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Featured Is Trump the first horseman of the apocalypse?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by friend of, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. friend of

    friend of Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It says he went forth to conquer and that seems to be all Trump has been doing... conquering #winning. He said he was going to do so much winning that we'd be tired of winning... White horse because he's white and controls USA which is predominantly Caucasian. It says he goes forth with a bow. If we read in Ephesians ch.6 about the armor of God it implores us to take up a shield of Faith to defend against the fiery darts of the devil. Darts and arrows (I believe) represent attacks from long range. The fiery darts of the evil one would be to cast doubt upon us in attempt to trick us and to attack our faith in other ways indirectly. Likewise, arrows from a bow can be likened to fiery darts in that they are projectiles. Trump tweets projectile arrows everyday that further encourage his conquering and sting his opposition.

    Does anyone find this plausible? Or am I once again overreacting?
     
  2. LastSeven

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    I'm sorry, but yes, you're waaaaay overreacting. You could just as easily say that Charlie Sheen is "winning".

    On the bright side, your post did make me laugh out loud. :D
     
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  3. Rion

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    "It's going to be a beautiful horse. One of the best, and it'll be yuge!"
     
  4. JIMINZ

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    1) No
    2) YES
     
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  5. Douggg

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    Not President Trump. There are some other things that have to develop. There needs to be some reason for the EU to re-organize it government - whatever that catalyst will be. Over there is where the rider on the white horse will come from.

    Take a look at Daniel 9:26b. Trying to give to a good straight answer, and something to look for. It's not going to be in American politics, but European politics.
     
  6. Oscarr

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    Is that something to do with the "last trump'? ^_^^_^^_^^_^
     
  7. TribulationSigns

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  8. Oscarr

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    If he contracted a cold, we could say that he is a little hoarse!
     
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  9. friend of

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    Oh riiight. Forgot about that.

    Glad to have ^_^ everybody laughing at me :oldthumbsup: my job today is done :sorry::help::wave:
     
  10. TribulationSigns

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    Rev 6:1-2
    [1] And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
    [2] And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

    The verse does NOT say that the white horse comes from Europe? The horsemen have nothing to do with politics!

    The white horse has already come. And He is Christ.
     
  11. tranquil

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    Pay no attention to them. When you get reactions like this, you can be sure you are on the right path. It will be much the same attitudes and worse very soon.

    People who call out the antichrist will be told that they are stupid and or crazy.
     
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  12. Douggg

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    Not Jesus. The seven seals cover the 70th week. Revelation itself, the chapters containing the visions from chapters 6-20, are based on the 70th week.

    I don't know where the horse comes from - but the rider will come from the EU.

    In Revelation 6:2, the person has become the King of Israel - not Christ - but instead of and against Christ. He is given a crown. Jesus has many crowns and arrives at the end of the 70th week, not the beginning of it. Why do you think it is called the Revelation God gave Jesus - it is not because information is being revealed to us, albeit it is of course , but the glorious revealing and honor God has bestowed on Jesus that the whole world will see him coming in Great Power and Glory.

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    The person will have become the leader of the EU before becoming the rider on the white horse. There is a sequence of events that will take place before the person becomes the King of Israel.

    First there has to be the ten king (leader) form of government established - not there yet. It is to be in the latter stages of the EU. In Daniel 8:23, the latter stage of their (the ten kings) kingdom. If you want to read it.

    Then the little horn comes to power. As Gog/Magog appears on the horizon, the little horn "stands up" an idiom for prepares to go to war. Also in Daniel 8:23.

    He positions his army in Greece, one of the former breakup kingdom location, as a deterrent to the invasion. Daniel 8:9.

    Gog/Magog takes place, and in the aftermath, he moves his army in to the middle east, moving south and east. Daniel 8:9

    It is at this point the Jews will believe him to be their messiah, and will be anointed the King of Israel. The rider on the white horse.

    He will have gone forth into the middle east, having staged his army to conquer and occupy the middle east, under the auspices of keeping peace in the area - and gaining control of of all the oil.

    Later on, after he becomes the beast in Revelation 13, his kingdom, described as a leopard, feet of a bear, and mouth of lion - which indicates that the EU will have gained control of the territories once held by those other three empires.
     
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  13. friend of

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    It's alright. I'd rather a thread be amusing than have it devolve into harsh debate anyway. I'm learning from the comments here.
     
  14. friend of

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    Thanks again as always @Douggg
     
  15. JCFantasy23

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    I don't think he is well liked by enough people in the US or worldwide to be considered a conqueror. Also, I'd be surprised if this is the case: "USA which is predominantly Caucasian."
     
  16. Another Lazarus

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    Antichrist shall be launched with the 1st seal opening to win FAKE PEACE all over the world which Trump doesnt make.

    Daniel 8:25 and by peace shall destroy many...

    Antichrist has a bow without arrows which is a symbol of peace making.
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    Antichrist will make the 7 years peace covenant between Israel-Arab which is currently being discussed extensively as the 2 States Solution.
    Daniel 9:27 "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week .....
    And the 1st seal opening will start the Grief Tribulation with FAKE PEACE.
     
  17. friend of

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    Exactly. It's all currently being discussed. Israel is right in the center of U.N. and world politics right now.
     
  18. Another Lazarus

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    Nobody here means to mock you, dont be sensitive Bro.
     
  19. Favourofone

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    Of course. This finally links his stable genius connection to horses. That crafty horseman.
     
  20. friend of

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    ...i literally said i was cool that everyone was having a good time in my thread. I wasn't being facetious.
     
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