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name, because thou hast prevailed with God." Whence also Jacob called the name of that place the vision of God, saying, "I have seen God face to face, and my soul has lived." To suppose these divine appearances the forms of subordinate angels and servants of God, is inadmissable; since, as often as any of these appeared to men, the Scriptures do not conceal the fact in the name, expressly saying that they were called not God nor Lord, but angels, as would be easy to prove by a thousand references. Joshua also, the successor of Moses, calls him as the ruler of celestial angels and archangels, of supernal powers, and as the power and wisdom of God, intrusted with the second rank of sovereignty and rule over all, "the captain of the Lord's host," although he saw him only in the form and shape of man. For thus it is written: "And it came to pass when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold there stood a man over against him, with his sword drawn in his hand; and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries. And he said, Nay but as captain of the Lord's host am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant? And the captain of the Lord's host, said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot: for the place whereon thou standest is holy." Josh. V.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 52; internally Page 18] Since the Scriptures in the same words, and in reference to the same one says, "When the Lord saw that he drew near to see, the Lord called to him from the midst of the bush, saying, Moses, Moses. And he answered, Here am I. But he said, Draw not nearer, loose thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place on which thou standest is holy ground. And he said to him, I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." ..." [Page 52; internally Page 18] - [/FONT]https://archive.org/stream/ecclesiasticalh02boylgoog#page/n52/mode/1up

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] CHURCH FATHERS: Church History, Book I (Eusebius)[/FONT]​

 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Quintus Septimius Florens Tertullianus, anglicised as Tertullian (c. AD 160 – c. AD 225 AD),[1] was a prolific early Christian author from Carthage in the Roman province of Africa.[2] He is the first Christian author to produce an extensive corpus of Latin Christian literature. - Wikipedia[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]TERTULLIAN, AN ANSWER TO THE JEWS, (Adversus Iudaeos)[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]TRANSLATED BY THE REV. S. THELWALL.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]CHAP. IX. -- OF THE PROPHECIES OF THE BIRTH AND ACHIEVEMENTS OF CHRIST[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... For [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He who ever spake to Moses was the Son of God Himself[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]; who, too, [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]was always seen[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].169 ... the Spirit, ... [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]calls the forerunner of Christ, John, a future "angel," through the prophet: "Behold, I send mine angel before Thy" - that is, Christ's - "face, who shall prepare Thy way before Thee.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"173 [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] 169 Comp. Num. xii. 5-8. ...[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] 173 Mal. iii. 1: comp. Matt. xi. 10; Mark i. 2; Luke vii. 27.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"[/FONT] - [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0308.html[/FONT]​

 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Roman Catholic Bible with Footnotes:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]New American Bible for Catholics, footnotes:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The New American Bible - Revised Edition, 2011: Translated from the Original Languages with critical Use of All the Ancient Sources Including the Revised Psalms and the Revised new Testament, 2011, By Oxford University Press, Inc.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The New American Bible: NIHIL OBSTAT: Stephen J. Hartdegen, O.F.M., S.S.L.; Christian P. Ceroke, O. Carm., S.T.D.; IMPRIMATUR: [Cross] Patrick Cardinal O'Boyle, D.D. Archbishop of Washington July 27, 1970; The Revised New Testament: NIHIL OBSTAT: Stephen J. Hartdegen, [/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]O.F.M., S.S.L. Censor Deputatus; IMPRIMATUR: [Cross] James Cardinal Hickey, S.T.D., J.C.D. Archbishop of Washington August 27, 1986[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Standard Print:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 16:7:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"… [Standard Print Page 48; Large Print Page 72] * [16:7] The LORD’s angel: a manifestation of God in human form; in v. 13 the messenger is identified with God. See note on Ex 3:2. …" [Standard Print Page 48; Large Print Page 72] - scripture[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 18:10:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"… [Standard Print Page 49; Large Print Page 73] * [18:10] One of them: i.e., the Lord. ..." [Standard Print Page 49; Large Print Page 73] - scripture[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Exodus 3:2:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“... [Standard Print Page 92; Large Print Page 136] * [3:2] The angel of the LORD: Hebrew mal’ak or “messenger” is regularly translated angelos by the Septuagint, from which the English word “angel” is derived, but the Hebrew term lacks connotations now popularly associated with “angel” (such as wings). Although angels frequently assume human form (cf. Gn 18–19), the term is also used to indicate the visual form under which God occasionally appeared and spoke to people, referred to indifferently in some Old Testament texts either as God’s “angel,” mal’ak, or as God. Cf. Gn 16:7, 13; Ex 14:19, 24–25; Nm 22:22–35; Jgs 6:11–18. ...” [Standard Print Page 92; Large Print Page 136] - [/FONT]scripture
