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Is The GOD OF BIBLE Same as GOD OF QURAN??

Discussion in 'For New Christians' started by kirthika, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. kirthika

    kirthika Lover_Of_Jesus

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    Hi My brothers and sisters in Christ,I always have this doubt,I come from a hindu family,Got saved a year back,understanding the salvation of God through Jesus,Because I am a new Believer,I always have this doubt,Are The god which we christians Serve the same God as God of quran?? There are lots of muslims who say to me that because BIBLE is corrupted by people,God gave a final revealation to Mohammed who is their prophet,which is in Book called Quran,How far is this inference True?? When God has chosen lots of prophets like isiah,daniel,jeremah and many,whose prophecies all have come true then,How come biible be corrupted,Furthermore they claim that Jesus whom I worship is just another Prophet,And I am sinning By exalting a prophet Equivalent To God,They give lot of references from quran,Where the prophet isa in their book claims"Worship allah Only,who is my and your God",But Jesus clearly says"I and father are one" and "I am the way,the truth,and The life",Furthermore they claim that I will Go to hell For worshipping a man as God instead Of worshipping The God Almighty,But i dont think the muslim claims are Right,Friends please HELP TO TAKE THIS CONFUSION OUT,furthermore they ask in BIble saying "Where did Jesus say I am God worship Me??" Friends please help
     
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  2. nChrist

    nChrist AKA: Tom - Saved By Grace Supporter

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    Mohammad is a false prophet who serves a false god with a little "g". Mohammad's god doesn't have a son. Further, the quran is not from God. The real God is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit - yet the holy three are one. Jesus Christ was and is God, one with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. The Holy Bible is God's Word. I hope this helps you.
     
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  3. rocknanchor

    rocknanchor How the Lord Hears You - James 4:3 Supporter

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  4. Alithis

    Alithis Diciple of Jesus .

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    No.!
    Emphatically NO
     
  5. derpytia

    derpytia Compassion. Supporter

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    No. Allah is not the same as God. Allah does not love humans and impossible to get close to in a personal way while God is. They are not the same at all.
     
  6. Alithis

    Alithis Diciple of Jesus .

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    The god of the Qur'an is NOT the GOD off the bible.

    Yes Jesus is God speaking in the form of man .to listen to him is listening to God.
     
  7. Radagast

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    The Bible is not corrupted. We have extremely old manuscripts of the Bible, and they read the same as modern versions.

    As to Jesus, check out the official CF Statement of Faith (see link at top right of screen):

    We believe in... ONE Lord Jesus Christ, (Acts of the Apostles 11:17)
    the Son of God, (Matthew 14:33; Matthew 16:16)
    the Only-Begotten, (John 1:18; John 3:16)
    Begotten of the Father before all ages. (John 1:2)
    Light of Light; (Psalms 27:1; John 8:12; Matthew 17:2,5)
    True God of True God; (John 17:1-5)
    Begotten, not made; (John 1:18)
    of one essence with the Father; (John 10:30)
    by whom all things were made; (Hebrews 1:1-2)
    Who for us men and for our salvation (1 Timothy 2:4-5)
    came down from Heaven, (John 6:33; John 6:35)
    and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, (Luke 1:35)
    and became man. (John 1:14)
    And was crucified for us (Mark 15:25; 1 Corinthians 15:3)
    under Pontius Pilate, (John 19:6)
    and suffered, (Mark 8:31)
    and was buried. (Luke 23:53; 1 Corinthians 15:4)
    And the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures. (Luke 24:1; 1 Corinthians 15:4)
    And ascended into Heaven, (Luke 24:51; Acts of the Apostles 1:10)
    and sits at the right hand of the Father. (Mark 16:19; Acts of the Apostles 7:55)
    And He shall come again with glory (Matthew 24:27)
    to judge the living and the dead; (Acts of the Apostles 10:42; 2 Timothy 4:1)
    whose Kingdom shall have no end. (2 Peter 1:11)
     
  8. ambc

    ambc Mark 12:30-31

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    Islam is an Abrahamic religion like Judaism and Christianity. In other words, these three religions adhere to the same deity.

    There are people on this thread saying that Allah and God are different. They don't realize that Arabic Christians refer to God as "Allah," just like Muslims do.

    The question isn't whether Christianity and Islam have the same deity; it's whether Islam was inspired by the Holy Spirit. In my opinion, Islam was not inspired by God's spirit because this religion denies the divinity and redemptive power of Jesus.
     
  9. DreamerOfTheHeart

    DreamerOfTheHeart Love is the Foundation of Truth

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    Okay, so having read the koran, as well as many other human religious, scientific, and other material of like nature... no. As Jesus said of the Samaritans, who were as the people of Arabia and the children of Ishmael, "They do not know who they worship".

