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Jehovah's Witnesses Banned In Moscow

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by lared, Mar 26, 2004.

  1. lared

    lared Active Member

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3573721.stm
     
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  2. jameseb

    jameseb Smite me, O Mighty Smiter!

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    All I can say is.... good. ;)
     
  3. the_malevolent_milk_man

    the_malevolent_milk_man Well-Known Member

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    I can see banning them from going door to door, that's just annoying, but an outright ban is uncalled for.
     
  4. feral

    feral Dostoyevsky was right

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    I love having Jehovah's Witnesses come to the door. There are *so* many pranks you can play...
     
  5. lared

    lared Active Member

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    Bans on Jehovah's Witnesses always backfire. More interest and a desire to understand their beliefs more thoroughly, is generated.

    Their preaching of the good news of the Kingdom as prophesied at Matthew 24:14 will continue with letup.

    The childish pranks played by the Russian Orthodox Church will not go unoticed by the true God Jehovah.
     
  6. Douglaangu

    Douglaangu Dance Commander

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    I live opposite their church, and they're not all bad.
    Certainly well dressed.
     
  7. MediocrityInAction

    MediocrityInAction Anti-Humanist

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    I don't mind them at all. So long as they are willing to accept 'no' for an answer, and don't visit that often, I can live with them. However, malicious or persistent unsolicited visitations can quickly become irritating.
     
  8. Glacial

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    I agree. Now we just need to ban the Christians, and we'll be well on our way! ;)
     
  9. jameseb

    jameseb Smite me, O Mighty Smiter!

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    Nah, ban Atheism and and you'll no longer have them coming to something called 'Christian Forums' looking for, uhm, 'conversation.' Yeah, that's what its called by you guys I think. ;)

    As for the topic, I'm Orthodox, so maybe that's why I have a lil' bias in regards to the Witness's. :p
     
  10. AsburyJuke

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    Banning them might be a good thing.. I'm sure they put more people off religion than they convert.

    It's like double glazing salespeople, when you want windows you'll make the call yourself. Sure a few will buy, but many who were thinking about it will be put off out of irritation.

    Besides, it's not safe - a lot of people use ploys like that to get into homes and rob people. A man's home is his castle.
     
  11. HisEagle

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    Just for the record, Jehovah's Witnesses aren't the only Christian group that goes door to door. In fact, I've been visited more by people of non-denominational Christian churches than I ever have the Witnesses. Although I WILL admit one time they came up to me while I was sitting in my car in the parking lot where I work! I thought that was really odd.

    I generally don't mind the Witnesses. In fact, my aunt and uncle are Witnesses. JWs can be some of the nicest, well mannered, well dressed people I know. That doesn't mean I agree with all their beliefs, but it honestly is no different than a Baptist disagreeing with a Catholic.
     
  12. Marissa

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    I'm surprised at how many people are supporting this. I'm not a JW, I don't agree with the teachings of JW, but to ban them is simple wrong. Any of you ever heard of freedom of religion? Obviously they don't have that in Russia, but that is NOT a good thing. For those of us who are christian, many of us complain about how christians are treated in Islamic countries. How we're not free to worship our God, and to let others know of who we worship, yet you want to deny the same right to JW's.

    Hypocrites, the lot of you.
     
  13. HisEagle

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    I beg your pardon. I certainly hope you are not including me in that "lot".
     
  14. Memes

    Memes Just a thought !

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    False prophets should be excluded wherever they are found out, it's our god given job.

    memes
     
  15. ufonium2

    ufonium2 Seriously, stop killing kids.

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    Anyone here think it's fair to deny a child a life-saving blood transfusion because the parents don't believe in it? Freedom of religion extends only until it infringes on someone else's rights. For instance, if I start a religion that calls for a weekly carjacking, my church isn't going to be allowed to carjack someone every Thursday just because we are a church. You can't commit neglegent homicide of children just because you are a church either.

    The article is misleading. Catholicism wasn't listed as an allowed religion in Russia, but there are Catholic churches there. Notice there were three non-Christian religions officially allowed as well. So, it's not a vast Orthodox conspiracy to do away with any and all heterodox churches. Maybe instead of jumping to that conclusion, they could have taken the court's word for their reasoning behind the decision.
     
  16. Blessed75

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    Oh whatever - anyone ever heard of freedom of speech? Just b/c you don't agree with them and just b/c you don't believe in what they believe, doesn't mean they should be banned. IMO - that is just WRONG. If that's the case, let's ban all the things in the world that we don't agree with............
     
  17. rahma

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    I always find it a bit humorous when christian missionaries go to Russia. My russian connections always say, "We've been Christian for more then 1000 years. Are you joking?" *snorts and giggles* (of course, imagine that with a thick russian accent).

    These competing forms of christianity are dizzying. And I must confess, if I had not accepted Islam, I probably would have become orthodox. Tradition tradition tradition. (not that this is an invitation to convert me, of course)
     
  18. lared

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    Anyone here think it's fair to abort a living baby in a womb? (What was the religion of those that passed that law?)

    Anyone here think it's fair to raise your child with the expectation of him or her of becoming a soldier, so that they can kill and wound other people? (What is the religion of those that do?)

    Anyone here think it's fair for parents to smoke cigarrettes in the presence of their children? (What is the religion of those that do?)

    Anyone here think it's fair to circumcise a baby boy or girl? (What is the religion of those that do?)

    Anyone here think it's fair to strap explosives to a teenage child and send him off into a crowd? (What is the religion of those that do?)

    Etc, etc.

    Just ban all religions?
     
  19. lared

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    Who are the false prophets?
    Moslems? Jews? Hindus? Mormons? Buddhists? Christian Scientists? Bai Hai?
    Greek Othodox?

    Should they be excluded in your country? Do you actively engage in worldly politics to outlaw religious groups that you do not agree with?

    Get rid of them all, but keep M-TV?
     
  20. Marissa

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    No. I thought it was fairly clear that I was addressing those who supported the ban.

    That "lot" are hypocrites.
     
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