Israeli near death experiencer verifies some teaching of Yeshua - Jesus.

[DennisTate]

Near death experience of fifteen year old Israeli verifies words of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

John 5:45

"Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust."

Rabbi Rami Levy & 15 year old Natan english subtitles

 

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Near death experience of fifteen year old Israeli verifies words of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

John 5:45

"Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust."

Rabbi Rami Levy & 15 year old Natan english subtitles

I watched the video and the boy was keeping very close to the works salvation idea of getting into heaven doing movitzva ( sorry bad spelling ) and deeds of kindness and weighing the good against the bad deeds in a scale.. The prophecies he was giving where in alignment with the OT only.. The video had nothing to do with him pointing towards Jesus as being the Messiah..

 

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Near death experience of fifteen year old Israeli verifies words of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

John 5:45

"Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust."

Rabbi Rami Levy & 15 year old Natan english subtitles

Yes. I acknowledge how angry and outraged the UK and USA felt when they were attacked in bombings abd plane strikes. Imagine how both Israel and Palestinians feel as both sides have committed such acts on a grand and conitnuous scale. You totally over simplify that regional issue. If it was just a onesided affair as you suggest, then this vwould have been sorted decades ago. Both sides have committed outrageous acts as your governments, the UN and international courts have pointed out.

 

[DennisTate]

I watched the video and the boy was keeping very close to the works salvation idea of getting into heaven doing movitzva ( sorry bad spelling ) and deeds of kindness and weighing the good against the bad deeds in a scale.. The prophecies he was giving where in alignment with the OT only.. The video had nothing to do with him pointing towards Jesus as being the Messiah..

I didn't say that he was pointing toward Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.... I said that he verified the statement by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus that the words of Moses would condemn his Jewish audience.

Also the fact that Natan and the Rabbi assisting him have such a huge audience gives us a better feel for several other statements in the New Testament.

Could there be some residents of Israel who are so convinced of some Jewish variation of the "soul sleep" doctrine that they begin to slander Rabbi Rami Levi and Natan?

Could the sentiment in some cases even become a plot to harm them somehow?

If it did then that would be similar to what was mentioned in John 12:


John 12:9

"Much people of the Jews therefore knew that he was there: and they came not for Jesus' sake only, but that they might see Lazarusalso, whom he had raised from the dead.

But the chief priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death;"

 

[DennisTate]

Yes. I acknowledge how angry and outraged the UK and USA felt when they were attacked in bombings abd plane strikes. Imagine how both Israel and Palestinians feel as both sides have committed such acts on a grand and conitnuous scale. You totally over simplify that regional issue. If it was just a onesided affair as you suggest, then this vwould have been sorted decades ago. Both sides have committed outrageous acts as your governments, the UN and international courts have pointed out.

I am mostly pointing out that the crowds of people who are showing up to listen to Rabbi Rami Levi and Natan is somewhat in line with the crowds of people who went out to see the movie, Heaven is for Real, or who read the book.

Christians and Jews are both being turned back in the general direction of G-d by the testimonies of Mr. Colton Burpo in the USA, and Natan in Israel, even though there is a difference in the flavour of each of their experiences.

Once the hearts of Jews and Christians is turned back to G-d at a higher level..... then G-d will give people wisdom with which to improve our political, economic and military problems.

Ezekiel 37:16

"Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:

And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand."

 

[DennisTate]

I just read a blog that sure seems to fit with the
fear and enthusiasm young Natan has now.


Repentance and Sin No More, Perfection and Born of the Spirit | Wisdom of God

 

[DennisTate]

Please notice this entire testimony......
How is Ian aware that his mother is praying for him?

How was she shown to pray for him?

 

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You know if God wanted people to believe in near death experience, He would have included Lazarus's testimony to that experience. Yeshua would have told Lazarus to tell everyone what it was like. But alas, no such testimony for a reason....

 

[DennisTate]

You know if God wanted people to believe in near death experience, He would have included Lazarus's testimony to that experience. Yeshua would have told Lazarus to tell everyone what it was like. But alas, no such testimony for a reason....

Not necessarily.......
if we will not believe II Corinthians 12:2-4......
then we would not listen to Lazarus either!