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Joshua 5:14:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Standard Print Page 227; Large Print Page 335] * [5:14] Commander: the leader of the heavenly army of the Lord of hosts is either the Lord or an angelic warrior; if the latter, he is a messenger who speaks in the person of the one who sent him. I have come: the solemn language of theophany; cf., e.g., Ps 50:3; 96:13. …" [Standard Print Page 227; Large Print Page 335] - [/FONT]scripture
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]It is interesting that the Douay Rheims [Jesuit] Roman Catholic Bible, with Challoner's notation says that this “Commander” in Joshua 5:14 is named “Michael”, and in Daniel 10:21, states that the “guardian general” of the Church is “Michael”, and yet also recognizes that “the leader of the heavenly army of the Lord of hosts” can indeed be “the Lord”, why then cannot “the Lord” be symbolized by the designation “Michael”, which according to notation of Revelation 12:7 in the NAB means “Who can compare with God?”, for is not Jesus Christ, God, the Son, the Chief Leader of all Angels or Highest Messenger of the Father, yea the Arch-Angel, yea the Apostle [Hebrews 3:1] of the Father Himself?:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Joshua 5:14 [Douay Rheims [Jesuit] Roman Catholic Bible with Challoner notation]:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [14] Prince of the host of the Lord: St. Michael, who is called prince of the people of Israel, Dan. 10. 21. ..." - [/FONT]Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, Book Of Josue (Joshua) Chapter 5
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniel 10:21 [Douay Rheims [Jesuit] Roman Catholic Bible with Challoner notation]:[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [21] Michael your prince: The guardian general of the church of God. …" - Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, Prophecy Of Daniel Chapter 10[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 12:7:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Standard Print Page 2128; Large Print Page 2128] * [12:7–12] Michael, mentioned only here in Revelation, wins a victory over the dragon. A hymn of praise follows. …" [Standard Print Page 2128; Large Print Page 2128] - scripture[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Standard Print Page 2128; Large Print Page 2128] * [12:7] Michael: the archangel, guardian and champion of Israel; cf. Dn 10:13, 21; 12:1; Jude 9. In Hebrew, the name Michael means “Who can compare with God?”; cf. Rev 13:4. …" [Standard Print Page 2128; Large Print Page 2128] - scripture[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:1:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Standard Print Page 2051; Large Print Page 2051] the apostle, a designation for Jesus used only here in the New Testament (cf. Jn 13:16; 17:3), meaning one sent as God’s final word to us (Heb 1:2) ..." [Standard Print Page 2051; Large Print Page 2051] - scripture[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Judges 6:22:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"… [Standard Print Page 369; Large Print Page 369] * [6:22] Ancient Israel thought that seeing God face to face meant mortal danger, as Ex 33:20 indicates and as Gideon’s reaction here shows. Compare the reaction of Samson’s parents (13:22–23) when they realize they have been conversing with the Lord. ..." [Standard Print Page 369; Large Print Page 369] - [/FONT]scripture
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Judges 13:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Standard Print Page 370; Large Print Page 370] * [13:22] We will certainly die: seeing God face to face was believed to be fatal, as explained in note on 6:22, where Gideon’s reaction is similar to that of Manoah here. ..." [Standard Print Page 370; Large Print Page 370] - [/FONT]scripture
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Malachi 3:1:[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"… [Standard Print Page 1070; Large Print Page 1587] * [3:1] My messenger…before me: Mt 11:10 applies these words to John the Baptist; Mt 11:14 further identifies John as Elijah (see Mal 3:23). Some take God’s messenger in v. 1a to be a person distinct from “the lord” and “the messenger of the covenant” in v. 1b ... Some consider “the lord” and “the messenger of the covenant” to be divine …" [Standard Print Page 1070; Large Print Page 1587] - http://www.usccb.org/bible/malachi/3#47003001[/FONT]
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Again, not detracting from the Deity of Jesus Christ in the least, let us take a look at who else taught these things, that YHVH, the Son [Jesus] is designated Archangel, and Angel, Messenger and Apostle, for Who is as God, the Highest Messenger [even the sent of the Father], and what it means to the Everlasting Gospel itself?

