MJ Only Is this a credible plan for peace?

[Heber Book List]

Israel has a basic peace plan - a two state solution. Will this plan work?


INSS presents peace plan: Two-states, 'separation' from the Palestinians



This thread is for Messianic Jews and Messianic Gentiles only

 

[mukk_in]

Prime Minister Netanyahu doesn't seem to think so. I do believe that Jerusalem belongs to Israel.

 

[Lulav]

Israel has a basic peace plan - a two state solution. Will this plan work?


INSS presents peace plan: Two-states, 'separation' from the Palestinians



This thread is for Messianic Jews and Messianic Gentiles only

Work for whom?

The Israelis have a Deed but most being secular either don't know it or don't want to acknowledge it because it comes with caveats.

Those who are not of the covenant are the same as in Moses time, a deterrent to keep Gods Chosen people out of His chosen piece of land. The only reason they are there is ancient.

They did not cleanse the land when they were told to.
They did not keep the commandments so the land did not spit them out.

But HaShem has it all figured out, so I'm not worried. I know which sides wins in the end.

 

[Tolworth John]

Peace with islam! Does this plan involve becomeing muslim and letting hamas etc rule?
If not it won't work.

 

[Heber Book List]

Peace with islam! Does this plan involve becomeing muslim and letting hamas etc rule?
If not it won't work.

This thread is for MJ only.

 

[Tolworth John]

Then get it set in the setting so that only those labelled as messianic can post.

 

[Heber Book List]

The OP says it and it has a blue flag saying MJ Only. It is quite explicit!

 

[Dave-W]

Then get it set in the setting so that only those labelled as messianic can post.

I don't believe the software supports that lower than a folder wide restriction.

 

[Dave-W]

No - I don't think it will work since EVERYTHING has been tried already and the Palestinians have rejected every option. They will not be satisfied until Israel as a Jewish state ceases to exist.

 

[Ken Rank]

Prime Minister Netanyahu doesn't seem to think so. I do believe that Jerusalem belongs to Israel.

With all due respect, that means we need to throw out the bible.

2 Chron. 6:6 But now I have chosen Jerusalem for my Name to be there, and I have chosen David to rule my people Israel.

If the God of Israel placed His name in/on that city, and the Jews are no less than a part of Israel, then they are the only people mentioned in the bible who are certain of their identity who can make a claim for Jerusalem.

As far as the plan @Heber Book List I doubt it. There have been enough plans, enough giving away of the land over the years, and there are always outside forces stirring the pot that will prevent peace until Messiah comes. The truth is, most Palestinians and Jews get along fine UNTIL those outside forces stir the pot.

Edit to add.... I list as a non-denom "Christian" because of what the word Christian means. Christ, a transliteration of Christos the Greek word for anointed, and the "ian" ending which means, "of or belonging to." A "Christian" is one who belongs to the anointed one. But I do keep the feasts, shabbat, etc, and would be viewed as Messianic by any Messianic.

 

[DennisTate]

Israel has a basic peace plan - a two state solution. Will this plan work?


INSS presents peace plan: Two-states, 'separation' from the Palestinians



This thread is for Messianic Jews and Messianic Gentiles only

Interesting.... I like this plan better:

God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land!
God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land!

Gods Peace Plan For the Holy Land – Discussion Group

http://godspeaceplan.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Gods-Peace-Plan-English-Version.pdf

 

[Ken Rank]

I think I am going to hold to the idea that true and lasting peace will not happen until Messiah comes. That doesn't mean we don't try to work with others and find places where we can come together. but the true peace we all seek comes through Messiah.

 

[mukk_in]

With all due respect, that means we need to throw out the bible.

2 Chron. 6:6 But now I have chosen Jerusalem for my Name to be there, and I have chosen David to rule my people Israel.

If the God of Israel placed His name in/on that city, and the Jews are no less than a part of Israel, then they are the only people mentioned in the bible who are certain of their identity who can make a claim for Jerusalem.

As far as the plan @Heber Book List I doubt it. There have been enough plans, enough giving away of the land over the years, and there are always outside forces stirring the pot that will prevent peace until Messiah comes. The truth is, most Palestinians and Jews get along fine UNTIL those outside forces stir the pot.

Edit to add.... I list as a non-denom "Christian" because of what the word Christian means. Christ, a transliteration of Christos the Greek word for anointed, and the "ian" ending which means, "of or belonging to." A "Christian" is one who belongs to the anointed one. But I do keep the feasts, shabbat, etc, and would be viewed as Messianic by any Messianic.

I meant in the current political scenario where Palestine is demanding East Jerusalem. Yes, the new Jerusalem when the Lord returns will belong to all of us saints, Jewish and Gentile believers alike.

 

[Heber Book List]

Interesting.... I like this plan better:

God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land!
God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land!

Gods Peace Plan For the Holy Land – Discussion Group

http://godspeaceplan.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Gods-Peace-Plan-English-Version.pdf

Two states is a good idea - as long as the other is not on Israeli land (as defined by G_d)!

 

[visionary]

There is no peace with an nation/idealism of your annihilation no matter how many plans for peace you put before them. One day they will go too far and their annihilation is the only answer.

 

[Hoshiyya]

I'm sure the Palestinians will gladly enter into any peace agreement that they feel ultimately advances their real goal of eliminating the state of Israel.

Any solution or agreement favored by the Palestinians would be a solution or agreement the Israelis should be wary of.