 

[DennisTate]

You know if God wanted people to believe in near death experience, He would have included Lazarus's testimony to that experience. Yeshua would have told Lazarus to tell everyone what it was like. But alas, no such testimony for a reason....

The Roman Catholic Church of the fifth century might have rejected either Matthew, Mark, Luke or John if they had contained an extensive account from Lazarus.

The Book of Enoch is quoted several times in the Christian Bible but the Roman Catholic officials of the fifth century rejected it in favour of The Apocalypse / The Book of Revelation, because although that book was extremely controversial, it didn't have some of the information on the afterlife that the Book of Enoch had that would tend to offend Roman Emperors who had great influence over what the church of that time taught.

For all I know.... the man that Paul knew, above fourteen years ago, could actually have been
Lazarus, we have no record of his being assassinated, although we do have it recorded that that had been planned.

 

[DennisTate]

I watched the video and the boy was keeping very close to the works salvation idea of getting into heaven doing movitzva ( sorry bad spelling ) and deeds of kindness and weighing the good against the bad deeds in a scale.. The prophecies he was giving where in alignment with the OT only.. The video had nothing to do with him pointing towards Jesus as being the Messiah..

But didn't even the thief on the cross beside Messiah make it into "Paradise?"

Did Messiah Yeshua - Jesus mean that garden type area where people meet deceased relatives in the NDE accounts when he told the thief that he would be in "paradise" with him today????

Could that be a different thing than fully making it into heaven????

I don't exactly know, but I think that these are good questions that deserve to be looked at.


Jeremiah 23:20

"The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly."

Could the prophecies of Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets have been considered perfectly...... five centuries ago?

I don't think so..... so what is different about our time period?

 

[DennisTate]

Romans 11:2

"God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,"


Romans 8:29

"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to beconformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."


Jeremiah 1:5

"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations."

There is a lot on this topic that sure fits with part of what many near death experiencers report being shown.

 

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Where in the Book of Enoch?

 

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But didn't even the thief on the cross beside Messiah make it into "Paradise?"

Did Messiah Yeshua - Jesus mean that garden type area where people meet deceased relatives in the NDE accounts when he told the thief that he would be in "paradise" with him today????

Could that be a different thing than fully making it into heaven????

I don't exactly know, but I think that these are good questions that deserve to be looked at.


Jeremiah 23:20

"The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly."

Could the prophecies of Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets have been considered perfectly...... five centuries ago?

I don't think so..... so what is different about our time period?

I have absolutly no idea what your talking about here..

 

[DennisTate]

Where in the Book of Enoch?

Here are verses from the New Testament that are quoted from the Book of Enoch.

Non-canonical books referenced in the Bible - Wikipedia

• Book of Enoch (Jude 4,6,13,14–15,[22] 2 Peter 2:4;3:13[22][23])

 

[DennisTate]

I have absolutly no idea what your talking about here..

Luke 23:43

And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."

It is obvious that the thief on the cross beside Messiah Yeshua - Jesus would be fully deceased by the end of that day and......
where was he going to be?

 

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Luke 23:43

And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."

It is obvious that the thief on the cross beside Messiah Yeshua - Jesus would be fully deceased by the end of that day and......
where was he going to be?

Yes Jesus died that day. Earth Day.. But was Jesus talking about an earth day or a Heaven day?

2 Peter 3: KJV
8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Buit again i still don't understand why you are bringing this up... What has thius to do with the video of that jewish boy talking about the OT prophecies and his dream???

 

[DennisTate]

Yes Jesus died that day. Earth Day.. But was Jesus talking about an earth day or a Heaven day?

2 Peter 3: KJV
8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Buit again i still don't understand why you are bringing this up... What has thius to do with the video of that jewish boy talking about the OT prophecies and his dream???

That is an interesting question.......
I've never actually thought of that one before!

 

[DennisTate]

You know if God wanted people to believe in near death experience, He would have included Lazarus's testimony to that experience. Yeshua would have told Lazarus to tell everyone what it was like. But alas, no such testimony for a reason....

Now I understand why Rabbi Levi was so humble and so willing to
listen to Natan as he told his story.


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