 

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Charles Buck (AD 1771 – AD 11 Aug 1815) was an English Independent minister.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]A Theological Dictionary, containing Definitions of all religious terms; a comprehensive view of every article in the system of Divinity, an impartial account of all the principle denominations which have subsisted in the religious world from the birth of Christ to the present day; together with an accurate statement of the most remarkable transactions and events recorded in Ecclesiastical history. By the Rev. Charles Buck. 1830. - A Theological Dictionary: Containing Definitions of All Religious Terms; a ... - Charles Buck - Google Books[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... ANGEL, a spiritual intelligent substance, the first in rank and dignity among created beings. The word angel (ἄγγελο&#962 is Greek, and signifies a messenger. The Hebrew word [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]מַלְאָךְ [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]signifies the same. Angels, therefore, in the proper signification of the word, do not import the nature of any being, but only the office to which they are appointed, especially by way of message or intercourse between God and his creatures. Hence the word is used differently in various parts of the Scripture, and signifies, 1. Human messengers, or agents of others. 2. Sam. II. 5. "David sent messengers (Heb. angels) to Jabesh Gilead." Prov. XIII. 17. Mark I. 2. James II. 25. - 2.Officers of the churches, whether prophets or ordinary ministers, Hag. I .13. Rev. I. 20 - 3. Jesus Christ, Mal. III. 1. Is. LXIII. 9. ..." [Page 17] - A Theological Dictionary: Containing Definitions of All Religious Terms; a ... - Charles Buck - Google Books[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... ARCHANGEL, ... others, not without reason, reckon it a title only applicable to our Saviour. Compare Jude IX. with Dan. XII . 1. 1 Thess. IV. 16. ..." [Page 23] - A Theological Dictionary: Containing Definitions of All Religious Terms; a ... - Charles Buck - Google Books[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John Butterworth, minister[/FONT] [born AD 1727- died AD 1803]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]A New Concordance to the Holy Scriptures. Being the Most Comprehensive and Concise of any before published. in which not only any word or passage of Scripture may be easily found, but the signification also is given of all proper names mentioned in the sacred Writings. By the Rev. John Butterworth, minister of the Gospel. A New Edition with Considerable improvements, by Adam Clarke, LL.D. London. 1812[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... ANGEL, s. A messenger, or one sent of God; and is applied, [1] To those noble, intellectual and spiritual beings, whom God makes use of as his ministers, to execute the orders of Providence, Heb. 1. 7, 14. Psal. 104. 4. [2] To Christ, who is the messenger of the covenant, and brought the glad tidings of salvation to men, Zech. 1. 12. Mal. 3. 1. Rev. 10. 1. ..." [Page 34] - A new concordance to the Holy Scriptures[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... ARACHANGEL, s. A prince of angels, or the chief angel. 1. Thess. 4. 16. Jude 9. ..." [Page 40] - A new concordance to the Holy Scriptures[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... MESSENGER, s. is applied, [1] To Jesus Christ, who published the tidings of salvation, Mal. 3. 1. ..." [Page 401] - A new concordance to the Holy Scriptures[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... MICHAEL, Who is like God? One of the names of Christ Jesus, Dan.: 10. 21. Jude 9. Rev. 12. 7. ..." [Page 402] - A new concordance to the Holy Scriptures[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Alexander Cruden (AD May 31, 1699 – AD November 1, 1770); Latin, Greek and Biblical scholar[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Cruden's Complete Concordance to The Old and New Testaments, By Alexander Crduen, M.A.; Morgan and Scott's Popular Edition of Cruden's Concordance; 1888.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... ANGEL Signifies, A messenger, or bringer of tidings, and is applied [1] To those intellectual ... beings., whom God makes use of as his ministers to execute the orders of providence, Rev. 22. 8. [2] To Christ, who is the Mediator and Head of the church, Zech. 1. 12. Rev. 10. 1. ..." [Page 12] - https://archive.org/stream/crudenscompletec00crud#page/12/mode/1up[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... MESSENGER Signifies, One who carries message between party and party, Gen. 32. 3. | 50. 16. It is applied [1] To Christ Jesus, called the Messenger of the Covenant, Mal. 3. 1. Who, though he be one with the Father, yet humbled himself for our sakes, to be as a messenger from his Father, to declare his will to us, to confirm the covenant of grace by his death, to reveal this salvation, with the promise of the Holy Spirit to work true faith and repentance in our hearts. ..." [Page 383] - https://archive.org/stream/crudenscompletec00crud#page/383/mode/1up[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Patrick Fairbairn (AD 28 January 1805 – AD 6 August 1874) was a Scottish minister and theologian.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Fairbairn’s Imperial Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Patrick Fairbairn, D.D., editor, Grand Rapids, Zondervan Publishing, 1957, Vol. IV, pp.238,239; Revised 1997, Vol. Seven, p. 800. (originally published as The Imperial Bible Dictionary, 1891), - https://archive.org/details/fairbairnsimperi04fair[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]https://openlibrary.org/books/OL24236810M/Fairbairn%27s_imperial_standard_Bible_encyclopedia[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]“But we have not only this, that Michael is here [Daniel 12:1], not ‘one of the chief princes,’ nor even ‘the first of them;’ but ‘the chief prince,’ because no other prince is worthy to be named in the same breath with him; as in fact he is that unlimited and everlasting ruler of whom the whole book of Daniel prophesies, at the coming of whose kingdom all its rivals were swept away, and no place was found for them.

