Is there a difference between soul and spirit?

[Childofgodharrison]

Yes it does.

1Co_5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

You say, "you don't understand" but perhaps it is you that doesn't understand? Take some time to think of all of this...try not to just defend the things you have believed for a long time.

In this scripture the spirit has to be saved because this person is saved but keep sinning, so now his spirit has to be saved. So he has to suffer now.

 

[Childofgodharrison]

Yes it does.

1Co_5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

You say, "you don't understand" but perhaps it is you that doesn't understand? Take some time to think of all of this...try not to just defend the things you have believed for a long time.

1. God said in the beginning let us make man in our image. He was talking about the spirit. The spirit is what is like him. That is how he communicates with man.
2. Adam and Eve lived by the spirit. The soul governs the flesh, so the soul and the flesh work together. With Adam and Eve the soul was working, but it was humbled it allowed the spirit to lead. When the devil said your eyes will be open he was not talking about their physical eyes, because their physical eyes were open. He meant the eyes of the soul. Then they would know good and evil. So when they disobeyed God the soul came up to rule and the spirit went down.
3. We have to be born again to be saved. What does that really mean? We have to humble the flesh and deny the wants and will of the flesh. When we humble all our ways the spirit comes up and the soul humbles itself and follow, and do the will of the spirit. This is why Jesus came and died for us. So that we would have a way to return back to be able to communicate with God. He did what Adam did not do. He lived by the spirit and did not intentionally sin. If he would have sinned in any way, his soul would have came up. The devil tried three times to get him to give in to his flesh, but he fail.
4.In this scripture(1Co_5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.)
When a person has humbled the soul and start living by the spirit, the soul is following the spirit, but if the person goes back to sinning, God hands them over to the devil to be beaten and battered, physically and mentally, so that they will get it right. And indeed, they do.

 

[ewq1938]

In this scripture the spirit has to be saved because this person is saved but keep sinning, so now his spirit has to be saved. So he has to suffer now.

Saying the person is saved but the spirit needs to be saved makes no sense and contradicts your earlier statements that the spirit doesn't need saving. Guess what? We are all sinners, maybe we aren't caught by everyone like in this example but we all still sin and all of our spirits need saving, just as our souls need saving...

 

[ewq1938]

1. God said in the beginning let us make man in our image. He was talking about the spirit.

No, he is talking about our physical bodies.

The soul governs the flesh, so the soul and the flesh work together.

This is also incorrect. No scripture supports that the soul does this.

With Adam and Eve the soul was working, but it was humbled it allowed the spirit to lead.

Again, scripture doesn't support any of this. It's pure conjecture.

When the devil said your eyes will be open he was not talking about their physical eyes, because their physical eyes were open. He meant the eyes of the soul. Then they would know good and evil. So when they disobeyed God the soul came up to rule and the spirit went down

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Not supported by scripture.

When we humble all our ways the spirit comes up and the soul humbles itself and follow, and do the will of the spirit.

These statements simply don't come from scripture. This soul up or down and spirit up or down isn't factual.

 

[Childofgodharrison]

No, he is talking about our physical bodies.
God is not flesh and blood. He is spirit. He said in their image. This verse tells us that God is not a man. Numbers 23:19 19God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?
This verse tell us that he is spirit. John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.




This is also incorrect. No scripture supports that the soul does this.
What do you think governs the flesh. The mind. The body can do nothing without the mind. Most people know that the mind and the soul are the same. There is no scripture that says the mind is the soul. The holy spirit helps to bring us into understanding. So there is no way to explain this to you because you won't except mind as the soul. Not excepting the mind as the soul will give you a lot of trouble understanding the scriptures. The mind is where sin is conceived. The mind or the soul is what needs to be saved. The spirit is willing to do the things of God. The soul is not.

 

[Rescued One]

Answer: The Bible is not perfectly clear as to the nature of the human soul. But from studying the way the word soul is used in Scripture, we can come to some conclusions. Simply stated, the human soul is the part of a person that is not physical. It is the part of every human being that lasts eternally after the body experiences death. Genesis 35:18 describes the death of Rachel, Jacob’s wife, saying she named her son “as her soul was departing.” From this we know that the soul is different from the body and that it continues to live after physical death.
The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being. As George MacDonald said, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.” In other words, personhood is not based on having a body. A soul is what is required. Repeatedly in the Bible, people are referred to as “souls” (Exodus 31:14; Proverbs 11:30), especially in contexts that focus on the value of human life and personhood or on the concept of a “whole being” (Psalm 16:9-10; Ezekiel 18:4; Acts 2:41; Revelation 18:13).
The human soul is distinct from the heart (Deuteronomy 26:16; 30:6) and the spirit (1 Thessalonians 5:23; Hebrews 4:12) and the mind (Matthew 22:37; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27). The human soul is created by God (Jeremiah 38:16). It can be strong or unsteady (2 Peter 2:14); it can be lost or saved (James 1:21; Ezekiel 18:4). We know that the human soul needs atonement (Leviticus 17:11) and is the part of us that is purified and protected by the truth and the work of the Holy Spirit (1 Peter 1:22). Jesus is the great Shepherd of souls (1 Peter 2:25).
https://www.gotquestions.org/human-soul.html

 

[Childofgodharrison]

