No offense, Jonathan, but you have no idea what I felt. The word 'cult' is one of the most misused words in the evangelical vocabulary, as I've discussed elsewhere. You guys use that term to describe anyone you disagree with. Christianity was once a cult.
Christianity was not once a cult. You didn't feel the presence of God. The presence of God is not in a place like Baha'i gardens. Unless something by God was about to happen, like a conversion to Jesus. Baha'i has doctrines of demons, so the presence of God is not there unless something like I said was about happen, or similar. It's The Holy Spirit that gives the presence of God. Baha'i people aren't led by the Holy Spirit, if they follow, teach doctrines of false teachers and/or prophets like Baha'u'llah Muhammad etc.
Once again, you are not in the position to know what Abraham would do or not do.
Yes I am. He didn't follow the God of the Quran who chose Muhammad, so he didn't do that.
Same God. Allah=Eloh. They are direct cognates. Do you understand what a direct cognate is?
No I don't understand. It's not same God, our God didn't chose Muhammad. He's a false prophet.
He did. Because of him, one billion Muslims believe in Christ.
They don't believe in him. Read the verses below. Otherwise, they'd be reading the bible which is The Word of God.
John 3:16
For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever
believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.
John 3:36
And
he who believes in (has faith in, clings to, relies on) the Son has (now possesses) eternal life. But whoever disobeys (is unbelieving toward, refuses to trust in, disregards, is not subject to) the Son will never see (experience) life, but [instead] the wrath of God abides on him. [God’s displeasure remains on him; His indignation hangs over him continually.]
I hate to break it to you but only one of those people was a woman and she was inciting violence against the Prophet, not merely insulting him.
The bible makes it clear Muhammad is a false prophet.
Mark 13:22
False Christs (Messiahs) and false prophets will arise and show signs and [work] miracles to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect (those God has chosen out for Himself).
Not anyone. Those who then turn around and participate in wars against Muslims. Your hate-blog conveniently left out the following verse:
I don't have a blog, and I don't hate people.
Do you really think it is right for people who claim to belong to a religion about love to spread hatred, lies and slander in this manner? Please, don't make yourself a part of this.
I don't hate people. Also, I repented. I confessed slander to Jesus.
Wrong. As John says the anti-christ is he who denies Jesus is the Christ. The Qur'an affirms numerous times that Jesus is the Christ. If you'd actually read the book you would know this.
Some questions:
1. Do Muslims believe Jesus is God? (John 1:1, John 8:24, Phil 2:6)
2. That he has become man and has come in the flesh>(That he was God in the flesh)?
(John 1:14, 1 John 4:2)?
3. Do they believe in the atonement? (Rom 3:25, 1 Cor 6:11, Heb 2:17)?
4. Imputation of divine righteousness to the ungodly through faith alone apart from any works. (Romans 4:3–6).
5. Saved by grace through faith, as a gift of God? (Eph 2:8).
6. "....Justified ( acquitted, made righteous, and brought into right relationship with God) by Christ’s blood,...." (Rom 5:9).
7. (1 John 1:9) If we [freely] admit that we have sinned and confess our sins, He is faithful and just (true to His own nature and promises) and will forgive our sins [dismiss our lawlessness] and [continuously] cleanse us from all unrighteousness [everything not in conformity to His will in purpose, thought, and action].
8. Resurrection of Jesus? Jesus as Lord? (Matt 28:6, Rom 10:9).
Do they believe in all this? Also, do you?
No?:
1 Timothy 6:3-4
3 But if anyone teaches otherwise and does not assent to the sound and wholesome messages of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) and the teaching which is in agreement with godliness (piety toward God),
4 He is puffed up with pride and stupefied with conceit, [although he is] woefully ignorant. He has a morbid fondness for controversy and disputes and strife about words, which result in (produce) envy and jealousy, quarrels and dissension, abuse and insults and slander, and base suspicions,
What you are spreading here is not love, it is slander and Proverbs has this to say about that:
10:18 He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool.
(King James Bible, Proverbs)
Now, I don't think you are deliberately lying or spreading slander but you are repeating it.
I repented, sorry.
No, it doesn't say anything about Joseph.
