Jackson County, North Carolina, Leaders Vote to Keep Confederate Statue in Sylva — With Changes

[GenemZ]

If so, why didn't slavery end before the Civil War and why did Southern States constantly vote in pro-slave Congressmen to send to Washington ?

You ask that question? Just take a look at congress today.

As Lincoln once said... "You can fool some of the people all of the time."

Maybe there was no other way for it to end. For, some of the most ignorant, bigoted b_stards I have ever came in contact with were from the south. Only a very few mind you. But, unbelievably stupid and proud. But, when living up north, I came in contact with dangerous naive people who can add up to being equally dangerous to our national well being.

Only the Truth will make you free.

 

[GenemZ]

The aftermath certainly wasn't all rainbows and kittens, but the north tried to extend a bunch of healing gestures while the South took every opportunity they could to further subjugate blacks. And again, if the South wanted a peaceful transition, they could've asked for one instead of starting a war.

They were not ready to. And, after facing the humiliation of losing the war, it caused them to dig in their heels even more so. They lost the lives of their brothers over this issue.

Look how Germany came back with even greater resolve after losing WWl. The south was not going down easy. The industrialized north was walking and breathing in a different culture. And, had equally arrogant amongst them.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Liberia was the best option. All expenses paid by the US government...

That program only lasted for a couple years and didn't extend past the end of the war, so it wouldn't have been much good to the freed slaves from the south.

The slaves in the south after being freed needed to go through their own kind of wilderness experience.. For many slaves became Christians. They needed to suffer to come out of their slave mentality... just like we all do after we are made freed slaves having been slaves to our sin natures before our spiritual emancipation.

lol wut? What makes you think they were stuck in a “slave mentality” (which I assume refers to some sort of dependence)?

 

[GenemZ]

That program only lasted for a couple years and didn't extend past the end of the war, so it wouldn't have been much good to the freed slaves from the south.

Why not? What makes you say that? The Marine Corps were revived by Thomas Jefferson after they were abandoned earlier. It turned out to be a great idea. The plan for Liberia should have been placed back on the table as an option of choice for the freed slaves.Especially now that all slaves had been made free, unlike before when many were not freed.

lol wut? What makes you think they were stuck in a “slave mentality” (which I assume refers to some sort of dependence)?

Its what the Jews suffered with after being conditioned by slavery. Its what caused their stupid arrogance when confronted by God's authority through Moses. God was not politically correct. He simply wiped them out all over the wilderness for forty years.

"Nevertheless, God was not pleased with the great majority of them,
for they were overthrown and strewn down along [the ground] in the
wilderness." 1 Cor 10:5​

Out of all the adult Jews that left Egypt? Only Joshua and Caleb and their families lived to enter the promised land. It was the younger generation who listened to Moses who entered. For they were not brought up with the slave mentality, and preferred Moses thinking over that of their belligerent and and arrogant parents.... God made the transition out from the slave mentality very quick. He just killed them all off in one period of forty years in the wilderness. Those who listened to the Word of God lived to see the promise.

Today the slave mentality is manifested as follows...

The slave mentality is still very much among us. A class of people
have emerged in this country who put forth minimal effort knowing
the master will take care of them (the government). As more and
more people become addicted to entitlements, they become more
apathetic and less likely to work.

Those imbued with the slave mentality do not simply want something
for nothing, they expect it. Whereas they are content to perform simple
labor, they expect their master, the federal government, to provide for
their housing, welfare, health care, and other amenities. ​

Today's Slave Mentality - An interesting theory of how people behave in this country. | Newstalk Florida - N

 

[JimR-OCDS]

You ask that question? Just take a look at congress today.

As Lincoln once said... "You can fool some of the people all of the time."

Maybe there was no other way for it to end. For, some of the most ignorant, bigoted b_stards I have ever came in contact with were from the south. Only a very few mind you. But, unbelievably stupid and proud. But, when living up north, I came in contact with dangerous naive people who can add up to being equally dangerous to our national well being.

Only the Truth will make you free.

So you want to jump all over the calendar to justify your argument.

 

[GenemZ]

So you want to jump all over the calendar to justify your argument.

If I am jumping its only to avoid stepping in the doo-doo some keep laying down around here.

You ask me question. So, me answered you. Uggg!... You no like answer Kemosabe. Me see you have no logical response. Uggg!

 

[Yarddog]

From the article:

Jackson County commissioners voted Tuesday to keep a Confederate statue in front of the historic courthouse in Sylva, but they also agreed to some changes. That decision is getting plenty of reaction.

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In an era of racial tension, the Confederate statue known as “Sylva Sam” overlooking the town is sparking debate. Sylva leaders sent Jackson County commissioners a resolution asking for its removal from the old county courthouse, out of town limits.

“I made a motion that we deny Sylva’s request,” Commission Chairman Brian McMahan said.

McMahan was part of a 4-1 vote Tuesday night to keep the statue where it is. But he said the board also agreed to an amendment.

“We are going to add a plaque to the front of the statue base covering up the Confederate flag with a list of Jackson County’s involvement in the Civil War,” he said. “Our ‘Heroes of the Confederacy’ will be removed from the base.”