“A dispassionate consideration can scarcely fail to convince us that this being whom Daniel saw is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God. …There is nothing strange and unprecedented in the view that this prince of his people, this great prince, this effective helper superior to men and angels even when he stood alone; should be a person about whom there was indeed a great mystery in the Old Testament, but who had been known throughout the whole course of revelation to Daniel’s people, as standing in some very close relation at once to Jehovah and to them.

“To deny that the Angel of the Lord is the Son of God is to introduce confusion into the whole of the record of God’s dealings with his ancient people; if, on the contrary, we affirm their identity, when the supposition that he and Michael are one and the same is the simplest and most natural imaginable, as will appear all the more if we attempt to construct a different theory.” [/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]William Baxter Godbey (AD June 3, 1833 - AD September 12, 1920) was a Wesleyan evangelist.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]William Baxter Godbey's Commentary on the New Testament; Revelation 12[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... 7. In this graphic description of the war in heaven, Dr. Clarke (as in Daniel 12:1) identifies Michael with Christ. “The Angel of the Covenant,” so frequently mentioned in the Old Testament, is believed be the excarnate Christ. ..." [Page 62] - Revelation 12 - William Godbey's Commentary on the New Testament[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew Pool[e] – (AD 1624 – AD 1679) was an English Nonconformist theologian.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Annotations upon The Holy Bible: Wherein the Sacred Text is Inserted, and Various Readings Annexed, Together with the Parallel Scriptures; The More Difficult Terms in each Verse are Explained, Seeming Contradictions Reconciled, Questions and Doubts Resolved, and the Whole Text Opened. By Matthew Pool, in Three Volumes, Volume I., New York; 1853 (Poole, and Non-conformist brethren first published in 1683)[/FONT] -[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] Annotations Upon the Holy Bible: Wherein the Sacred Text is Inserted, and ... - Matthew Poole - Google Books[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... EXODUS III. … 2 And c the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]c Deut. 33.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]16.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Is. 63. 9.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 7. 30[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The angel of the LORD; not a created angel, but the Angel of the covenant, Christ Jesus, who then and ever was God, and was to be man, and to be sent into the world in our flesh, as a messenger of God. And these ... were presages or forerunners of his more solemn mission and coming, and therefore he is fitly called an Angel. That this Angel was no creature, plainly appears by the whole context, and specially by his saying, I am the Lord, &c. And it is a vain pretense to say that the angel, as God's ambassador, speaks in God's name and person; for what ambassador of any king in the world did ever speak thus, I am the king, &c? Ministers are God's ambassadors, but if any of them should say, I am the Lord, they would be guilty of blasphemy, and so would any created angel be too, for the same reason. ...[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]... Draw not nigh hither; keep thy distance; whereby he checks his curiosity and forwardness, and works him to the greater greater reverence and humility. Compare Exod. XIX. 12, 21.; Josh. V. 15. Put off thy shoes L this he requires as an act and token, 1. Of his reverence to the Divine Majesty, then and there eminently present. 2. Of his humiliation for his sins, whereby he was unfit and unworthy to appear before God; for this was a posture of humiliation, 2 Sam. XV. 30; Isa. XX. 2, 4; Ezek. XXIV. 17, 23. 3. Of purification from the filth of his feet, or ways, or conversation, that he might be more fit to approach to God. See John XIII. 10; Heb. X. 22. 4. Of his submission and readiness to obey God's will, for which reason slaves used to be barefooted. Holy ground; with a relative holiness at this time, because of my special presence in it. ..." [Page 120][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... JOSHUA V. … 14 And he said, Nay; not as || captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua r fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]|| Or, prince.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]See Ex. 23.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]20. Dan. 10.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]13, 21. & 17.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1. Rev. 12. 7.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]& 19. 11. 14.