RBPerry said:
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With all due respect, there is mention of the Saturday sabbath, Col 2:13-16, also regarding foods, Acts 10:11-15. Mathew 15:11-18
I’m sorry, friend, I am confused by the verses you have cited. Maybe you meant Col 2: 16-18 where Paul a Jew says “let nobody pass judgement on you with questions on food or drink or festival or new moon or sabbath.”
Indeed. Matt 7 "Judge not that you be not judged" is a pre-cross rule that still applies in the NT according to Col 2:16. But since you added vs 18 -- lets quote through 22 - to see that what is being condemned in Col 2 - is not only the judging-others problem that Christ condemned in Matt 7, but it is also condemning "making stuff up" -- ie man-made-traditions just as Christ did in Mark 7:6-13
16 Therefore, no one is to act as your judge in regard to food and drink, or in respect to a festival or a new moon, or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are
only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. 18
Take care that no one keeps defrauding you of your prize by delighting in humility and
the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, 19 and not holding firmly to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.
20 If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees,
such as, 21 “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” 22 (which all
refer to things destined to perish with use)—
in accordance with the commandments and teachings of man?
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Acts also in its most literal sense does away with food laws for followers of Christ, but in context it’s about the inclusion of Gentiles into the family of God.
1. Acts 10 reminds us that even as late as that date - Peter was not eating rat sandwiches. (instead of the wild claim that he was doing such things as a result of following Christ).
2. Acts 10 and 11 remind us that when Peter reports the vision and explains it to others -- not once is the lesson "so now we can eat rat sandwiches" -- instead it is also the message "call no MAN unclean" -- not "call no RAT unclean".
Mathew 15:11-18 and Mark 7:6-13 provide the same message about eating "bread" with hands that have not been "baptized" to wash sin off of them.
The Matthew verses again is Jesus saying the food laws aren’t the end all be all.
Not true at all since there were no food laws saying not to eat wheat or bread if your hands were not baptized or the pots and plates were not baptized.
Hmm lets actually read the text and get some Bible details.
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Mark 7
The Pharisees and some of the scribes *gathered to Him after they came from Jerusalem, 2 and saw that some of His disciples were
eating their bread with
unholy hands, that is, unwashed. 3 (For the Pharisees and all the
other Jews do not eat unless they carefully wash their hands,
thereby holding
firmly to the tradition of the elders; 4 and
when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they
completely cleanse themselves; and there are many other things which they have
received as traditions to firmly hold,
such as the washing of cups, pitchers, and copper pots.)
So there we see that these are specifically man-made-traditions of the Jews not at all in scripture - and they deal with purifying themselves, their hands their pots to cleanse from sin after coming "from the marketplace" (read -- contact with gentiles).
5 And the Pharisees and the scribes *asked Him, “Why do Your disciples
not walk in accordance with the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with
unholy hands?” 6 But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 And in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as
doctrines the commandments of men.’
8
Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the
tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at
setting aside the commandment of God in order to
keep your tradition. 10 For
Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother, is certainly to be put to death’; 11
but you say, ‘If a person says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is, given
to God),’ 12 you no longer allow him to do anything for
his father or
his mother; 13
thereby invalidating the word of God by your tradition which
you have handed down; and
you do many things such as that.”
Instead of Jesus teaching "ignore the commandment of God after all it is nothing more than -- Moses said" what Jesus said is - their man-made-traditions where what should be ignored.
