It's been really quiet poll

[awitch]

I voted "Topic exhaustion".

I did, too.
When it comes to my own beliefs, I don't mind answering sincere questions but it seems like others prefer to insist I'm just wrong. Everyone else has already heard my answers after 10+ years.

Other times it feels like I'm talking to a wall when they say no amount of evidence will change their mind about any topi, so what's the point?

I'm spending much more time in furry and ornithological settings now.

 

[timothyu]

If they didn't get it the first
hundred times I explained it, they'll likely not get it now. Life
goes on.

You just haven't met your David with the slingshot yet

 

[Rajni]

You just haven't met your David with the slingshot yet

Well, what's taking him so long?

It might seem that way until I find that
I'm the one holding the slingshot,
with fallen giants all around me.


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[timothyu]

It might seem that way until I find that
I'm the one holding the slingshot,
with fallen giants all around me.

Did not David fall due to vanity?

 

[Lord Give Me A Sign]

I think we could use a better sports section here

 

[timothyu]

I think we could use a better sports section here

Team Jesus vs Team Christianity, the super bowl?

 

[Rajni]

Did not David fall due to vanity?

Is there anyone who hasn't, from time to time?
But I think we're straying from the point of the thread.
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[timothyu]

As posts seem to drop of in evenings, at least in North America, and on weekends and revive on Mondays, it would seem a lot use work time to log on. Perhaps a decline in posts indicates jobs lost or outside access to internet being cut off or monitored leaving them with not enough interest to be bothered on their own time?

 

[Zoness]

Yeah I'm swamped managing and developing my application at work and in the evenings there's more fun stuff to do then argue about Christianity and conservative politics all night lol.

 

[TheOldWays]

Yeah I'm swamped managing and developing my application at work and in the evenings there's more fun stuff to do then argue about Christianity and conservative politics all night lol.

i think we've uncovered every avenue of the debate hehe.

and arguing about politics doesn't ever lead anywhere good. but you know that good sir.

 

[cloudyday2]

I've decided to stop posting for several reasons:

(1) I tend to become obsessed with certain thoughts and a need for affirmation of my thoughts. I write something and then what I write repeats endlessly in my brain, and I check to see if anybody read what I wrote. Then I begin to regret writing what I wrote. All of this distracts me from my real life. ... On the other hand, sometimes I NEED a distraction from my real life. Sometimes I feel extremely depressed or foggy-minded, and organizing my thoughts in writing is extremely helpful psychologically. So there are two sides to it.

(2) Rather than question exhaustion, for me it is answer exhaustion. I still have many questions on religion and spirituality. I wish I could be a metaphysical naturalist atheist, but I have too many weird experiences. So I wish I could get some answers to explain these experiences, but I don't know how to ask my questions and I don't know if anybody has answers. My questions involve magic(k) and paranormal, but most religious people seem to be as spiritually close-minded as any atheist. It puzzles me. Why do religious people believe a religious tradition while scoffing at the possibility of contemporary experiences of phenomena that constitute most religions? And even if somebody here has the answers, I cannot seem to put my questions into words.

(3) Over the past couple of years I have begun to sense more hostility from the Christian members - particularly in the stricter enforcement of rules. When I joined CF about 10 years ago the World Religions forum was very interesting. As long as I didn't ridicule Christians or Christianity it seemed that I could post freely. Now the same types of posts result in deleted threads and warnings. On top of that, I sense hostility. I don't want to be an irritant.

 

[Robban]

I've decided to stop posting for several reasons:

(1) I tend to become obsessed with certain thoughts and a need for affirmation of my thoughts. I write something and then what I write repeats endlessly in my brain, and I check to see if anybody read what I wrote. Then I begin to regret writing what I wrote. All of this distracts me from my real life. ... On the other hand, sometimes I NEED a distraction from my real life. Sometimes I feel extremely depressed or foggy-minded, and organizing my thoughts in writing is extremely helpful psychologically. So there are two sides to it.

(2) Rather than question exhaustion, for me it is answer exhaustion. I still have many questions on religion and spirituality. I wish I could be a metaphysical naturalist atheist, but I have too many weird experiences. So I wish I could get some answers to explain these experiences, but I don't know how to ask my questions and I don't know if anybody has answers. My questions involve magic(k) and paranormal, but most religious people seem to be as spiritually close-minded as any atheist. It puzzles me. Why do religious people believe a religious tradition while scoffing at the possibility of contemporary experiences of phenomena that constitute most religions? And even if somebody here has the answers, I cannot seem to put my questions into words.

