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Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by lambofgod43985889, Aug 2, 2020.

  1. lambofgod43985889

    lambofgod43985889 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Since leftists are atheists Jesus does not join them
    Then the Right wing had oppressed the working class since the beginning
    So as Christian's, who we should vote for?
    Evangelical community in my country is hold by right wing politicians, they use them but at least the right wing let you to preach in the street without inconvenient
     
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  2. Paulus59

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    Hi Lambofgod,

    I copied & pasted the following from GotQuestions:

    Question: "How should a Christian view politics?"

    Answer: If there is anything that will spark a spontaneous debate, if not an outright argument, it is a discussion involving politics—even among believers. As followers of Christ, what should be our attitude and our involvement with politics? It has been said that “religion and politics don’t mix.” But is that really true? Can we have political views outside the considerations of our Christian faith? The answer is no, we cannot. The Bible gives us two truths regarding our stance towards politics and government.

    The first truth is that the will of God permeates and supersedes every aspect of life. It is God’s will that takes precedence over everything and everyone (Matthew 6:33). God’s plans and purposes are fixed, and His will is inviolable. What He has purposed, He will bring to pass, and no government can thwart His will (Daniel 4:34-35). In fact, it is God who “sets up kings and deposes them” (Daniel 2:21) because “the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes” (Daniel 4:17). A clear understanding of this truth will help us to see that politics is merely a method God uses to accomplish His will. Even though evil men abuse their political power, meaning it for evil, God means it for good, working “all things together for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28).

    Second, we must grasp the fact that our government cannot save us! Only God can. We never read in the New Testament of Jesus or any of the apostles expending any time or energy schooling believers on how to reform the pagan world of its idolatrous, immoral, and corrupt practices via the government. The apostles never called for believers to demonstrate civil disobedience to protest the Roman Empire's unjust laws or brutal schemes. Instead, the apostles commanded the first-century Christians, as well as us today, to proclaim the gospel and live lives that give clear evidence to the gospel’s transforming power.

    There is no doubt that our responsibility to government is to obey the laws and be good citizens (Romans 13:1–2). God has established all authority, and He does so for our benefit, “to commend those who do right” (1 Peter 2:13–15). Paul tells us in Romans 13:1–8 that it is the government’s responsibility to rule in authority over us—hopefully for our good—to collect taxes, and to keep the peace. Where we have a voice and can elect our leaders, we should exercise that right by voting for those who best demonstrate Christian principles.

    One of Satan’s grandest deceptions is that we can rest our hope for cultural morality and godly living in politicians and governmental officials. A nation’s hope for change is not to be found in any country’s ruling class. The church has made a mistake if it thinks that it is the job of politicians to defend, to advance, and to guard biblical truths and Christian values.

    The church’s unique, God-given purpose does not lie in political activism. Nowhere in Scripture do we have the directive to spend our energy, our time, or our money in governmental affairs. Our mission lies not in changing the nation through political reform, but in changing hearts through the Word of God. When believers think the growth and influence of Christ can somehow be allied with government policy, they corrupt the mission of the church. Our Christian mandate is to spread the gospel of Christ and to preach against the sins of our time. Only as the hearts of individuals in a culture are changed by Christ will the culture begin to reflect that change.

    Believers throughout the ages have lived, and even flourished, under antagonistic, repressive, pagan governments. This was especially true of the first-century believers who, under merciless political regimes, sustained their faith under immense cultural stress. They understood that it was they, not their governments, who were the light of the world and the salt of the earth. They adhered to Paul’s teaching to obey their governing authorities, even to honor, respect, and pray for them (Romans 13:1-8). More importantly, they understood that, as believers, their hope resided in the protection that only God supplies. The same holds true for us today. When we follow the teachings of the Scriptures, we become the light of the world as God has intended for us to be (Matthew 5:16).

    Political entities are not the savior of the world. The salvation for all mankind has been manifested in Jesus Christ. God knew that our world needed saving long before any national government was ever founded. He demonstrated to the world that redemption could not be accomplished through the power of man, economic strength, military might, or politics. Peace of mind, contentment, hope, and joy—and the salvation of mankind—are provided only through Jesus’ death and resurrection.
     
