The GT is not the tribulation of those days.
This is a perfect example of why end times is so hard to understand. You have concluded that it can't possibly be the great tribulation spoken of in Matt 24, because there are other verses that you don't understand that leads you to make this incorrect conclusion. You will never understand the Word of God until you learn to just accept what it says. If there is a reason that you find it necessary to conclude that this can't possibly be the great tribulation BECAUSE.................. The problem is found in the BECAUSE. It is not that Matt 24 is not the great tribulation of those days as you conclude, as the Word clearly says that the events of Matt 24 is the great tribulation. So where ever you find it necessary to make this incorrect conclusion, THAT is where your problem is.
Matt 24:21
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
The tribulation of those days are the first 4 seals. Notice 2 billion people die.
John tells us about end times in the book of Revelation. He tells us what will happen in the 1st 4 seals. Jesus also tells us about end times. We can find the seals in the book of Matthew. Here are the 1st 4 seals as Jesus presents them in the book of Matthew.
Matt 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Of course John and Jesus also tells us about the 5th and 6th seals. Here is John telling us about the 6th seal.
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Here is Jesus telling us about the 6th seal.
Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
From this, you should be able to conclude that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. THEN the wrath of God begins. Anything in your timeline that does not agree with this is incorrect.
The last 2 billion have the mark of the beast and are killed at Armageddon or the winepress in Revelation 14.
Ok, I agree that the winepress of Rev 14 is Armageddon. In Rev 16 we can also find Armageddon.
Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
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And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Want to see Armageddon again? You will find it in the unwritten 7 thunders. How do we know that?
Rev 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
The Seals were placed first and deal with the church.
This is totally incorrect. The Church is already in heaven before any seals are opened.
Rev 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
The seals are opened and the 70th week of Daniel begins. The Church is already in heaven before the tribulation which is the 70th week as the 70th week is about the people of Daniel (the Jews)and has noting whatsoever to do with the Church.
Dan 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
That the church is raptured and the Second Coming is last makes no sense. The last of Adam to die is at Armageddon or the winepress. Why would God want us to flip the chronology?
If that were the case, the vials would come first and remove all those who potentially would have recieved the mark, boom 7 billion people cast into the lake of fire. They instantly disappeared into the lake of fire. Then those who persevered to the end are glorifed.
All you have to do is just read what it says to understand end times.
A) We see that the Church is already in heaven in Rev 4 and 5 before the seals are opened.
B) We see that the 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel.
C) We see a coming of Jesus at the 6th seal for the gathering. We can see this coming in Matt 24 and Rev 14. He is not coming to set up His kingdom on earth, He is coming for a harvest. He will send his angels to gather the ELECT from heaven and earth.
Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds,
from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
D)It is the Church that is gathered from heaven as we see them already in heaven before the seals are opened. Where the body is (Jesus), the eagles will be gathered. Who is gathered from the earth. The twelve tribes across the earth. How do we know this? There are 144,000 first fruits. First fruits are a guarantee of a harvest.
Rev 14: And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion,
and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
Conclusion: There are two raptures. One for the Church, pretrib, and one for the 12 tribes across the earth, prewrath. The fig tree has two harvests. Look it up.
E) Those that flee in the nation of Israel will remain on earth in a place of protection through Gods wrath. None of Gods people are appointed to wrath.
