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Jesus Kept The Law

Discussion in 'Sabbath and The Law' started by EastCoastRemnant, Mar 23, 2018.

  1. LoveGodsWord

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    I think scripture says that Sarah was Abrahams half sister so to speak not full.

    Genesis 20:12. Besides, she really is my sister (Abraham), the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife.

    But I think this was consistant with the practice before Moses and before the flood as well. In those days life span was up to 1000 years so lots of time to populate the world.

    Also, to start with ADAM and EVE'S Children would have had to marry their brothers or sisters until the World populated. So if you believe God's WORD we are all literally related and brothers and sisters and children of God through ADAM and EVE who are the parents of all.
     
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    Hi 1stcenturylady said

    Highlighted as a red flag above. That has no truth in it whatsoever and rejects God's WORD.


    There is no commandment that says God's 4th Commandment has now been ABOLISHED and there is NO Command to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY day and SIN is breaking any of God's Commandments then it only stands to reason that those who CONTINUE in SIN will not enter into God's KINGDOM.

    GODS 4th COMMANDMENT of the 10

    EXODUS 20:8-11
    8, Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
    9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
    10, But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
    11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.


    SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

    Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

    God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

    Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

    There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.


    Well that is not true whatsoever. COL 2 is in reference to the laws of ORDINANCES from the MOSIAC BOOK of the COVENANT and annual festival SABBATH(S) that are not God's 4th Commandment. You do indeed ignore God's WORD and the posts and scriptures and questions asked of you that disagree with you.

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    Where in all of ROMANS 14 does it say it is referring to God's 4th Commandment? Now your adding to scripture.

    There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

    If you are breaking ANY of God's 10 Commandments you stand guilty before God "UNDER THE LAW" of SIN because you have broken God's LAW. Those who do not seek God in REPENTANCE and FORGIVENESS are still in their SINS and do NOT know God neither do they have his SPIRIT as God only gives his SPIRIT to those who OBEY him (Acts 5:32; 1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 3:3-9)

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    SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

    Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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    God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

    Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

    There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

    Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

    In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31)
     
  3. LoveGodsWord

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    I am sorry listed you seem confused as to what I said to you earlier. Why would you think that I believe Jesus is the father? I was quoting from John 10:30, I and my Father are one. Maybe you need more scripture as you seem confused on the subject?

    John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to you. Holy Father, keep through your own name those whom you have given me, that they may be one, as we are.

    John 17:21 That they all may be one; as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that you have sent me.

    This was in response to your claim that Jesus and the Father have different commandments when God's WORD teaches they have the same and of one mind and purpose. To say otherwise is to disagree with God's WORD.

    There is no dodge. There is only scripture provided that disagrees with you. If you have scripture that disagrees with your understanding of Gods WORD it should be a warning to you that maybe it is your understanding of God's WORD that is not correct.

    If we do not give our life to Jesus we are not FOLLOWING him...

    Luke 9:23
    And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

    Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

    1 Corinthians 15:31 I protest by your boasting which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

    Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer in it?

    Romans 6:11
    Likewise reckon you also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    I suggest you read Genesis 2:1-3; John 1:3; 1-14; Mark 2:27-28; Matthew 12:8; Romans 11:16-27; Hebrews 8:10-12 all of which disagree with you.

    Gentiles are now grafted in to God's ISRAEL (Romans 11:16-27). If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you are NOT a part of the NEW COVENANT (Hebrews 8:10-12).

    God's WORD disagrees with you.

    God's WORD is not misleading or sophistry it is the truth that sanctifies us or saves us (John 17:17) in those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW it. Those who do not FOLLOW God's WORD are UNBELIEVERS and UNBELIEVERS have no part in God's KINGDOM.

    Not at all. Now your making things up. Please tell me how what you have written is relevant to the section in the post your respnding to? The scriptures from the post you are responding to are John 14:15; Hebrews 8:10-12; Romans 13:8-10. Once again these are God's WORDS not mine. It is your understanding of what the NEW COVENANT is that is the problem. You mix up SHADOWS from the MOSAIC BOOK of ORDINANCES with that which is ETERNAL and the very standard of SIN in the OLD and NEW Covenants and the Judgement to come (Romans 3:20). We are in the NEW COVENANT now but who can you know what the NEW COVENANT is if you do not KNOW what the SHADOWS are that were fulfilled in Christ and what SIN is?