(3) Over the past couple of years I have begun to sense more hostility from the Christian members - particularly in the stricter enforcement of rules. When I joined CF about 10 years ago the World Religions forum was very interesting. As long as I didn't ridicule Christians or Christianity it seemed that I could post freely. Now the same types of posts result in deleted threads and warnings. On top of that, I sense hostility. I don't want to be an irritant.

I feel many times that I am wasting precious time by
being on a forum.

But here is something from the Rebbe,

It,s a paradox.
The greatest revelations are to be found not in meditation, study a prayer,
but in the mundane world...........but only if you would
rather be meditating, studying, and praying.

Also, what is the use of studying if it is not put into practice?

Dunno if this is to any help.

Good to see you make an appearence.

 

[MehGuy]

I've decided to stop posting for several reasons:

(1) I tend to become obsessed with certain thoughts and a need for affirmation of my thoughts. I write something and then what I write repeats endlessly in my brain, and I check to see if anybody read what I wrote. Then I begin to regret writing what I wrote. All of this distracts me from my real life. ... On the other hand, sometimes I NEED a distraction from my real life. Sometimes I feel extremely depressed or foggy-minded, and organizing my thoughts in writing is extremely helpful psychologically. So there are two sides to it.

I can relate. These past few months my mind has been foggy, coupled with being very emotional I can post pretty strange things I'll regret later. Lol.

(3) Over the past couple of years I have begun to sense more hostility from the Christian members - particularly in the stricter enforcement of rules. When I joined CF about 10 years ago the World Religions forum was very interesting. As long as I didn't ridicule Christians or Christianity it seemed that I could post freely. Now the same types of posts result in deleted threads and warnings. On top of that, I sense hostility. I don't want to be an irritant.

I hear this from people, although from my personal experience I don't find this place too hostile. Than again, I don't really mind hostile environments so maybe I'm a little blind regarding how others feel. Most of the posters seem to just leave me alone, rather than engage though.. lol.

 

[timothyu]

Most of the posters seem to just leave me alone, rather than engage though.. lol.

OH YEAH !?

 

[cloudyday2]

I feel many times that I am wasting precious time by
being on a forum.

But here is something from the Rebbe,

It,s a paradox.
The greatest revelations are to be found not in meditation, study a prayer,
but in the mundane world...........but only if you would
rather be meditating, studying, and praying.

Also, what is the use of studying if it is not put into practice?

Dunno if this is to any help.

Good to see you make an appearence.

I wonder what the Rebbe meant exactly. God seems to respond to me when I am feeling extreme anger towards God or extreme religious confusion rather than when I am peacefully praying. (Of course it might be only my imagination.)

I think the Rebbe was saying something different, but I am not certain what.

 

[Robban]

I wonder what the Rebbe meant exactly. God seems to respond to me when I am feeling extreme anger towards God or extreme religious confusion rather than when I am peacefully praying. (Of course it might be only my imagination.)

I think the Rebbe was saying something different, but I am not certain what.

Well, what is a revelation, is it not when something is revealed, something that has been there all the time
but first now I have seen it, have had it revealed.

The greatest revelations are found in the mundane world, says the Rebbe.

Though one may rather be praying, studying and meditating.


For every piece of Torah one learns, one must find a way to apply it to today, in the world, because that is where we are.

I do not know if that was his meaning but it is what I get from it.

I know that if I did not have something else to do, I would go insane, or worse,
smell of spiritual haughtiness.

 

[cloudyday2]

Well, what is a revelation, is it not when something is revealed, something that has been there all the time
but first now I have seen it, have had it revealed.

The greatest revelations are found in the mundane world, says the Rebbe.

Though one may rather be praying, studying and meditating.


For every piece of Torah one learns, one must find a way to apply it to today, in the world, because that is where we are.

I do not know if that was his meaning but it is what I get from it.

I know that if I did not have something else to do, I would go insane, or worse,
smell of spiritual haughtiness.

That makes sense. It is like reading about how to dance disco and actually doing the John Travolta moves for yourself. You say "aha, that is why I need to wear pants that stretch"

 

[Robban]

That makes sense. It is like reading about how to dance disco and actually doing the John Travolta moves for yourself. You say "aha, that is why I need to wear pants that stretch"

Otherwise you may reveal more than you wish to reveal.
Haha.

 

[timothyu]

Otherwise you may reveal more than you wish to reveal.

That was the idea back in the disco days

 

[Robban]

That was the idea back in the disco days

When were the disco days, 70,s?

Idk, but I have seen a picture of John Travolta,
that,s about it.