Daniel Marsh said:
Romans 14
Easy-to-Read Version
14 Be willing to accept those who still have doubts about what believers can do. And don’t argue with them about their different ideas. 2
Some people believe they can eat any kind of food, but those who have doubts eat only vegetables. 3
Those who know they can eat any kind of food must not feel that they are better than those who eat only vegetables. And those who eat only vegetables must not decide that those who eat all foods are wrong. God has accepted them. 4 You cannot judge the servants of someone else. Their own master decides if they are doing right or wrong. And the Lord’s servants will be right, because the Lord is able to make them right.
PETA propaganda is not acceptable in this discussion.
Before the flood it is possible some people only ate vegetables. Beef Jerky has been found in Archeological sites that could predate Noah --- I do not know for sure.
https://cen.acs.org/articles/91/i47/Mummified-Beef-Jerky-Found-Pyramids.html#:~:text=USA-,Preserved beef found in the tomb of Egyptian Queen Tiye,University of Bristol's Richard P.
Pyramids and Protein « Ancient Egypt Research Associates
"Constructed between 2589 and 2504 B.C., the
Egyptian pyramids of Khufu, Khafre and Menkaure, built in that order, are a testament to ancient planning and engineering."
Pyramids of Giza & the Sphinx | Live Science
I do not know if those pyramids were built before or after the flood.
You clearly posted for this new thread when your argument with me was closed (for being off-topic). And my saying anything about it was for showing one example that revelation is progressive.
None of this counters what I said, still, you just made strawman arguments, and do not follow the passage you yourself post to others, don't argue with them about their different ideas.
You had said to me, "In some of your posts you have parroted arguments from Peta, including their interpretation of scripture. Research by the courts into claims of peta about industry farms mistreating animals has proven the peta claims to be false. The videoes of abuse of animals comes from Peta. You do give me the impression that you can not accept the fact that many people today eat meat. And, you do give the impression that you are judging meat eaters."
None of that really applied to any of what I said, and I did tell you that then. I did not know about any of what points PETA said when I chose a vegan way many years ago, actually with much prayer, and still nothing of PETA was involved when I found the Forks Over Knives way of the the healthiest way to eat, five years ago now. Your responses show you just don't look at any video, and I do not show anything from PETA, you just have an axe to grind with them and assume anything I say must be derived from them, which it was not, and regardless what information there is on PETA, my points stand, even if you dismiss them and disregard what I have said. I have not told you how you are supposed to eat, and it was not about if how you eat is permissive to Christians. Any of many things are permitted, but that is irrelevant to what is better, and that is what I speak about.
Eggs and dairy are not even healthy, those industries cannot even claim it with basis. And optimal health does not depend on animal products. There is not mere survival without animal products, people thrive without those. Anyone should get vitamin B12 supplements if they just get store bought food, it is too easy to not get enough otherwise, whether having animal products or not. This vitamin is only produced from some soil bacteria, animals and people can get the vitamin from food they get in natural environments, but any of the bacteria for it or the vitamin are missing from what animals used in the industry are fed.
In the Bible, no one was permitted meat from animals until after the global flood over fifteen hundred years after the first human people were cast away from the garden of Eden, though some wicked people probably started having meat when sacrifices of animals were happening.
Using marketed animal products is much worse, with animal agriculture being very destructive to the natural world and the global climate, and its use of a lot more resources.
God did not create sentient animal creatures in this world to just use as food continuously, they desire to live too, and feel and have terror of their oncoming death, use of food from them is NOT better for our health, and it is using a lot more resources and is worse for the environment. It simply is not according to the perfect will of God and God is not intending for use of animals for food to last, there are scriptures showing this and none showing it was to keep continuing.
See
www.forksoverknives.com,
Plant-Based Diets and Environmental Sustainability.
Modern pioneers like T. Colin Cambell, PhD; Caldwell Esselstyn, MD; Dean Ornish, MD; John McDougall, MD; Neal Barnard, MD; and others are leading the charge. Thanks to these doctors and researchers, along with an emerging body of scientific evidence from all corners, we now know that a whole-food, plant-based diet is more powerful at preventing and treating chronic diseases than any medication or procedure. We are so convinced by the evidence that we believe if this diet came in a pill, it would be heralded on the front pages of newspapers and magazines around the world for its effectiveness.
Here are just a few of the significant life-changing results you may expect:
Prevent and reverse the leading chronic ailments. A whole-food, plant-based diet can prevent, halt, and even reverse heart disease and diabetes. Other diseases that are also positively impacted by this type of diet include: high cholesterol, high blood pressure, obesity, and overall mortality. Cancer is also significantly affected by this diet. In fact, the foods that make up this diet are the exact same foods that were recommended in the first "surviving cancer" dietary recommendations. There is also evidence that a plant-based diet may reduce the risk of diverticular disease, gallstones, rheumatoid arthritis, gout, and kidney disease. Furthermore, after switching to a plant-based diet, people routinely report experiencing or seeing in others improvements in a range of ailments, including osteoporosis, arthritis, headaches, acne, asthma, sexual dysfunction, reflux, lupus, inflammatory bowel disease, constipation, irritable bowel syndrome, dementia, Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, infertility, insomnia, and sleep apnea. They even find themselves experiencing fewer or less intense colds, viruses, and allergies.
Reach your ideal weight. Our friend Doug Lisle likes to point out that humans and their domesticated pets are the only earthly creatures that suffer from being overweight and obese ... in spite of the fact that we're also the only creatures who practice portion control! Why is this the case? It's simple. All the other animals on earth are eating foods that are appropriate for their species. If we also eat foods that are appropriate for our species -- whole, plant-based foods -- then we, too, will be able to eat without portion control and will naturally reach a comfortable weight.
Improve mental clarity Eating a whole-food, plant-based diet improves cognitive function and protects against dementia and Alzheimer's disease. Most people experience greater clarity of thought, improved ability to concentrate, and better memory.
Experience only positive effects, not "side effects". These can include better mood, sounder sleep, improved bowel function, and more vibrant skin. You will have more energy to do the things you love, like playing with your children or grandchildren, biking, gardening, walking, swimming. You may even want to exercise more. By contrast, medical procedures and medications can have all sorts of major unintended negative consequences.
Quoted from Forks Over Knives Plan.
Pyramids were made after the flood