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]r Gen. 17. 3.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He said, Nay, I am neither Israelite not Canaanite. Caption of the host of the Lord; either, 1. Of all creatures in heaven and earth, which are God's hosts. Or, 2. Of the angels, who are called the host of heaven, 1 Kings XXII. 19; 2 Chron. XVIII. 18; Luke II. 13. Or, 3. Of the host or people of Israel, which are called the Lord's host, Exod. XII. 41. The sense is, I am the chief Captain of this people, and will conduct and assist thee and them in this great undertaking. Now this person is none other than Michael the Prince, Dan. X. 12; XII. 1; not a created angel, but the Son of God, who went along with the Israelites in this expedition, 1 Cor. X. 4; not surely as an underling, but as their Chief and Captain. And this appears, 1. By his acceptance of adoration here. which a created angel durst not admit of, Rev. XXII. 8,9. 2. Because the place was made holy by his presence, ver. 15, which was God's prerogative, Exod. III. 5. 3. Because he is called the Lord, Heb. Jehovah, Josh. VI. 2. What saith my Lord unto his servant? I acknowledge thee for my Lord and Captain, and therefore wait for thy commands, which I am ready to obey. ..." [Page 417][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... Judges XII, XIII. ... 3 And the d angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]d ch. 6. 12.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 1. 11,[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]13, 28, 31.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The angel of the Lord; the Son of God, oft so called in the Old Testament, as may be gathered from ver. 18, yet distinguished from the Lord, because he appeared here as it were in the form of a servant, as a messenger sent from God, and was really a distinct person from God the Father. ..." [Page 487]http://books.google.com/books?id=xNwXAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Annotations ... Volume II., New York; 1853 (Poole, and Non-conformist brethren first published in 1683)[/FONT] - [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Annotations upon the Holy Bible: wherein the sacred text is inserted, and ... - Matthew Poole - Google Books[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... DANIEL X. … 13 a But the prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but lo, b Michael, || one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a ver. 20.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]b ver. 21.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ch. 12. 1.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jude 9.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Rev. 12. 7.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]|| Or, the first[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]... as Michael and the devil strove, Rev. XII. 7. ... Michael: this we take to be Christ. 1. His name signifies, who is like God. 2. He is the first in dignity above all the angels, Heb. I. 4-7, &c., called archangel, and the church's prince, ver. 21. 3. The chief champion of his church, helping Gabriel not as his fellow, but as his general. Thus we see what care God takes of his church's safety against their potent enemies, by doubling their succours, (when he could do it, if he pleased, without means,) thereby to consult his own glory in this world by defeating the counsels and breaking the powers of the mightiest enemies, after he had given them rope to do their worst. ..." [Page 841][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... DANIEL X. … 21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth : and there is none that + holdeth with me in these things, m but Michael your prince.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]+ Heb. strengtheneth himself.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]m ver. 13. Jude 9. Rev. 12. 7.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]In the scripture of truth, i.e. in the peremptory decree and purpose of God, more authentic and unalterable than the laws of the Medes and Persians. ... Michael your prince; Jesus Christ alone is the Champion and Protector of his church, and that all-sufficient, when all the princes of the earth besides deserted or opposed it. For it cannot be meant of angels in any sound sense, as popish interpreters would have it, thereby to countenance their angel worship ..." [Page 842][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... DANIEL XII. … 6 And one said to p the man clothed in linen, which was || upon the waters of the river, q How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]p ch. 10. 5.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]|| Or, from above.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]q ch. 8. 