Is there a historian on here who could tell me about Queen Mary of Scots?

[JacquelineDeane55]

(I am dead serious so please don't laugh at my post, I don't want it to be taken that way.)

So my grandmother says that Queen Mary of Scots ("Bloody Mary") is one of my ancestors and yet I don't really know a thing about her, I think she lived a long time ago. Yup...she's definitely dead today.

Could somebody tell me something historical about her?

https://www.google.com/search?q=que...K3iwKjp4HwDQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=815

 

[mark kennedy]

(I am dead serious so please don't laugh at my post, I don't want it to be taken that way.)

So my grandmother says that Queen Mary of Scots ("Bloody Mary") is one of my ancestors and yet I don't really know a thing about her, I think she lived a long time ago. Yup...she's definitely dead today.

Could somebody tell me something historical about her?

https://www.google.com/search?q=que...K3iwKjp4HwDQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=815

I'm no historian but she was Queen of Scotland and bride of the Dauphin in France, he died a year later making her Queen of France as well. She was by rights entitled to the throne in England but had some pretty serious competition from Elizabeth I. She had every means of being the most powerful ruler in Europe controlling half of Europe. Her son James became King James, the king that authorized the King James Bible in 1611 that still bears his name.

Bloody Mary they called her and for good reason, blood shed around her was horrible. Bloody wars and assassination plagued her reign and she ended up beheaded in 1587.

The Protestant/Catholic political divide is a part of the controversy surrounding her reign, she was a devout and political Catholic.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[Lavender1275]

Y'all are getting some Mary's confused here. "Bloody Mary", Queen of England, was the elder half-sister of Queen Elizabeth I. She was the daughter of King Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon.

Mary, Queen of Scots, was not "Bloody Mary." It is she who was married to the Dauphin, Francis.

So which one is your ancestor?

 

[Lavender1275]

Y'all are getting some Mary's confused here. "Bloody Mary", Queen of England, was the elder half-sister of Queen Elizabeth I. She was the daughter of King Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon.

Mary, Queen of Scots, was not "Bloody Mary." It is she who was married to the Dauphin, Francis.

So which one is your ancestor?

 

[mark kennedy]

Y'all are getting some Mary's confused here. "Bloody Mary", Queen of England, was the elder half-sister of Queen Elizabeth I. She was the daughter of King Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon.

Mary, Queen of Scots, was not "Bloody Mary." It is she who was married to the Dauphin, Francis.

So which one is your ancestor?

Thanks for that, your right

Mary, Queen of Scots (7/8 December 1542 – 8 February 1587),
Queen Mary I ‘Bloody Mary’ (18 February 1516 – 17 November 1558)

Nice catch

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[karens51]

Mary, Queen of Scots is my ancester too. And she was not "Bloody Mary".

 

[Cearbhall]

So my grandmother says that Queen Mary of Scots ("Bloody Mary") is one of my ancestors and yet I don't really know a thing about her, I think she lived a long time ago.

Are you interested in trying to verify this? It's not as hard as it sounds, since family trees of nobility are readily available. It's possible that you would only have to get back to the 18th century to figure it out.

 

[revanneosl]

Queen "bloody" Mary Tudor had no children, so you can't be descended from her.

Mary, Queen of Scots had only one child: James I of England (and VI of Scotland), so if you are descended from her, you're descended from him as well.

He had 7 children, but only two of them managed to reproduce, so you'd have to be descended from either Elizabeth Stuart, Electress Palatine (Bohemia's Winter Queen) or from HRM Charles I of England.

 

[paul becke]

Queen "bloody" Mary Tudor had no children, so you can't be descended from her.

Mary, Queen of Scots had only one child: James I of England (and VI of Scotland), so if you are descended from her, you're descended from him as well.

He had 7 children, but only two of them managed to reproduce, so you'd have to be descended from either Elizabeth Stuart, Electress Palatine (Bohemia's Winter Queen) or from HRM Charles I of England.

 

[JacquelineDeane]

(It's me JacquelineDeane)

I'm sorry, I did not know that she was not "Bloody Mary." But yes, it was Mary Queen of Scots who I am talking about. Grandma keeps telling me I am descended from a Queen.