    Indeed many of the laws given to the NATION of Isreal were relavant to the NATION of ISRAEL as a whole. However it is God's WORD that says that Abraham had God's LAW and had a KNOWLEDGE OF SIN (10 Commandments see Genensis 26:5; Romans 3:20).

    Genesis 26:5, Because Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

    No only did ABRAHAM know God's Commandments that give a KNOWLEDGE of SIN which is the pre-requesit for FORGIVENESS of SIN. He had the laws for REMISSION of SIN under the OLD COVENANT which was in SIN offereings (burnt offerings)

    Genesis 22
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    And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it on Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.
    7, And Isaac spoke to Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?
    8, And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

    13, And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.

    Burnt offereings were made for remission of SIN. What is SIN? Sin is disobedience to God's WORD and includes breaking God's Commandments (Romans 7:7; James 2:9-11; 1 John 3:4). It is God's WORD and his LAW that give us a KNOWLEDGE of SIN (Romans 3:20)

    Romans 3
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    Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
    20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

    NOW if GOD tells us that Abraham kept his TORAH (LAWS) then is God's 4th Commandment not part of the TORAH?

    Indeed it is. Where does it say in God's WORD that Abraham or any of God's people before MOSES did NOT Keep God's Sabbath?

    God says Abraham kept TORAH (10 Commandments and sin offereings). You say Abraham DID NOT keep TORAH (This includes God's 4th Commandment). Who do we believe you or God's WORD?

    The purpose of showing what Jesus teaches on God's LAW and LOVE in Matthew 22:36-40 is that you cannot separate LOVE and OBEDIENCE to God's LAW.

    LOVE is the FULFILLING of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE God's WORD. (Romans 13:8-10; John 15:21).

    The scriptures you quote do not agree with you they agree with the scriptures I have presented. If you break God's Commandments it is only showing you do not KNOW Godf and do not LOVE God or another as he first LOVED us and you are deceiving yourself....

    James 1:22 But be you doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

    Romans 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

    Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

    Romans 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

    Rom 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith.

    Don't deceive yourself if you are breaking God's commandments you do not KNOW God or love him....

    1 John 2:3-4, [3] And by this we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
    [4], He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    If you are KNOWINGLY breaking any of God's commandments it is God's WORD that says you do not KNOW him and are not following him and decieving yourself because you do not LOVE him and is why Jesus says; IF you Love me keep my commandments. (John 14:15) because on these two great commandments of LOVE hang all the law and the prophets. Love cannot be separated from OBEDIENCE to God's LAW (Matthew 22:36-40; Romans 13:8-10; Romans 3:31)

    Seems God's WORD disagrees with you.

    Now your making things up I have never said. We are indeed under the NEW COVENANT to LOVE but your understanding of the COVENANTS are the problem and do not agree with the scritpures. We are ONLY saved by GRACE through FAITH and not of ourselves it is a GIFT of God lest any man should boast.

    If your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE then you are still in your SINS because you have rejected God's he GIFT of God's dear son (James 2:18; 20; 26; James 2:8-12). If your tree has no FRUIT then it will be cast down and thrown into the fire (Matt 7:12-23; Hebrews 10:26-27).

    Many do not know why God has given us GRACE and FAITH

    WHAT IS GRACE FOR?

    Romans 1:5, By whom we have received GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH among all nations, for his name.

    Romans 6:1-2, [1] What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. [2], How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

    DOES FAITH ABOLISH GOD'S LAW?

    Romans 3:31, Do we then ABOLISH THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: YES, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW.

    WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE IN SIN ONCE THEY RECEIVE A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH?

    Hebrews 10:26-27 [26], For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, [27], But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

    Indeed, those who CONTINUE IN SIN will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN

    Let's see if you can and look at the scriptures you have quoted and compare scripture with scripture.

    You claim these scriptures you quote separate God's LOVE from OBEDIENCE to God's Commandments. Let's look at each one..

    John 15:10, If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

    How does this scripture separate God's commandments from God's LOVE? The scripture is saying that by keeping God's Commandments you are abiding in God's LOVE. This agrees with what Jesus says; ON THESE TWO GREAT COMMANDMENTS OF LOVE; HANG ALL THE LAW and the prophets (Matthew 22:36-40).

    Well that scripture did not support your claim that you can separate God's LAW from LOVE did it? Seems God's WORD disagrees with you.....

    Next scripture...

