Is this what the Opposition to Trump want?

[cow451]

If your government has the power to stand between one and God, one needs a new God.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

If your government has the power to stand between one and God, one needs a new God.

People are saying we received our new God in January of 2017.

 

[grasping the after wind]

We just want to watch him leave office, so logic and reason can have a chance to be used in government again.

Abandoning logic and reason to become obsessed over one person is hardly a way to introduce logic and reason into government.

 

[driewerf]

they

already attacked Christ by canceling Pascha / Easter

Who canceled Easter?

They did. They are always doing things like that.

Who are these "they"?
What are the "things" these "they" do?

Such vague phrasing suggest rather that the author is just making stuff up than referring to real events.

 

[Ricky M]

Oh, pray tell the mental gymnastics routine required to arrive at the conclusion connecting your assertion to a pandemic that has nothing to do with politics or faith?

Since you have no faith, you wouldn't understand. No matter how simple I make it.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Who are these "they"?
What are the "things" these "they" do?

Such vague phrasing suggest rather that the author is just making stuff up than referring to real events.

It appears that they have gotten to you too. See how deep they have infiltrated American Society?


There is no “They” it is a talking point used by some to promote an agenda, like the new War on Easter/Christianity.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Who are these "they"?
What are the "things" these "they" do?

Such vague phrasing suggest rather that the author is just making stuff up than referring to real events.

You seem not to understand the poster engages in satire.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

You seem not to understand the poster engages in satire.

The poster also offered a pretty good explanation in the above post and was simply following the line of the OP, who appears to be serious.

 

[driewerf]

You seem not to understand the poster engages in satire.

Oh, okay. I missed it indeed. I'm sorry.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

No, its not 'on them'. It's a pandemic, if you get the virus then you're not just risking your own safety, you're risking the safety of all the people around you. Even touching a door handle could leave contamination that passes onto another unsuspecting person. It's not freedom, its selfishness.

That's right. It's not for each person to just decide for themselves but to decide based on how it helps others. In fact, the Christian priority is others before yourself, so right there it doesn't even come down to yourself because before that you should isolate for the protection of OTHERS. I don't know how a Christian doesn't see that.

As for Easter, if you really think Jesus would care more about an annual festival of remembrance than about actually caring for sick and vulnerable people, then you must have read a very different bible to me.

Again, correct. Easter is the most major Christian holiday - BUT holidays are Church Tradition, they are not even Biblical. While they are important they are by no means vital or essential to the Christian walk with God. Of all the things we as Christians can forgo and cancel, holidays are top of the list. I can't imagine Jesus would want us to do a Church-made, man-made "holiday" over caring about the lives of others. I can't imagine it because God's Word is clear that God does not want that kind of behavior.

i don't understand many people's sudden obsession with Easter either, except that Trump is telling them to be so religious and superstitious about it.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Good Friday and Easter is major and the entire faith revolves around it, it's not just any celebration. Christmas is common, not Easter.

This is wrong. Good Friday and Easter are holidays, but the Christian faith does not revolve around holidays. They are traditions instilled by the men of the Church. They are not even Biblical holidays. Their meaning derives from the Bible but God's Word nowhere instructs us to observe these as holidays. Even Passover is legitimately a Biblical holiday while Easter and Good Friday are not. Easter is a recognition that the Passover holiday is fulfilled but it is not a holiday from God's Word in and of itself.

Even if they were Biblical holidays, the entirety of the Christian faith does NOT revolve around ANY holidays. The Christian faith revolves around the Gospel message of Christ's Redemptive work for the Salvation of mankind. Easter and Good Friday do point to the Gospel but they are simply traditional celebrations - they are neither sacraments nor Biblical holidays. In Christianity, one can know and evangelize the Gospel without needing holidays to do so.

The holidays are positive and good for the Church but they are not essentials by any means and can be cancelled, especially when the reason for cancellation is to serve our fellow man by protecting their lives. I can't understand how a Christian can justify putting these holidays over the well-being and very lives of their fellow man.

Even atheists in this thread, who have no Christian faith, can objectively understand this in the context of God's Word and the Christian religion.

 

[keith99]

What are you talking about. Why would anyone want social distancing forever? The article you linked says its not going to happen. Have you read 1984? THere's nothing in there about social isolation either. Who is this "they" that "attacked Christ" and who the heck cancelled Easter?

In fact now that I think about it social distancing would be anathema in 1984. Social pressure was even more important than Big Brother and everyone you spoke to just might be reporting you. Left alone to think (social isolation) would have bred if not resistance at least awareness that something was wrong.

 

[grasping the after wind]

The poster also offered a pretty good explanation in the above post and was simply following the line of the OP, who appears to be serious.

The poster got the poster's post in before the other poster could post so the other poster did not know the poster had already posted. The other poster needs to learn how to post post haste so as not to be superfluous in a post that becomes post poster.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The poster got the poster's post in before the other poster could post so the other poster did not know the poster had already posted. The other poster needs to learn how to post post haste so as not to be superfluous in a post that becomes post poster.

Thus shows the folly of the post poster trying to post posts to explain previous posts made by the poster.

 

[keith99]

This is wrong. Good Friday and Easter are holidays, but the Christian faith does not revolve around holidays. They are traditions instilled by the men of the Church. They are not even Biblical holidays. Their meaning derives from the Bible but God's Word nowhere instructs us to observe these as holidays. Even Passover is legitimately a Biblical holiday while Easter and Good Friday are not. Easter is a recognition that the Passover holiday is fulfilled but it is not a holiday from God's Word in and of itself.

Even if they were Biblical holidays, the entirety of the Christian faith does NOT revolve around ANY holidays. The Christian faith revolves around the Gospel message of Christ's Redemptive work for the Salvation of mankind. Easter and Good Friday do point to the Gospel but they are simply traditional celebrations - they are neither sacraments nor Biblical holidays. In Christianity, one can know and evangelize the Gospel without needing holidays to do so.

The holidays are positive and good for the Church but they are not essentials by any means and can be cancelled, especially when the reason for cancellation is to serve our fellow man by protecting their lives. I can't understand how a Christian can justify putting these holidays over the well-being and very lives of their fellow man.

Even atheists in this thread, who have no Christian faith, can objectively understand this in the context of God's Word and the Christian religion.

It seems to me that Easter is important to the Christian Faith, but as a time to remember what your Christ suffered on the cross for you. Not as a time to gather, a time to remember. And in remembering one should not forget that he suffered and died on the cross alone.

Perhaps Christians would do well to remember alone or just with others of their house instead of in large groups in a Church building for just one Easter. Perhaps this different sort of observance might help some to understand better just what it is that Christians celebrate at Easter.

 

[Kaon]

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[Ricky M]

Who are these "they"?
What are the "things" these "they" do?

Such vague phrasing suggest rather that the author is just making stuff up than referring to real events.

Or, 'they' are responding to a post you must have missed

 

[TLK Valentine]

Who are these "they"?
What are the "things" these "they" do?

Such vague phrasing suggest rather that the author is just making stuff up than referring to real events.

Well, whoever "they" are, "they" must be quite powerful indeed to flat-out cancel Easter.

Who has the authority to declare that Christ will not rise from the dead this year?

 

[High Fidelity]

Since you have no faith, you wouldn't understand. No matter how simple I make it.

Absence of faith is new to me. I'm all ears.

 

[Ricky M]

Absence of faith is new to me. I'm all ears.

You are listed as an atheist. Which I suppose is a faith unto itself. But since you don't believe in the Bible or what it says, if I quote the Bible to you wouldn't that be an exercise in futility?