 

[mark kennedy]

Mary Queen of Scots was a great lady, an admirable monarch. It seems unlikely she would have descendants in the United States, there wouldn't be very many in England either. It could be that you are from the same line, now that's a lot more likely and more common then most people realize. If your Grandmother is trying to say your related to Mary Queen of Scots I think I would be intrigued enough to do a genealogy search.

My Father always told me we are French Indian, when I traced it back I found we go back to the Huguenots. At any rate, I think you should pursue it.

 

[Catherineanne]

(I am dead serious so please don't laugh at my post, I don't want it to be taken that way.)

So my grandmother says that Queen Mary of Scots ("Bloody Mary") is one of my ancestors and yet I don't really know a thing about her, I think she lived a long time ago. Yup...she's definitely dead today.

Could somebody tell me something historical about her?

https://www.google.com/search?q=que...K3iwKjp4HwDQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=815

Mary Queen of Scots is not Bloody Mary. Mary Tudor is Bloody Mary, and she had no children. They were distant cousins; Mary QoS's great grandmother was sister to Mary Tudor's Father, Henry VIII. Mary QoS was mother to James VI of Scotland and I of England.

If you read this book it will tell you all that you could ever wish to know. Very tragic lady.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Heart-Ow...2&sr=8-1&keywords=my+heart+is+my+own+John+Guy

It is unlikely that you are a descendant specifically of Mary QoS, although it is thought that up to 1/3rd of the UK population is related to royalty in some way, so if you have UK roots some kind of link may just be possible. Not surprising when the royal dynasties go back over a thousand years. However, I have to say, my daughter is a genealogist and this kind of story is very common in families but is rarely true. If it were true there would be some kind of evidence lying around; family silver with coats of arms, photographs or paintings; something other than a story.

 

[Catherineanne]

If anyone wants to find a connection to royalty, this would be a good place to start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descendants_of_George_III_and_Charlotte_of_Mecklenburg-Strelitz

George III had 56 illegitimate grandchildren; Lord knows how many descendants there will be today.

 

[Kate94]

There are Americans descended from Mary, Queen of Scots, but probably under a thousand. One family that comes to mind is the lords Baltimore and their descendants, via an illegitimate daughter of Charles II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Swingate_Calvert
If you are, then we're distant cousins. I'm a documented descendant of Prince Rupert's illegitimate daughter, Ruperta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert_of_the_Rhine

Most of us with no recent connections to the royal family that are descendants of Queen Mary and King James are through someone's love child. Queen Mary's half-brother also has a multitude of descendants and they are probably more numerous among non-royals.

 

[faroukfarouk]

There are Americans descended from Mary, Queen of Scots, but probably under a thousand. One family that comes to mind is the lords Baltimore and their descendants, via an illegitimate daughter of Charles II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Swingate_Calvert
If you are, then we're distant cousins. I'm a documented descendant of Prince Rupert's illegitimate daughter, Ruperta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert_of_the_Rhine

Most of us with no recent connections to the royal family that are descendants of Queen Mary and King James are through someone's love child. Queen Mary's half-brother also has a multitude of descendants and they are probably more numerous among non-royals.

Canada is a monarchy, you know! and Nova Scotia even has its own aristocracy dating from the Scottish monarchs (although it tends to keep relatively quiet)...

 

[Kate94]

Nova Scotia even has its own aristocracy dating from the Scottish monarchs (although it tends to keep relatively quiet)...

Odd you should mention it, as my family is actually one of them.
http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/Curr Scots Barts.htm
The first Campbells mentioned. I don't think most of those families ever lived in Canada, despite the titles in NS.

Do you know if there are any Canadians who hold titles higher than baronet?

 

[faroukfarouk]

Odd you should mention it, as my family is actually one of them.
http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/Curr Scots Barts.htm
The first Campbells mentioned. I don't think most of those families ever lived in Canada, despite the titles in NS.

Do you know if there are any Canadians who hold titles higher than baronet?

IDK...

(Unless it was Lord Thomson, who doesn't use his title in Canada, or even Conrad Black.)