    It is, of course, worse for those who have been lied to by demons. As it is with those who believe in Islam. So, it is, we can all plainly see, Islam does not even claim to have any power. It has none. So, at best, people use it as it teaches this, to try their own hand to prove it. By violence.

    It was a great excuse to unite tribes.

    And to start wars...

    But, as for Heavenly power, obviously, it is empty.

    So as it is, a spectacle for humans and angels, the depraved and God forsaken state of the nations which espouse it.

    A few city states have been blessed with prosperity, but this is as dressing an ape in a tuxedo.

    The whole land where Islam rules is clear to all as that of a curse.

    No one pretends to power, at least, from God or Heaven, they seem to believe if their only power is by their own might.

    Which ultimately is but for ridicule.
     
  10. tonemonkey

    tonemonkey New Member

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    If the god of Islam and the God of Israel don't act the same way, do the same things, and relate the same way to humanity then they are not the same. That's like saying, "I call Ba'al God, so that makes him the same as the God of Israel. I say God, you say God, so they're both the same."
     
  11. ambc

    ambc Mark 12:30-31

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    While I recognize that God's character in the Qur'an was very much misrepresented by Muhammad, it doesn't change the the fact that Jews, Christians, and Muslims adhere to the same deity. How does Muhammad's misrepresentation of God mean that Islam isn't an Abrahamic religion? Also, did you read the part of my previous post where I said that Arabic Christians refer to God as "Allah"?
     
  12. nChrist

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    Muhammad's god with a little "g" is a false god and had no Son. Jesus Christ was just a prophet according to Muhammad. In short, Muhammad formed a false religion - stealing much from the Holy Bible.
     
  13. seashale76

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    I'm not an expert on Islam, but I have read the Quran (I once found a website that listed three English translations side by side and took advantage of it). There is one problem I've seen (more educated folks than me discovered it) regarding God as presented in the Quran.

    Muslims say that Jesus is the Word of God and Spirit. It says this in the Quran regarding Jesus.

    Kalima tullah;"The Word of Allah (God)
    Ruhun min Allah;"A spirit from Allah (God)."

    If so, and to all evidence the Quran does seem to claim this about Jesus, and since they believe that Jesus isn't God, then they have a serious problem. If Christ isn't God, then they believe that God is without word or spirit.

    In light of this, I say that Muslims don't worship the same God as Christians. Muhammad took the things he saw Christians doing and made up his own religion without having anywhere near a complete understanding of the implications of certain things. Another example: Even Muslims believe that Jesus was born of a virgin. Muhammad certainly wasn't. They have no concept of why that is an important thing and the implication of it.

    In the Christian scriptures we are told that Christ is God the Word. This is flat out acknowledging that Christ is part of the Holy Trinity. Muslims do not believe this.
     
  14. Apostleoftruth

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    No different , even the description of god in quran and bible is different. Well the story inside the manual is looks the same but somehow different.
     
  15. Sketcher

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    They get the name right, but they get the theology wrong. Allah means "the God" and Christian Arabs called him by that name before Mohammed was even born. However, God as Islam teaches him to be is different from God as Christianity teaches him to be. Christians hold that God is big enough to reign in Heaven (the Father) while simultaneously manifesting himself through flesh and living as an example to all of us (the Son) and performing miraculous works among us (the Holy Spirit). We hold that God is big enough to be more complex than we can understand, complex in his unity, allowing for a Trinity - neither confounding the three Persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), nor dividing the substance (God). Muslims believe that God is simpler than that, and that he would never lower himself to taking on flesh. Which to me, is a smaller god than the one I follow. The Christian God doesn't have to be simple enough for people to understand, and he, through Jesus, led us from the front. An entirely superior being and leader than Allah as Muslims preach him.

    Muslims teach that the Bible was corrupted by men, but this is an article of faith to them rather than anything substantiated by fact. The Case For Christ by Lee Strobel gets into how faithfully and thoroughly the New Testament was preserved over the years, and considering all of that, there isn't a big enough time window in my estimation for a serious perversion of the message of Jesus to take place.

    In John 10:27-33, he made a divine claim.
    Jesus also accepted worship, angels do not.

    BTW, this is a scripted question that they have, Muslims who are doing outreach always seem to ask this to Christians. They're following their script. When they've come to the end of their script, my experience is that they leave you alone after that.
     
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  16. Jonathan Leo

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    Agreed.
     
  17. Albion

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    It's not the "same" deity, not any more than the God of the Book of Mormon--three humans, actually, who ascended and became spirit beings, with wives, etc. etc.--is the "same" just because the same names of terms of reference are used.

    That's also the case with the Islamic Allah, which is derived IN PART from the God of the Bible but is amalgamated with other concepts and is, in the end, quite different from the God of the Old Testament.

    Yes, but that's just the word for God. It doesn't mean that the God of each one is the same as the God of the other one.
     
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