McMahan said it’s a compromise.

{snip}

The president of the local NAACP said he would have preferred the statue’s removal. But, he said, he sees the compromise, too, reworking the statue’s context. He said questions will remain.

{snip}

Original article: Jackson County leaders vote to keep Confederate statue in Sylva -- with changes

Compromise is great.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

If I am jumping its only to avoid stepping in the doo-doo some keep laying down around here.

You ask me question. So, me answered you. Uggg!... You no like answer Kemosabe. Me see you have no logical response. Uggg!

You're jumping because you have no answer to the questions that are specific to what took place before and after the Civil War, concerning slavery and the treatment of blacks in the South right through to the Civil Rights Act which wasn't signed until 1964.

 

[GenemZ]

You're jumping because you have no answer to the questions that are specific to what took place before and after the Civil War, concerning slavery and the treatment of blacks in the South right through to the Civil Rights Act which wasn't signed until 1964.

I am concentrating on what happened to our Constitutional Republic. You are concerned about details only, and not how (however it happened) led to the break down of states rights. We are not concentrating on the same things.

Power mad liberals always scream not to let any crisis go to waste... This issue with slavery was used to break down the principle of states rights. It was an excuse to grab more centralized power. It was an attempt to invert what happened with the Tower of Babel. God wants men autonomous and choosing to assemble as a whole, only when needed for security preparation and for times of war.

At the close of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787,
as Benjamin Franklin left the hall in Philadelphia, he was asked,
“What kind of government have you given us, Dr. Franklin?”

He replied: “A republic, if you can keep it.”​

.......

 

[JimR-OCDS]

I am concentrating on what happened to our Constitutional Republic. You are concerned about details only, and not how (however it happened) led to the break down of states rights. We are not concentrating on the same things.

Power mad liberals always scream not to let any crisis go to waste... This issue with slavery was used to break down the principle of states rights. It was an excuse to grab more centralized power. It was an attempt to invert what happened with the Tower of Babel. God wants men autonomous and choosing to assemble as a whole, only when needed for security preparation and for times of war.

At the close of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787,
as Benjamin Franklin left the hall in Philadelphia, he was asked,
“What kind of government have you given us, Dr. Franklin?”

He replied: “A republic, if you can keep it.”​

.......

The only states right that was lost was legalized slavery which wasn't an inalienable right.

The issue today is federal funding, which the feds hold purse strings on. Do as they say or have the funding withheld.

But it wasn't the feds who did that so much as the individual states who begged for federal funding for highways and other pet projects. Well, when you go to the well, the well owner is going to expect repayment of some form.

 

[GenemZ]

The only states right that was lost was legalized slavery which wasn't an inalienable right.

The issue today is federal funding, which the feds hold purse strings on. Do as they say or have the funding withheld.

But it wasn't the feds who did that so much as the individual states who begged for federal funding for highways and other pet projects. Well, when you go to the well, the well owner is going to expect repayment of some form.

So, that made it right?

At the close of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787,
as Benjamin Franklin left the hall in Philadelphia, he was asked,
“What kind of government have you given us, Dr. Franklin?”

He replied: “A republic, if you can keep it.”​

Carl Marx loved working with democracy. Some of the founding fathers referred to a democracy as a "mob"-ocracy." We have evolved more and more into a democracy, more than our founding fathers ever wished upon us.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

So, that made it right?

At the close of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787,
as Benjamin Franklin left the hall in Philadelphia, he was asked,
“What kind of government have you given us, Dr. Franklin?”

He replied: “A republic, if you can keep it.”​

Carl Marx loved working with democracy. Some of the founding fathers referred to a democracy as a "mob"-ocracy." We have evolved more and more into a democracy, more than our founding fathers ever wished upon us.

The right to slavery was right according to you ?

No, no state had the right to buy and sell human beings

 

[GenemZ]

The right to slavery was right according to you ?

Do you still beat your wife?

Why did God exile the Jews into slavery for seventy years during the Babylonian captivity?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Do you still beat your wife?

Why did God exile the Jews into slavery for seventy years during the Babylonian captivity?

You're the one who defended states rights which was the reason for keeping slavery legal in slave states and the civil war.

What the Jewish history has to do with this beyond me.

 

[GenemZ]

You're the one who defended states rights which was the reason for keeping slavery legal in slave states and the civil war.

What the Jewish history has to do with this beyond me.

It is beyond you. God put the Jews into slavery. God did. Not man.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

It is beyond you. God put the Jews into slavery. God did. Not man.

Ancient theology thought this way, but it was man who put the Jews into slavery, not God.

In fact, the evils in the world are committed by men, not God.

However, the Islamic Radicals believe they're suffering because they're being punished by God for not following his word, so they're trying to atone for it, believing God will like them more.

Is this the way you believe, that God punishes those who disobey him ?

God didn't send Jesus into the world to change his mind about men, but to change men's minds about God.

 

[GenemZ]

Ancient theology thought this way, but it was man who put the Jews into slavery, not God.

Good bye , sir.