    1 John 3:23, And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

    How does this scripture say that God's LAW is separated from LOVE? Once again it does NOT support your claim that these scriptures show you can separate OBEDIENCE to God's LAW from LOVE. The scripture tell is to BELIEVE in JESUS (the WORD) the result is Faith that works by LOVE which is supporting what I have been sharing with you.

    Of interest you should read also the CONTEXT of the 1 John 3:23 in 1 John 3:3-15 which is talking about breaking God's commandments and those that do so are not the children of God and do not KNOW him and those that break God's Commandments are the Children of the devil.

    Well that scripture did not support your claim that you can separate God's LAW from LOVE did it? Seems God's WORD disagrees with you.....

    Lets now look at your final scripture...

    John 1:17, For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

    Once again this scripture is NOT saying that God's LAW is separate to LOVE. What is GRACE and truth for?

    Romans 1:5, By whom we have received GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH among all nations, for his name.

    Well that scripture did not support your claim that you can separate God's LAW from LOVE did it? Seems God's WORD disagrees with you.

    CONCLUSION: NONE of the scritpure you have povided support your claim that OBEDIENCE to God's Commandments is separate from LOVE.

    Well none of that is true whatsoever. Jesus never changed God's Commandments let's have a look at what you just said here and compare it with God's WORD again...

    Jesus makes it very clear what he is talking about in CONTEXT of the sermon of the mount in Matthew 5:17-19 which reads.

    Matthew 5:17-19, [17], Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill (satisfy; to do; to acomplish). [18], For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. (Heaven and Earth have NOT passed away) [19], Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    Seems pretty clear to me unless you want to change the meaning?

    Then you try and reference Luke 24:44 to say this is the meaning of Matthew 5:17-19 even after Jesus had already explained himself in Matthew 5:17-19. Let's look at the scripture..

    Luke 24:44, And he said unto them, These are the words which I spoke unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

    the CONTEXT of this scripture can ve found in v27.

    Luke 24:27, And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

    Q.
    What where all these things written in the law of Moses and in the prophets and in the Psams concerning Jesus?

    Answers:

    Psalms 40:6-10 [6], Sacrifice and offering you did not desire; my ears have you opened: burnt offering and sin offering have you not required. [7], Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, [8], I delight to do your will, O my God: yea, your law is within my heart. [9], I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not restrained my lips, O LORD, you know. [10], I have not hid your righteousness within my heart; I have declared your faithfulness and your salvation: I have not concealed your lovingkindness and your truth from the great congregation.

    John 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he said, Behold the Lamb of God!

    Jesus puts an end to SIN offereings by becoming the lamb of GOD for the SINS of the WORLD. NO more sin offereings from the laws for remission of SIN from the Mosaic BOOK of the COVENANT. It is not talking about God's 10 Commandments.

    The laws of MOSES for remission of SIN all pointed to Jesus and were fulfilled in him at his death. So NO this is not talking about Jesus doing away with the 10 Commandments it is about Jesus fulfilling them as our perfect sacrifice and SIN offereing before GOD and putting an end to the requirements of the laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT for SIN offereings which all pointed to Jesus.

    So nope seems God's WORD disagrees with you once more.

    I do not reject God's WORD it is only your interpretation of it that doea not agree with God's WORD that is rejected.

    You try to claim that Romans 5:13 says that sin was before the law yet the scripture says..

    Romans 5:13, For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

    That is the law and sin were in the world at the same time the Young literal translation of the great is....

    Youngs Literal Greek Translation
    for till law sin was in the world: and sin is not reckoned when there is not law;

    How can you have SIN being before God's LAW when there is no knowledge of it? It is only through the LAW that anyone has a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is (Romans 3:20).

    This also agrees with...

    Romans 4:15 , Because the law works wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

    and again..

    Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God overlooked; but now (when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth is come) commands all men everywhere to repent.

    Then you use 1 John 3:4 which only supports what is being shared with you and that is if you break God's Commandments you commit SIN because SIN is the transgression of God's LAW. This is only supporting what is being shared with you.

    It seems once again God's WORD disagrees with you.

    Well none of that is true. In that day many will come to Jesus professing to be Christian but Jesus will say to them depart from me you who SIN I never knew you (Matthew 7:13-23). This connects with 1 John 2:3-4 which says; He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    Seems you have run out of scripture and are making things up now...

    "DITTO"

    These are God's WORDS not mine I suggest you read them.

    Now listed I only write all the above to you because of genuine concern for your salvation. These are all God's WORDS not my words.