13[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]To the man clothed in linen; to Michael, chap. X. 5; Christ, who seemed to stand between the banks, i.e. in the air above the waters, or upon them. Matt. XIV. 25; upon many people, say some, Rev. X. 2. ..." [Page 848][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... MALACHI ... CHAP III. ... The messenger of the covenant; the Angel of the covenant, not Elias, but Christ, the Messiah, in whose blood the covenant of grace was confirmed, for whose sake it is performed to us. ..." [Page 1025][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Annotations ... Volume III., New York; 1853 (Poole, and Non-conformist brethren first published in 1683)[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Annotations Upon the Holy Bible: Wherein the Sacred Text is Inserted, and ... - Matthew Poole - Google Books[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... JUDE ... 9 ... Yet Michael the archangel : either this is understood of Christ, the Prince of angels, who is often in Scripture called an Angel ... When contending with the devil; it may be meant either of Christ contending with the devil, as Matt IV., in his temptation, and Zech. III. 1, 2 and Rev. XII. 7; ..." [Page 945; Poole, in these passages, gives both options, [1] as Christ, uncreated, or [2] some other angel, one of creation; in a symbolic sense; the first option being cited, and says "...If Michael the archangel be meant of Christ, ..." &c, yet he considers option two in the light of "Peter", referencing 2 Peter.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... REVELATION X. ... AND I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud : a and a rainbow was upon his head, and b his face was as it were the sun, and c his feet as pillars of fire:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a Ezek. 1. 28.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]b Mat. 17. 2.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ch 1. 16.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]c ch. 1. 15.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And I saw another mighty angel; the most and best interpreters understand by this angel, Christ, formerly represented to us as a Lamb, here as an Angel; none but he could call the two witnesses, chap. XI. 3, his witnesses; besides, the glorious appearance of this angel speaketh him no ordinary angel. Come down from heaven; God being about to do or speak some great thing, is oft thus set out as coming down from heaven. Clothed with a cloud; Christ is described as coming with clouds, chap. I. 7. The Lord hath said that he would dwell in the thick darkness, 2 Chron. VI. 1. And a rainbow was upon his head; which was the sign of the covenant made with Noah, Gen. IX. 16, and fitted Christ's head, as he that brought peace to the world, and to his church in special. And his face was as it were the sun : see Matt. XVII. 2. And his feet as pillars of fire; signifying the steadiness and efficacy of his actions. ...[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]... 3 ... And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth : this voice suited him who is the Lion of the tribe of Judah : the lion's voice is both loud and terrible. ...[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]... 5 ... And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth : see ver. 2; which Angel was Christ. Lifted up his hand to heaven; as Dan. XII. 7, with which prophecy this agreeth. It is an ordinary gesture used in swearing. ..." [Page 974][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... REVELATION XII. ... 7... Others, by Michael here understand Christ himself, who they think, is understood by Michael, Dan. XII. 1. ..." [Page 981; Poole, himself, in this instance, seems to take a more symbolic approach, while still listing the various ideas of others.][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John Kitto (AD 4 December 1804 – AD 25 November 1854) was an English biblical scholar of Cornish descent.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]William Lindsay Alexander (AD 24 August 1808 – AD 20 December 1884) was a Scottish Church Leader.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]A Cyclopaedia of Biblical literature; Volume III, by John Kitto, D.D., F.S.A. Third Edition, Edited by William Lindsay Alexander, D.D., F.S.A.S., Etc, assisted by numerous contributors [see pages V, VI] in Three Volumes with biographical notices and general index; 1876[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"...MICHAEL ... [There seems good reason for regarding Michael as a name of the Messiah. Such was the opinion of the best among the ancient Jews (Wetstein, N.T., note on Jude 9; Surenhusius Bibles Katall., p. 701, etc.) With this all the Bible representations of Michael agree. He appears as the Great Prince who standeth for Israel (Dan. XII. 1), and he is called 'the prince of Israel' (Dan. X. 21); expressions which may be compered with that used in chap. IX. 25 of the Messiah. So in the N.T. Michael appears as the defender of the church against Satan (Rev. XII. 7), the special work of Christ (1 John III. 8). ... Jude doubtless