Is There Free Will in Heaven ???

bling · Nov 15, 2018

Every knee will bow and “acknowledge” the existence of Christ as Deity, but that will not “save” those that go to hell. For those that go to hell and afterwards having them accept God’s charity would be like putting a gun to the person’s head and saying Love me or else. A forced Love is not a Godly type Love. God provided every mature adult with all the opportunities on earth to make a truly free will choice to accept or reject God’s charity (accepting another likely alternative being the perceived pleasures of sin for a season), so their refusing means they will not change no matter what, so that choice was taken away from them. They will realize what they did and blame only themselves.

God chose to Love us which requires a free will ability, since Godly type Love is not some knee jerk reaction, so for us to Love back requires our free will choice to do so.

You have to have free will in order to Love God with a Godly type Love.

In Heaven you still have free will (like the angels, so of whom rebelled against God).

Christ is in your presence helping you in the form of the Spirit which you now see and tough 24/7?

The tree of knowledge or something similar is not there to tempt you, satan is no longer around and you have experience with both sin and satan, so there is no temptation to learn about evil.

Lots of temptations can go back to the conflict sexuality creates, yet that goes away by no longer being a sexual being.

God has given us everything, so what is there to covet?

To be like God comes with having Godly type Love (unselfish) like God, so do you desire to be even more unselfish (OK, but is that something to covet?)

Sin is needed on earth to help humans initially fulfill their earthly objective, so God does not arrange earth to be a place to avoid sinning, but sin is not needed in heaven, so everything is there to help you avoid sinning.

JacksBratt · Nov 15, 2018

Sorry, must disagree here.

There will be free will in heaven.. We will not be robots...

The part of us that is the corrupt flesh, will have died. We are raised incorruptible.

We will also be "like Christ". Can Christ Sin? As the man on earth, ya, He could have. Satan tried to get Him to sin but could not... We will be like Him.

There will be no sin in us.. but we will still have free will. We always have and always will.

Think of it this way.. When you have not had anything to eat all day and you face an all you can eat buffet...

That is you before heaven and the food is sin..

Now, after you have had a good meal, you are stuffed.... and someone offers you a nice piece of pecan pie... It almost nauseates you... because you have no desire for food anymore...

That is us in heaven with no desire for sinning.

nonaeroterraqueous · Nov 15, 2018

It's all about where you put your trust. Don't tell me that makes no difference. The "mechanics," are not the issue, as though we cared about the method that God used to keep our hearts turned toward him. The issue is that it's him, not us, that we are trusting to keep us that way, not just in the life to come, but in this one, as well.

RDKirk · Nov 15, 2018

So it boils down to the same question as "Calvinism vs Arminianism," then, in your opinion?

GingerBeer · Nov 15, 2018

The answer is yes because God is free, he has free will, yet he never sins, he never desires what is wicked and evil. Freedom doesn't mean being free to do either good or evil. It means being free from evil even though you know what it is and how to accomplish it. Free from what harms, destroys, and corrupts is what freedom is for.

Alithis · Nov 15, 2018

in heaven is to be IN Christ . to be in Christ is to be in love .. love does not rebel love has no desire to rebell .Yes there is is free will in heaven . there a trees and fruits and all manner of imagined beyong what has enetered into our present imaginings .
how will you choose which fruit to eat if there is no free will , more importantly why would you be concerned . but in a perfected sate of Love there will be absolutely NO inclination to sin .. it will be more pure then the innocence of a 1 year old who has the free will to pick up the red toy or the blue toy ..but has no desire in him to hate and thus murder anyone .

Alithis · Nov 15, 2018

free will? ... if you abide in me and my word abides in you .. "you shall ask what you will"..... why ? becaseu whatever you ask will be motivated by the pure love and nature of God in you .

Blade · Nov 15, 2018

Thanks but how in the world can one know this? Well as Jesus would say.. you dont even know the natural how can you know the supernatural? When we talk about free will here ...people debate..still are.

I see people some how equate free will to sin. And that in heaven its taken away. God never gave it away. And no free will in heaven..yet Angels... sin was found IN Satan.. and those that fell.. made a CHOICE..they had the right to make a choice. GOD NEVER CHANGES...