The Qur'an does indeed affirm the above, which you would know if you actually read the book.
Then that's another reason why it's false, since it contradicts the bible.
Before you were insisting that something in the Bible was not in the Qur'an (or so you thought.) Now you are complaining that something in the Bible is in the Qur'an? You do know that Muhammad was illiterate and couldn't read the Bible, even if it was in Arabic (which it was not.)
Read verses below.
Sorry. Usually when I meet a young person who is fairly articulate but seems to naively believe everything he hears as long as it is from their own narrow religion, they have been homeschooled and not exposed to much else.
Not religion.
And when I say 'narrow religion' I'm not talking about Christianity in general. Some forms of Christianity are narrow-minded and others are not. To say you won't read the Qur'an because you've decided ahead of time that it is demonic, is narrow-minded by definition.
You have to stop reading the Qur'an and those Baha'i scripture, Zoroaster, Buddha, etc. They are false prophets and/or teachers. Read 1 Cor 3:17, 1 Tim 6:3-4 and Eph 4:14 below.
1 Corinthians 3:17
If anyone does hurt to God’s temple or corrupts it [
with false doctrines] or destroys it, God will do hurt to him and bring him to the corruption of death and destroy him. For the temple of God is holy (sacred to Him) and that [temple] you [ the believing church and its individual believers] are.
1 Timothy 6:3-4
3 But if anyone teaches otherwise and does not assent to the sound and wholesome messages of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) and the teaching which is in agreement with godliness (piety toward God),
4 He is puffed up with pride and stupefied with conceit, [although he is] woefully ignorant. He has a morbid fondness for controversy and disputes and strife about words, which result in (produce) envy and jealousy, quarrels and dissension, abuse and insults and slander, and base suspicions,
I have proof it's demonic:
Ephesians 4:14
So then,
we may no longer be children, tossed [like ships] to and fro between chance gusts of teaching and wavering with every changing wind of doctrine, [the prey of] the cunning and cleverness of unscrupulous men, [gamblers engaged] in every shifting form of trickery in inventing errors to mislead.
Titus 1:9-10
9 He must hold fast to the sure and trustworthy Word of God as he was taught it, so that he may be able both to give stimulating instruction and encouragement in sound (wholesome) doctrine and to refute and convict those who contradict and oppose it [showing the wayward their error].
10 For there are many disorderly and unruly men who are idle (vain, empty) and
misleading talkers and self-deceivers and deceivers of others. [This is true] especially of those of the circumcision party [who have come over from Judaism].
2 Peter 2:1
But also [in those days] there arose false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among yourselves, who will subtly and stealthily introduce heretical doctrines (destructive heresies), even denying and disowning the Master Who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to and different from that which we preached to you, let him be accursed (anathema, devoted to destruction, doomed to eternal punishment)!
2 Cor 11:12-15
12 But what I do, I will continue to do, [for I am determined to maintain this independence] in order to cut off the claim of those who would like [to find an occasion and incentive] to claim that in their boasted [mission] they work on the same terms that we do.
13 For such men are false apostles [spurious, counterfeits], deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles (special messengers) of Christ (the Messiah).
14 And it is no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light;
15 So it is not surprising if his servants also masquerade as ministers of righteousness. [But] their end will correspond with their deeds.
1 Timothy 4:1-5
4 But the [Holy] Spirit distinctly and expressly declares that in latter times some will turn away from the faith, giving attention to deluding and seducing spirits and doctrines that demons teach,
2 Through the hypocrisy and pretensions of liars whose consciences are seared (cauterized),
3 Who forbid people to marry and [teach them] to abstain from [certain kinds of] foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and have [an increasingly clear] knowledge of the truth.
4 For everything God has created is good, and nothing is to be thrown away or refused if it is received with thanksgiving.
5 For it is hallowed and consecrated by the Word of God and by prayer.
1 Corinthians 5:6
[About the condition of your church] your boasting is not good [indeed, it is most unseemly and entirely out of place]. Do you not know that [just] a little leaven will ferment the whole lump [of dough]?
Galatians 5:9
A little leaven (a slight inclination to error, or a few false teachers) leavens the whole lump [it perverts the whole conception of faith or misleads the whole church].
