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is WWJD a good thing?

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by rob_aston, Sep 27, 2016.

  1. RDKirk

    RDKirk Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner Supporter

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    Kings don't vote.
     
  2. BlackZeppelin

    BlackZeppelin New Member

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    Really? Remember the bit about giving to Caesar what is Caesar's? Which Jesus did a he paid the temple tax. I was just trying to make a point that WWJD is meaningless in a lot of situations. A lot of circumstances are not black and white. A person for e.g. needs to decide if he/she wants to work in the family business or go to college. WWJD is not really applicable. Maybe you suggest that person should be a missionary. Can you say that for everyone?

    Btw, if Jesus first coming was in Australia, he would be voting as per Caesar, as voting is mandatory.
     
  3. RDKirk

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    Unlike Paul, Jesus explicitly identified Himself as not being a citizen of any nation of the world. Are you telling me that people who are not Australian citizens are required to vote in Australian elections?

    But I agree that WWJD is more limited than "what would Jesus have me do," because Jesus is king and we are not.
     
  4. Goodbook

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    Jesus doesnt need to vote he is King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
     
  5. Goodbook

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    I think Jesus did send out his diciples and expected them to share the gospel or good news to people that needed to hear it so in that sense yes we are all called to be missionaries but we arent all called to do what Paul did, evangelise all of the mediterranean for example. We each have our own sphere of influence.
     
  6. Goodbook

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    I always get a sense that people think of missionaries and missions as a really tough hard thing to do and that They are scared God will send them to africa or siberia or places like that. But thats often not the case.
     
  7. Goodbook

    Goodbook Reading the Bible

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    Ok to apply WWJD in a situation like if someone has to decide to work in a family business or go to college.

    Jesus worked in the family business. He was a carpenter.
    Now not everyone has to be a carpenter. But he didnt have the option or dilemma whther or. Ot to go to college like people do nowadays, plus, back then every jewish boy was expected to have some torah learning at the synagogue where jesus actually taught.
    He grew in wisdom and actually knew his higher calling at a young age and went about doing his Fathers business but didnt actually start full time ministry until age 30
     
  8. Goodbook

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    We can learn from what Jesus was faced with though whether to choose our own way or Gods way. If the two conflict, do one for a while and then when the time comes it will all have been preparation for ministry.
     
  9. Goodbook

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    And everything Jesus did was meaningful. For a christian especially.
     
  10. ZooGal

    ZooGal it is to the glory of kings to search out a word

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    Well interestingly enough Yahushua had His own WWYD....it was called a tzit tzit and not only did people grab onto them for healing (Mal 4:2, Luke 8:44, Matt 14:36) but it says in prophecy that people will once again grab hold of them from all nations! (kanaph: wings, extremity, which is where the tzit tzit are supposed to be).

    So therefore Yah expects us to be doing this in the future to show society who He is with. However, you better be doing what He would do, which is what the tzit tzit represent, following His word, not the desires of your own flesh. (Num 15:38, 39)

    Also I think, compared to tzit tzit, WWJD falls pretty short...I think it is funny that Christians get rid of the sign He gives us to do, then make up their own inferior one. Like theirs is somehow going to be better then the creators?

    For example here are just a few things tzit tzit represent...
    #1- the Word of Yah, the blue thread
    #2- it is on all sides, wherever you turn He is with you
    #3- the colour also symbolizes His commandments, most likely written on sapphire stone, just like the stone under His feet when He wrote them was sapphire, which should also remind you of the covenant you took when you ate and drank with Him (communion...which is a covenant) (Ex 24:9-11 and 1 Cor 11:27)
    #4 it also represents royalty, since the colour was rare and worn by royals, no matter who you are (Janitor or garbage collector) you are to remember you are royalty

    SO....yes what the bracelet symbolizes is for today, but the bracelet itself is inferior to the creators original design for that purpose.
     