  3. lambofgod43985889

    lambofgod43985889 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Sum it up
     
  4. Paulus59

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    You vote for whoever is better for the people, left or right and continue to be a Christian.
     
  5. Strathos

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    By modern standards? Neither.
     
  6. Anthony2019

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    I don't think anyone should be telling us how we should vote. Not even the church. A vote gives us the freedom to have our own say as individuals.

    If we want to vote in a manner that is truly Christian, then I think that we should not just be considering our own needs, but also the needs of others. We should consider their need for health, housing, education and employment, as much as our own. We should strive to live at peace with others, as Jesus commanded, and the only way we can achieve this is through mutual care, respect and fairness.

    Part of a free, fair and democratic society is having the ability to make our own choices. And that includes the choice of who we vote for. If that choice is taken away from us, then it is not a proper vote at all.
     
  7. Dave G.

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    Jesus was is from the kingdom of God, He wasn't left or right but righteous, light and truth. Lefts and rights both have things he would and certainly would not have a positive message to preach on. He has his own platform.
     
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  9. Inkfingers

    Inkfingers Somebody's heretic Supporter

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    He's neither a Capitalist, nor a Socialist, nor an Anarchist, nor a Communist, nor a Libertarian, nor a Liberal.

    He's a King who will divide the deserving from the undeserving and punish the latter with capital punishment whilst raising the former to being royal an priestly rulers, in an organic society that includes support for the widow and orphan.

    As such, he is old school Right.
     
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  10. Albion

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    Here's where we need to start on answering the question asked in the original post--

    The second sentence is false, and you can thank some of the people referred to in the first sentence for that bit of disinformation. ;) Does that help?
     
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  11. Arc F1

    Arc F1 Let the righteous man arise from slumber

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    Jesus wouldn't be on either side. But for us we have to pick the lesser of the two evils so my vote is going to Trump.
     
  12. Andrewn

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    It is impossible to read the Gospels and Acts without concluding that Jesus is leftist. The problem is that what I may call Christian Socialism got hijacked by Marxists, Atheists, abortion-promoting, drug abuse-promoting new type of left, which has pushed Christians toward the right wing.

    What I said should not be misunderstood as a criticism of Capitalism or property ownership. But I do not believe that unbridled Capitalism is compatible with Christianity. What made America great is social justice and it is what OT prophets preached. When the world's 26 richest people own as much as poorest 50%, something is very wrong with the current world system.

    World's 26 richest people own as much as poorest 50%, says Oxfam

    The term liberal conservatism has been used in quite different ways. It usually contrasts with aristocratic conservatism, which deems the principle of equality as something discordant with human nature and emphasizes instead the idea of natural inequality.
     
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  13. Albion

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    It is impossible to read the Gospels and Acts and not see that Jesus is apolitical.

    And that's to say nothing of the other quite obvious fact that the packages of ideas we associate with terms like Left and Right or even Conservative and Liberal did not even exist at that time.
     
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  14. eleos1954

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    He changes the times and seasons; He removes kings and establishes them. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning.

    Gods plan will play out .. He has the final "vote". ;o)
     
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  15. Archivist

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    Left wing/right wing politics didn’t develop until the French Revolution in the late 1700s. Liberal representatives sat on the left side of the French chamber, conservatives sat on the right side. Jesus could be neither left wing nor right wing because those terms were not in use during His lifetime.
     
  16. lambofgod43985889

    lambofgod43985889 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    But you can recognize aspects
     
  17. NBB

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    Left wing usually favours abortion, lgbt things, and i think usually they are not too fond of churches. So thats something to consider i guess.
     
  18. Archivist

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    Yes, but as I said it couldn't have happened.
     
  19. Andrewn

    Andrewn Well-Known Member CF Ambassadors Supporter

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    Some Republicans make arguments that are so superficial as to be a complete turn off. It's like all they care about is the value of their stocks. I hope when we Christians have discussions with non-Christians that they at least view our arguments as loving and intelligent.

    BTW, I am a Republican.
     
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  20. Albion

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    Welcome to the club. :)
     
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