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IMHO it is not the 2nd coming that we have to wait for in order to be immune to the 2nd death. Immunity to the 2nd death is obtained, according to Jesus, by believing in Him. I would argue this has been happening to all believers since the 1st advent.
John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.
Whoever believes in Me will live, even though he dies. And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son,
that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
IMHO, revelation 20, is a parable given in the form of a vision to John.
1.) According to the gospel and epistlolic narrative, Jesus is the 1st resurrection. There is no mention of another 1st physical bodily resurrection apart from Jesus in the gospel/epistles:
1 Corinthians 15:23 But each in his own turn:
Christ the firstfruits; then at His coming, those who belong to Him.
colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning,
the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent
revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness,
the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth.
John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “
I am the resurrection and the life.
2.) And those that partake in this first resurrection, are born again to never be hurt by the 2nd death and to become a kingdom of priests to God. Such is the narrative of the gospels and epistles, that all who believe in Jesus partake in His resurrection to be born again and a kingdom of priests.
Colossians 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism,
in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead
Ephesians 2:5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved
And here are the results of us being buried with Him in baptism and raised with his resurrection according to the gospel and epistolic narrative:
revelation 20:5-6 The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection!
1.) The second death has no power over them,
2.) but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
A.) The 2nd death already has no power over the believer. Per Jesus, those who believe in Him will never die.
John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.
Whoever believes in Me will live, even though he dies. And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only
e Son,
that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
According to Jesus, the one who overcomes will not be hurt by the 2nd death. So what does it mean to "overcome" ?
Revelation 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches
. The one who overcomes will not be harmed by the second death.
According to John, "overcoming" has to with faith in Christ, which corresponds to Jesus' teaching that those who believe in Him will never die.
1 John 5:4 because everyone born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world: our faith.
B.) According to Peter, the body of Christ is already a ROYAL priest hood to God.
1 Peter 2:5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house
to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ
1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light
Everything you said in your post is 100% true and an accurate reflection of the scriptures you quote, which are beautiful and uplifting scriptures that fill my heart with joy and thanksgiving and praise to God and the Lord Jesus Christ very often (not every time but very often) when I read them (as happened again while I was reading your post); and we can only praise our Lord and Savior for those promises (which are also statements of fact).
So I'm going to tell you why I still don't believe the thousand years is symbolic (but this is just me, and I don't expect anyone to agree with me, and in a big way I'm
glad there are people who do not agree with me, because I could be wrong:
Even though what you say is true in your post, based on the scriptures you give, in my mind, and to my way of thinking, it does not prove Amil - and the reasons why I say this remain the reasons I gave in my OP in this thread: I do not believe Satan has been bound or "bound in a manner" or "restricted" in the way Amils believe he is (any more than he always was restricted by God between the time of the fall of Adam and the time of Christ). Neither do I believe that the Greek word χιλιάς chiliás leaves any room for a symbolic interpretation of the thousand years.
Neither do I see any reason whatsoever, when reading the text in the Revelation, to believe that Revelation 20 does not follow chronologically in time after Revelation 19:11-21.
So I go with this:
Otherwise, the 1,000 years that separates 2 future resurrection becomes new information not previously taught by Jesus in the gospels or the apostles in their epistles.
The Revelation is the final Revelation of God, so yes, it complements and completes all prophecy which came before it, and all Revelation which came before it.
So as a result of what I put into my OP in this thread, and as a result of what my mind and my thinking and my brain causes me to see, what I see is that when the saints are resurrected at the time of the appearance of Christ in glory,
the rest who had not died in Christ, remain dead for a thousand years. These are only delivered up from death and hades after the thousand years
(and after Satan is loosed [again] at the close of the thousand years, and has gathered his Gog-Magog armies against the camp of the saints, and these have been destroyed by fire coming down from God out of heaven; and after Satan has been cast into the lake of fire. Death and hades are them destroyed in the lake of fire where by this time, Satan is and the beast & false prophet are.
So therefore, yes - I see more than one "Day of the LORD": one when the beast is destroyed by Christ at His appearance, and a final one which the Revelation calls the Great White Throne.
I also believe that this is implied in the following promises - the existence of people who at least certain of the saints will be reigning over during the thousand years:
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.
And he who overcomes and keeps My works to the end, to him I will give power over the nations.
And he will rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of a potter they will be broken to pieces, even as I received from My Father.
And Jesus said to them, Truly I say to you that you who have followed Me,
in the regeneration, when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of His glory, you also shall sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
(Rev 2:11 and 26-27; mat 19:28)
Hebrews 2:8 does not merely imply, but actually states that during the current age, we see not yet all things having been placed under Christ's feet.
In 1 Cor 15, Paul does not mention the resurrection of those who
do not belong to Christ at His coming. To be fair, though, neither 1 Cor 15 nor 2 Peter 3 mention a thousand years following the Lord's appearance - but the Revelation is the final Revelation of God, and complements all Revelation that came before it regarding the end times and what follows, so I have no problem with the idea of new information being given. There is in fact, a great deal of new information given in the Revelation.
So my brain does not allow me to ignore the things I mentioned in my OP in this thread - but I'm
glad there are many who disagree with me (aside from the many who agree with me), because I could be wrong.