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Is the whole global warming thing fake?

Discussion in 'The Junk Drawer' started by Mountainmanbob, May 17, 2019.

  1. Zanting

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    Again...there are many variables that impact our ozone, weather...climate...

    A Violent Sun Affects the Earth’s Ozone
     
  2. Jonathan Walkerin

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    I guess it is a good thing you are not a medical doctor.

    Patient comes to complain about chest pains and instead of tests you would give a nice lecture how health is impacted by so many variables that it is really pointless to examine anything and the patient could just as well drag himself home to die.
     
  3. grasping the after wind

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    Then would your preferred drivel be -we do not know so let's do something that makes us feel virtuous and caring even if it may have no positive effect whatsoever on the climate and may be a net negative for the human population of the planet?
     
  4. grasping the after wind

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    Better than a doctor that assumes that a patient with chest pains needs emergency bypass surgery only to find out after the patient dies on the operating table that the cause of the pain was heartburn.
     
  5. Jonathan Walkerin

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    I will leave the "we do not know" drivel for you guys. We have a good idea what is happening and the case is getting stronger all the time. You are feel to support Koch brothers meantime before the evidence becomes overwhelming.

    Scientific consensus on climate change - Wikipedia

    Maybe we will still have some biodiversity left at that point or as seems to be the case in the belief that the Lord will suddenly somehow either end everything or save us from our own stupidity so no actions are needed.
     
  6. grasping the after wind

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    So if I disagree with you, bring out a boogeyman and say I am one of the boogeyman' minions. that's a real persuasive argument you got there. I can't understand why anyone would not find it convincing.
     
  7. Jonathan Walkerin

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    Well you got something right. I will leave this educational video here to help you out.

     
  8. Zanting

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    Good deflection...
     
  9. Jonathan Walkerin

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    Deflection is only needed if something of substance is thrown at you. This would not be the case here. Just bit of simplification for people in need of it since many things are so hard to understand apparently.
     
  10. Zanting

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  11. Curtis.Hilliker

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    Genesis 8:22 "As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease."

    Why are we worrying about climate change?
     
  12. Yarddog

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    Global temps are rising and that is fact. Glaciers are melting incredibly fast and right wing sites like the Heartland Institute rely on the ignorance of their readers to push their propaganda.
     
  13. Think...

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    Ok, ...ok. I'll be the one to say it....

    There is a very real variable that is not being discussed here.

    And Angels don't play this HAARP.
     
  14. ralfyman

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    Not fake according to the National Academy of Sciences and other science groups worldwide.
     
  15. FaithLife1

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    Great scripture. God controls the weather.
     
  16. Anthony Edgar

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    The earth has a history of going through cycles of heating and cooling, so we could be experiencing a heating cycle now, in which case, I can't see how scientists could possibly distinguish between what is heating due to nature and what is heating due to pollution. So I suspect the global warming thing is a bit of a beat-up - but it doesn't really bother me, as it's having a welcome effect - governments worldwide are cracking down on all forms of pollution. (I remember several years ago listening to an story on BBC Radio, in which a high-ranking Green Peace official admitted that, if they (the greenies) didn't exaggerate things, no one would take any notice of them. Then there was the ClimateGate scandal, in which scientists from Oxford University actually fudged the figures in a report (destined for the UN) to make temperatures appear higher than what they really were.)
     
  17. klutedavid

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    Yes, but the warming cycle we are in presently is extremely rapid. So rapid that the scientists easily dismiss the idea that we are in a natural cycle.

    Glaciers are retreating very quickly and many countries such as mine are in a continuous drought, due to an ever declining rainfall.

    If you just examine the temperature readings over the last one hundred years, you will notice an increasing temperature across the decades.

    I think I remember that the last five years contain the hottest years ever recorded.

    You can't pump ever increasing amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere and not notice any difference. Cutting down forests worldwide has greatly amplified the CO2 levels also.

    No one can deny global warming because it is a scientific fact. Though I do believe that the opponents to climate change are decreasing in number. Due to the alarming, and ever increasing temperature statistics from around the world.

    Soon no one will deny the reality that mankind has directly altered the worldwide climate.
     
  18. Zanting

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    Except for all the scientists world wide who disagree.
     
  19. ralfyman

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    Actually, the studies vetted by the NAS came from these scientists.
     
  20. Think...

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    (emphasis mine)

    I can't speak to whether the majority of people will see it, or admit it, but you couldn't be more correct about the emboldened portion of your statement, here.

    Climate Change = undeniable, undebatable, absolutely empirical (plainly observed through experience of the senses) to anyone with common sense.....who's also paying attention.

    Global Warming = Hoax, completely unprovable by science as a natural, repeating, occurrence in the history of the world, has been disproven by many scientists all over the world.

    HAARP = multiple facilities located all over the world; admitted by military and government officials to be capable of altering the weather; utilizes gaseous chemicals, injected into the atmosphere via chemtrails from jets, that act as a magnifying agent to the UV rays of the sun, ultimately heating the earth more and more over time; can be used to trigger large storm systems via heating of air around them and can actually 'guide' them by these means.

    Activity from HAARP installations began in 1992. Unprecedented weather catastrophes coincided with its use during this timeframe:

    Melting Polar Ice Sheets: since 1992 the polar ice sheets have been melting more than ever before in recorded history; raising sea levels at an accelerating rate; the condition of these regions is 'directly' related to world climate; affecting ocean currents and weather patterns all over the world;

    Unnatural Tornadoes: May 3, 1999; fourteen tornadoes decimated the cities of Moore and OK city, Oklahoma in one night; 44 people were killed, nothing like it has ever been recorded before or since.

    Hurricane Katrina: Aug. 23-31, 2005; 1,833 dead; costliest tropical cyclone on record; $125 billion in damage.

    Hurricane Maria: Sept. 16 to Oct. 2, 2017; 3,057 dead; $91.6 billion in damage.

    Hurricane Harvey: August 17 – September 2, 2017; 107 dead; $125 billion in damage.

    Hurricane Irma: August 30– September 13, 2017; 134 dead; $77.2 billion in damage.

    Unprecedented flooding:

    Why Is This Happening? Unprecedented Flooding Has Hit The U.S. Within The Last 30 Days

    Unprecedented Floods Across The United States Are About To Get Even Worse

    Unprecedented winter weather:

    Early 2014 North American cold wave - Wikipedia

    'Life-threatening' Arctic blast to freeze nearly 200 million as Polar Vortex attacks U.S.

    World in grip of ‘high impact weather’ as US freezes, Australia sizzles, parts of South America deluged

    And many more outside the U.S.

    Regardless of what you know (or believe) about HAARP, it is a rock-solid factual variable when considering any of the anomalous weather we have 'all' been experiencing, increasingly, in our home environments in recent years. Even if HAARP was only tinkered with a few times, here and there (which is not the case), it has the capability of throwing our entire world weather system out of whack, and should be considered very seriously in light of all the corroborating evidence.

    Just ask yourself,
    "Have you seen any 'good' weather lately?"
     
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