cites here a Jewish tradition which there is no reason for not regarding as true; for aught that can be shown to the contrary, Satan and the Logos, as Michael, may have contended for the body of Moses as a deep symbol of their grand contest for the spiritual dominion of the race. The appearance of Moses in a body at the transfiguration given some countenance to the belief that he was on this occasion delivered from him that hath the power of death, and, like Elijah, triumphantly carried into heaven. ... The Bible names ... Michael, the archangel, even the Lord, who shall come to judge the quick and the dead (1 Thess. IV. 16).] ... [Page 158] - A Cyclopædia of Biblical Literature - William Lindsay Alexander - Google Books[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Sir William Smith (AD 20 May 1813 – AD 7 October 1893) was an English lexicographer.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]A Comprehensive Dictionary of the Bible. Mainly abridged from Dr. WM. Smith's Dictionary of the Bible, but comprising Important Additions and Improvements from the works of Robinson, Gesenius, Furst, Pape, Pott, Winer, Keil, Lange, Kitto, Fairbairn, Alexander, Barnes, Bush, Thomson, Stanley, Porter, Tristram, King, Ayre, and many other eminent scholars, commentators, travellers, and authors in various departments. Designed to be a Complete Guide in regard to the pronunciation and signification of Scriptural names; the solution of difficulties respecting the interpretation, authority, and harmony of the Old and New Testaments; the history and description of Biblical customs, events, places, persons, animals, plants, minerals, and other things concerning which information is needed for an intelligent and thorough study of the Holy Scriptures, and of the books of the apocrypha. By Sir William Smith; Edited by Rev. Samuel W. Barnum. Illustrated with five hundred maps and engravings. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 90, 92 & 94 Grand Street. London: 16 Little Britain. 1868.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 41] Angels [ane'jelz] (fr. Gr. = messengers = Heb. malachim). ... In many passages "the angel of God," "the angel of Jehovah," is a manifestation of God himself. Compare Gen. XXII. 11 with 12, and Ex. III. 2 with 6 and 14; where the "angel of Jehovah" is called "God," and "Jehovah," and accepts the worship due to God alone. (Contrast Rev. XIX. 10, XXII. 9.) See also Gen. XVI. 7, 13, XXXI. 11, 13, XLVIII. 15, 16; Num. XXII. 22, 32, 35, and comp. Is. LXIII. 9 with Ex. XXXIII. 14, &c., &c. Side by side with these expressions, we read of God's being manifested in the form of man; as to Abraham at Mamre (Gen. XVIII. 2, 22, comp. XIX. 1), to Jacob at Peniel (Gen. XXXII. 24, 30), to Joshua at Gilgal (Josh. V. 13, 15), &c. Apparently both sets of passages refer to the same kind of manifestation of the Divine Presence. Now, since "no man hath seen God" (the Father) "at any time," and "the only-begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath revealed Him" (Jn. I. 18), the "Angel of the Lord" in such passages must be He, who is from the beginning the "Word," i.e. the Manifester or Revealer of God, and these appearances must be "fore-shadowings of the Incarnation." Besides this highest application of "angel" or "messenger" it is used of any messengers of God..." [Page 41-42] ... The Incarnation marks a new epoch of angelic ministration. "The angel of Jehovah," the lord of all created angels, having now descended from heaven to earth, it was natural that His servants should continue to do Him service there. ..." [Page 41-42] - https://archive.org/stream/comprehensivedic00smituoft#page/41/mode/1up[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 51] Apostle [a-pos'l] (fr. Gr. = one sent forth) ... It is once applied to the Lord Jesus Christ, the one sent from God (Heb. III. 1; comp. Mal. III. 1; Jn. III. 34; Ex. III. 10-15; Angels). ..." [Page 51] - https://archive.org/stream/comprehensivedic00smituoft#page/51/mode/1up[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"... [Page 645] Michael ... [Page 645-646] Many (Luther, Hengstenberg, Dr. W. L. Alexander [in Kitto], Prof. Douglas [in Fairbairn], &c.) maintain that Michael = the Messiah or Lord Jesus Christ 9compare Dan. X. 21, XII. 1 with IX. 25; Rev. XII. 7 with 1 Jn. III. 8). "Michael designates Him," says Prof. Douglas, "as does also the title 'Angel' or 'Archangel,'" not simply in His divine essence, but in an official character of subordination, as the Messenger of Jehovah and the Captain of the Lord's host. Professor Douglas compares the answer of Michael in Jude 9 with those of Christ in Mat. IV. 4, 7, 10, and remarks that the opposition of Michael and the devil here "is without a parallel in Scripture, if Michael be a created angel; whereas it is a very common opposition indeed, if Michael be Christ." ..." [Page 646] - https://archive.org/stream/comprehensivedic00smituoft#page/646/mode/1up[/FONT]
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