    As you can see your understanding of the scriptures disagree with God's WORD. This should be a warning to you not to condemn you but to help you to have a closer walk with Jesus.

    Now you can choose to BELIEVE God's WORD or not BELIEVE God's WORD. I do not judge you. However it is the WORD of God that will judge us all in the last days (John 12:47-48) and it is Jesus we all need to answer to on the great day of God's judgement for rejecting his Word.

    Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPETNANT SIN will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

    Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow the WORD of GOD over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

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    SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

    Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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    God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

    Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

    There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

    Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

    In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
     
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    So you are refusing to believe that he married the daughter of his own father, making her his sister?

    Unbelievable!
     
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    I'm sorry you can't see Jesus in the Sabbath. Sometimes I wonder what you revere more - the Sabbath or Jesus, Himself. I've got news for you. You are making the Sabbath an idol. And that is not just to you, but every SDA I've ever talked to.
     
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    The point is half or full, it was still against the LAW given 430 years later. So, no, Abraham wasn't given the Ten Commandments or all the other precepts, etc. in the way Bob Ryan keeps implying.

    Abraham BELIEVED God, and THAT is what he followed and obeyed, even to the sacrificing of his own son. Sacrifices were the ONLY thing commanded of them thus far.
     
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    No I cannot can you show me the scripture where is says that says Jesus is a Sabbath?

    All I can find is that the Sabbath is the SEVENTH DAY of the week that God Commands us to keep as a HOLY day and Jesus is the LORD of this day (LORDS DAY) and he made it for mankind to enter into his REST as a memorial of CREATION (Exodus 20:8-11; Mark 2:27-28; Matthew 12:8; Hebrews 3-4)

    Now please show me thes scripture that says Jesus is a Sabbath and the Sabbath is NOT the SEVENTH DAY of the week?

    Are you adding to scripture something that is not in it?
     
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    That is not true as the post you are quoting from already discusses. The MOSAIC BOOK of the law was for the NATION if ISRAEL under the OLD COVENANT. There is NO scriptures in God's WORD that says God's people before MOSES did not have God's LAWS. Yet there are many scripture showing that God's people kept his laws BEFORE MOSES including Abraham.
     
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    Jesus is "Lord of the Sabbath."
    Jesus is the "substance" of the Sabbath.
    The rest of Jesus is concealed in the Sabbath.

    But you can't see it because you made the Sabbath come before Jesus in your life. Jesus is not your Lord, the Sabbath Day is.
     
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    Jesus is the LORD of the SABBATH because he is the creator of the Sabbath (Mark 2:27-28; John 1:1-14).

    Where does it say Jesus is a SABBATH?

    God's WORD ONLY says the SABBATH is the SEVENTH DAY of the CREATION week (Matthew 12:8; Exodus 20:8-11).

    You are indeed adding to scripture. Something we are warned about doing.
     
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    Cain killed his brother, but all that was done to him was he was sent wandering, but was given some kind of mark to protect him. He received no death penalty.
     
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    And you are making the Sabbath Day an IDOL.
     
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    Indded he was punished for his SIN of murder. Read what 1 John 3:3-15 says.
     
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    So I guess that is the best you can come up with and you have no scripture to say Jesus is a Sabbath do you? I thought as much. We are warned about adding to scripture.

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    SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

    Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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    God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

    Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

    There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

    Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

    In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
     
  15. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    He wasn't punished, just classified as wicked. But you can believe what you like, and I will abide in Christ.
     
  16. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    You have no clue as to the real message of Hebrews 4. You think it is all about keeping the 7th day Sabbath as God's rest.
     
  17. LoveGodsWord

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    Seems God's WORD disagress with you again...

    Genesis 4:13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

    Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.
     
  18. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    He lived didn't he?
     
  19. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    You can believe God's WORD or not I do not Judge you..
     
  20. Bob S

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    Actually LGW verse 23 describes what verse 4 means. As you can plainly see John is not describing the 10 commandments. He is describing, for one thing, the law of love. So it is you that cannot support your claim. We already knew that John was not referring to the 10 commandments because they ended at Calvary where Jesus ratified the new covenant with his own blood. Plus Paul verifies this fact in 2Cor 3:7-11.

    If you feel the need to convince anyone that we have to keep the old covenant Sabbath you had better find a better way. So far all your proof texts have all been refuted.

    Boy is it ever fun to highlight and delete.
     
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