  11. aus22

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    To answer the side question , Voting is compulsory in Australia but only for citizen . Strickly if mean getting your name tick off the roll when you recieved the voting paper. What you do with the voting paper is up to you.
     
  12. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    No, I think. Not better. "Instead of".
    YHWH takes no pleasure in the death of anyone,
    but HE WILL NOT violate anyone's free will.
     
  13. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    HEALING! YES! LIFE-GIVING! (NEW BIRTH LIFE in Y'SHUA, from ABBA YHWH! YES ! )
     
  14. Daryl Gleason

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    From personal experience, I can say that WWJD never enters my mind; I'm not interested in speculating and using my own imagination to try to resolve issues I may have. Rather, I find I'm always asking, "Father, what would you have me do," just as others have mentioned here.

    That said, I think your reply #7 is an excellent example of how asking WWJD can put one in touch with the Father and indirectly achieve the same effect.
     
  15. 2Timothy2:15

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    Really, where does it say that Jesus tithed?
     
  16. 2Timothy2:15

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    Jesus paid the temple tax? Hmmmm, no Peter was tricked into it and Jesus rebuked him for it...


    The Temple Tax

    24And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? 25He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? 26Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free. 27Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.
     
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  17. Soyeong

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    Why do you think there are any grounds to assume that Jesus didn't follow a particular law if the Bible didn't specifically mention it? The Mosaic law was given to reveal our transgressions, to make us aware of our sin, without the law we wouldn't even know what sin is, and sin is defined as lawlessness. We are told that Jesus was without sin, which it is central to Christian theology, which means that he set a perfect example for how to walk in obedience to the Mosaic law. Furthermore, we are told to follow his example and to walk in the same way that he walked.
     
  18. 2Timothy2:15

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    I did not say that. I asked a question and I think you missed the point, there is a whole lot more to the Mosaic Law. My point was tithing was under the Mosaic Law yet he did not tithe....do you know why?

    Also the Law was given to reveal sin but more importantly that there was no way any human could ever fulfill the law and keep the entire law. The whole point of the law was to point to Jesus our Savior and Lord and Messiah.
     
  19. Soyeong

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    Sorry for misunderstanding you. I do see any reason to think that he did not tithe.

    According to Galatians 5:14, loving your neighbor fulfills the entire law, so everyone since Moses who has done that has fulfilled the entire law. Every Sabbath, a rabbi in a synagogue would take a Torah scroll to Moses' seat and fulfilled the law by interpreting it and explaining how to understand it. In Matthew 5:17, Jesus said he came to fulfill the law, and then immediately proceeded to fulfill it six times by teaching how to correctly understand and obey it, so fulfilling the law does not refer to keeping it perfectly or to something unique that Jesus did. Jesus fulfilled the law in the same sense that Romans 15:18-19 says that Paul fulfilled the gospel, namely that he taught full obedience to it, not that he did away with it. It uses the same Greek word and I don't know anyone who interprets "fulfilling the gospel" in the same way as most Christians interpret "fulfilling the law".

    The law given to reveal what sin is, and we are told not to sin, therefore we should seek to avoid doing what it has revealed to be sin, even if we can't do so perfectly until our sanctification is complete when we will be made to be like Christ, who kept the law perfectly. The law is all about Jesus and the goal of the law is to grow in a relationship with him based on faith and love. He gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness so that we would be free to be trained by grace to do what God has revealed in His law to be godly, righteous, and good, trained by grace to renounce doing what God has revealed in His law to be ungodly, sinful, and lawless (Titus 2:11-14). God sent His Son to free us from doing what the law revealed to be sin to that we would be free to obey it so that we might meet the righteous requirement of the law (Romans 8:4).
     
  20. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    They just read TORAH, explaining if needed; perhaps(don't know when or if ) translated it for others, which is permitted.
    It is clear. YHWH knew what HE was having BREATHED through the men HE CHOSE, and HE did made it simple.
     
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