Answer: The Bible is not perfectly clear as to the nature of the human soul. But from studying the way the word soul is used in Scripture, we can come to some conclusions. Simply stated, the human soul is the part of a person that is not physical. It is the part of every human being that lasts eternally after the body experiences death. Genesis 35:18 describes the death of Rachel, Jacob’s wife, saying she named her son “as her soul was departing.” From this we know that the soul is different from the body and that it continues to live after physical death.
The human soul is central to the personhood of a human being. As George MacDonald said, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.” In other words, personhood is not based on having a body. A soul is what is required. Repeatedly in the Bible, people are referred to as “souls” (Exodus 31:14; Proverbs 11:30), especially in contexts that focus on the value of human life and personhood or on the concept of a “whole being” (Psalm 16:9-10; Ezekiel 18:4; Acts 2:41; Revelation 18:13).
The human soul is distinct from the heart (Deuteronomy 26:16; 30:6) and the spirit (1 Thessalonians 5:23; Hebrews 4:12) and the mind (Matthew 22:37; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27). The human soul is created by God (Jeremiah 38:16). It can be strong or unsteady (2 Peter 2:14); it can be lost or saved (James 1:21; Ezekiel 18:4). We know that the human soul needs atonement (Leviticus 17:11) and is the part of us that is purified and protected by the truth and the work of the Holy Spirit (1 Peter 1:22). Jesus is the great Shepherd of souls (1 Peter 2:25).
https://www.gotquestions.org/human-soul.html

That explains the soul, but what about the spirit? Is it the same as the soul?

 

[ewq1938]

Not excepting the mind as the soul will give you a lot of trouble understanding the scriptures.

Ok, well good luck with that.

 

[ewq1938]

As George MacDonald said, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.”

We actually are a soul as a figure of speech only, and we do have a soul. This is what most people fail to understand.

 

[Rescued One]

That explains the soul, but what about the spirit? Is it the same as the soul?

The human soul is distinct from the heart (Deuteronomy 26:16; 30:6) and the spirit (1 Thessalonians 5:23; Hebrews 4:12) and the mind (Matthew 22:37; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27).

The soul is distinct from the spirit.

It is this spirit in man that is related to the higher things in man. The spirit of man is definitely related to the conversion experience. The apostle Paul acknowledged “The Spirit itself [the Holy Spirit] beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God” (Rom. 8:16).

Man became a soul. Man is a soul.
Man’s body is an essential part of his constitution, so much so that he would not be man without a body. But in the second place, man is immaterial. This is the life of God that entered man when God breathed into him and he became a living soul. Man became immortal and will live forever because God, his source, is eternal. Since man was made in the image of God who created all things, man has creative abilities, to rule the physical earth.
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Man is not a spirit. He has a spirit.

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[ewq1938]

The human soul is distinct from the heart (Deuteronomy 26:16; 30:6) and the spirit (1 Thessalonians 5:23; Hebrews 4:12) and the mind (Matthew 22:37; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27).

The soul is distinct from the spirit.

It is this spirit in man that is related to the higher things in man. The spirit of man is definitely related to the conversion experience. The apostle Paul acknowledged “The Spirit itself [the Holy Spirit] beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God” (Rom. 8:16).

Man became a soul. Man is a soul.
Man’s body is an essential part of his constitution, so much so that he would not be man without a body. But in the second place, man is immaterial. This is the life of God that entered man when God breathed into him and he became a living soul. Man became immortal and will live forever because God, his source, is eternal. Since man was made in the image of God who created all things, man has creative abilities, to rule the physical earth.
biblesprout.com

Man is not a spirit. He has a spirit.

CLICK THESE BLUE LETTERS

Why didn't you cite from gotquestions.org like you did for soul?

 

[Rescued One]

We actually are a soul as a figure of speech only, and we do have a soul. This is what most people fail to understand.

Genesis 2
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

 

[Rescued One]

Why didn't you cite from gotquestions.org like you did for soul?

You're welcome to look at both sources.

The soul and the spirit are the two primary immaterial parts that Scripture ascribes to humanity. It can be confusing to attempt to discern the precise differences between the two. The word spirit refers only to the immaterial facet of humanity. Human beings have a spirit, but we are not spirits. However, in Scripture, only believers are said to be spiritually alive (1 Corinthians 2:11; Hebrews 4:12; James 2:26), while unbelievers are spiritually dead (Ephesians 2:1–5; Colossians 2:13). In Paul’s writing, the spiritual is pivotal to the life of the believer (1 Corinthians 2:14; 3:1; Ephesians 1:3; 5:19; Colossians 1:9; 3:16). The spirit is the element in humanity that gives us the ability to have an intimate relationship with God. Whenever the word spirit is used, it refers to the immaterial part of humanity that “connects” with God, who Himself is spirit (John 4:24).
https://www.gotquestions.org/soul-spirit.html

 

[ewq1938]

Genesis 2
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

That's only one definition of what a soul is...another is something intangible that is within us like our spirit.

 

[ewq1938]

You're welcome to look at both sources.

Just is odd to cite one definition from one place, and then go to another site for the other definition.

 

[Rescued One]

Just is odd to cite one definition from one place, and then go to another site for the other definition.

Who says I can't be odd?

 

[ewq1938]

Who says I can't be odd?

haha, I don't have a come back to that one! You're clever.