You will still be you.. how does your Heavenly Father treat you here? Again.. I dont see free will = sin. I wonder what some really think about heaven.. as if .. your will have JOY for everything. You will never dislike anything anyone..on and on. Did you know the Father gets upset and its not a sin. Let not the sun go down upon. You get to heaven.. people will come to you and you to them for some of things you did or they did to you.

This world.. its NOT the way He wanted it.. but He uses it for His glory. He made us in His image..that is not just LOOKS. When we talk about the the armor we are to put on.. put on the whole armor of GOD..its His armor. When we see Christ we will be as He is. How was He here? He will be the same in heaven. How did He act talk feel? You will think feel what ever..same. But no SIN will be there. Like crying.. you think crying will be gone? Man.. I am so easily touched by so much and haha and cry so easy.. yet its not sorrow its joy.. that will still be there..

You will be able say.. I would rather live WAY over there.. He will with JOY. ok.. your still YOU. Just everything that is not of HIM is gone.. you are NOW of HIM.. I really dont care.. just as long as SIN is gone.. its a daily walk.. and like so many I am so tried... I see the finish line

1213 · Nov 15, 2018

I believe people who get eternal life, will have free will. They are righteous and freely want to do what is good and right, which is why they can have the life.

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

Kaon · Nov 15, 2018

I would argue free will isn't a reality for any entity EXCEPT holy creatures. Humans have no free will; we only have the freedom to respond to what situations we are in, but we don't have the power to of will to change our life settings - the idea that you make your heaven is a terrible misunderstanding.

The fact that holy entities have free will and choose to give 100% of their free will to the Most High God is part of what makes them holy.

A real holy entity does not have to be barred in will, because its will is in unity with the Most High God.

zoidar · Nov 15, 2018

First, what is free will? Can I choose to fly? No! Then is there no free will? Free will is not about that. Free will is to be able to freely choose the options aviable. In that sense we have free will now and will also in heaven.

DamianWarS · Nov 16, 2018

One could argue there is no free will on earth

drjean · Nov 16, 2018

Hmmm If God only wanted robotic service and love he would not have created humans... or even angels for that matter! He wants to be loved 'genuinely' not mechanically. So, yes, there will be free will in heaven BUT that definition may be different/may change the world's current definition of free will. And then again, having the mind of Christ, having been redeemed, we will not have any sin nature... so our 'want to's will not be carnally minded. We cannot sin... what brings about sin.. lust of the eye, lust of the flesh, pride of life..so since we won't have those, and won't even want for anything... how could we make a bad choice (i.e. go against God) using our free will.

Dropout_Theologian · Nov 16, 2018

I hope, truly hope, my will aligns with God's in heaven, for his sake (though he needs me not) and mine. I am grieved to deal with my remarkable sinfulness here on earth. I envision a place where I am no more rebellious. Perhaps I shall be a singer, or a bell ringer. Something where I can recapture the brotherhood of pre-performance anxiety. To the glory of God, and that I love him.

devin553344 · Nov 17, 2018

We will all be filled with the Holy Ghost so the will will be Gods!

DamianWarS · Nov 17, 2018

The capacity that we operating under a "free will" model now I don't think changes. The things we do will still be as choices it just we know a hole lot more, enlighten if you will. Healthy people don't throw themselves off a cliff and they are content to live in this measures, in heaven we too won't do things against God which in similar way will be harmful to us.

Tom34 · Nov 17, 2018

Yes there is.

Those who are in heaven will definitely choose God even though the free will is still there because they knows the effect of Sin.

World is our spiritual battle ground. If we choose God on earth, there is no reason why we would choose other entity when we are in heaven.

fhansen · Nov 17, 2018

Yes! To the extent that we choose God on earth, opting for good over evil, life over death, light over darkness, we're heaven-bound. And once there God totally confirms our choice with a welcoming party that we can't begin to imagine.

drjean · Nov 17, 2018

I see other good answers as well

Yes, I am reminded of the verses where Paul writes about we being bad/evil yet able to come to the truth, and be able to discern good and evil ... here on earth.... so how much more when we are in heaven and NOT evil at all, be able to 'stay sinless' as I guess would be the foundation for choosing God always...

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