Jerry Falwell Jr. will take ‘indefinite leave of absence’ from Liberty University after viral photo

[seeking.IAM]

I don't believe it. Some like to add to when someone is being torn down.

Apparently it was a theme related to some Canadian TV thing. I don't know about that show, but you can read about the account here and see what the party video was named that they took down. You probably won't believe that either.

 

[Blade]

Not here to offend.. not sure why some come to this site but.. for me things like this.. I would be posting for PRAYER for the man. Why? Well like Jesus said.. treat others the way you want to be treated...

So I would want my FAMILY to help me.. pray for me. We all fall at times.. Who's there to pick us up? Don't be like the world. We pray agree together for him his family.. all. show mercy grace forgiveness.. like Christ shows us every time we fall

 

[returntosender]

Apparently it was a theme related to some Canadian TV thing. I don't know about that show, but you can read about the account here and see what the party video was named that they took down. You probably won't believe that either.

You're right, people thrive on gossip.

 

[Dave L]

I don't believe it. Some like to add to when someone is being torn down.

How many hypocrites has God exposed over the years? This is just one more for the list.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Jerry Falwell Jr. will take ‘indefinite leave of absence’ from Liberty University after viral photo

tulc(thought this was interesting)

Yes, some love to see them go down.
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[iluvatar5150]

While the photo was in poor taste, the punitive nature of the reaction exposes a major problem within the evangelical world. Lack of forgiveness and desire to punish people is a huge Biblical error and one evangelicals need to correct. We're talking about one picture here, one which was intended as a joke between friends.

If that were true, I would agree with you, but we aren't talking about one picture. This is essentially the straw that broke the camel's back. This came out last year and there have been other incidents since:

‘Someone’s Gotta Tell the Freakin’ Truth’: Jerry Falwell’s Aides Break Their Silence

 

[JohnDB]

Yeah...
We were all hoping for something other than what is apparent.

But it looks like we got Gideon's son instead of David's son...

And that's a shame. But yeah...he is going to have to resign and walk away with lots and lots of money. (How many millions does a person need anyway?)

 

[Redwingfan9]

If that were true, I would agree with you, but we aren't talking about one picture. This is essentially the straw that broke the camel's back. This came out last year and there have been other incidents since:

‘Someone’s Gotta Tell the Freakin’ Truth’: Jerry Falwell’s Aides Break Their Silence

I'm not going to sit around defending Falwell jr. However that article is nothing but a hit piece full of gossip and precious little first hand information. The notion that "self dealing" is some sort of sin is asinine. Show me in scripture where a father is forbidden from passing work along to his son or other family members. That an increasingly godless America doesn't like it doesn't mean that God disapproves.

If Falwell is committing some sin, Matthew 18 should be followed. He should not be tried by Christians in the secular press.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I'm not going to sit around defending Falwell jr. However that article is nothing but a hit piece full of gossip and precious little first hand information.

Yeah, except for all of the direct quotes and documents cited.

The notion that "self dealing" is some sort of sin is asinine. Show me in scripture where a father is forbidden from passing work along to his son or other family members. That an increasingly godless America doesn't like it doesn't mean that God disapproves.

lol, what? It would be one thing if this were purely a private, for-profit business, but Falwell runs (ran) a large charitable organization that is required to manage itself in certain ways in order to be eligible for certain legal and tax advantages. You're not allowed to use a charity to just enrich yourself and your family members - that's why the Trump Foundation was shut down.

If Falwell is committing some sin, Matthew 18 should be followed. He should not be tried by Christians in the secular press.

Matthew 18 both provides an avenue to bring a case to the broader church and fails to address the case in which the accused wields significant power over those who would bring complaints or stand witness against him.

 

[Redwingfan9]

Yeah, except for all of the direct quotes and documents cited.



lol, what? It would be one thing if this were purely a private, for-profit business, but Falwell runs (ran) a large charitable organization that is required to manage itself in certain ways in order to be eligible for certain legal and tax advantages. You're not allowed to use a charity to just enrich yourself and your family members - that's why the Trump Foundation was shut down.



Matthew 18 both provides an avenue to bring a case to the broader church and fails to address the case in which the accused wields significant power over those who would bring complaints or stand witness against him.

I don't think we can assume to know more than God, who gave us Matthew 18 to deal with problems in the church, including accusations against the powerful.

As for family dealing, hiring your son to manage a mall is not indicative of corruption unless the mall doesn't exist or something along those lines. The rules on non-profits aren't that much different than for-profits, as evidenced by places like Goodwill that give less than 10% to charity. In Liberty University's case, they're providing an education of sorts to thousands of people so they're fulfilling their mission in that regard.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I don't think we can assume to know more than God, who gave us Matthew 18 to deal with problems in the church, including accusations against the powerful.

The problems with Falwell aren't merely within the church.

As for family dealing, hiring your son to manage a mall is not indicative of corruption unless the mall doesn't exist or something along those lines. The rules on non-profits aren't that much different than for-profits, as evidenced by places like Goodwill that give less than 10% to charity. In Liberty University's case, they're providing an education of sorts to thousands of people so they're fulfilling their mission in that regard.

Directors of a non-profit have a duty to protect and prioritize the interests of the organization.
Fiduciary Responsibility of Nonprofit Boards - CharityLawyer Blog

As the article puts it, hiring your kids, rather than professionals, to manage things is a red flag.

 

[Redwingfan9]

The problems with Falwell aren't merely within the church.



Directors of a non-profit have a duty to protect and prioritize the interests of the organization.
Fiduciary Responsibility of Nonprofit Boards - CharityLawyer Blog

As the article puts it, hiring your kids, rather than professionals, to manage things is a red flag.

I'm an attorney, I understand fiduciary responsibilities. That said, we have no idea what experience his kids have and whether they're qualified for the jobs they were given. Assuming they aren't qualified is uncharitable. Reagan used to say "trust but verify." I think that applies here.

 

[Michie]

The Decline and Fall of Jerry Falwell

 

[iluvatar5150]

The Decline and Fall of Jerry Falwell

Oh wow, I hadn't heard the audio of his explanation of the picture. That's quite a lot worse than the transcript.

 

[Michie]

Oh wow, I hadn't heard the audio of his explanation of the picture. That's quite a lot worse than the transcript.

Pretty lame.

 

[A_JAY]

August 24: Falwell releases statement. His wife's affair put stress on him and caused mental health issues.
The Board on Friday August 21 and agreed to the previously ratified agreement and indicated Falwell's future with Liberty University has not been decided.

Falwell releases statement, claims wife's affair led to mental health issues - Baptist Press

 

[Michie]

August 24: Falwell releases statement. His wife's affair put stress on him and caused mental health issues.
The Board on Friday August 21 and agreed to the previously ratified agreement and indicated Falwell's future with Liberty University has not been decided.

Falwell releases statement, claims wife's affair led to mental health issues - Baptist Press

Yep. Not his fault at all...

 

[Redwingfan9]

Yep. Not his fault at all...

How would it be his fault if his wife committed adultery?

 

[Michie]

How would it be his fault if his wife committed adultery?

The guy needs to own his own responsibility for his actions. Stop pointing at the wife because he acted stupidly.

 

[Michie]

Falwell Jr claims wife's illicit affair and 'fatal attraction' situation threatened to ruin family