When I offer people data / info in how they can improve their search - Not my search but theirs it is expected that they do they search and not expect me to do it for them
What data? I am still waiting on your source for post 70ad evidence, so I can look it up for myself. You still have not provided that.
to say that the 6th seal has happened - it is required to accept the fact that all the other seals , trumpets and bowls have happened as well because ALL of them happen in no more than I'll go the extra mile and say 3 decades , but much more likely to be less than one decade / like 7 years - so suffice to say that if the 6th seal has happened then there will be much physical tangible evidence of ALL the destruction described in book of Revelation -not just part of it - it cannot be any other way
Right off the bat, we know the events that John is going to prophecy about will SOON TAKE PLACE
Revelation 1:1-4
The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what
MUST SOON TAKE PLACE. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it,
because THE TIME IS NEAR.
Seal #1
Revelation 6:1 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown,
and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
Luke 21:9 When you hear of
wars and uprisings, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.”
**Historically, there were many wars within the Roman empire during this time, as Jesus prophesied.
Seal #2
revelation 6:3-4 When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” Then another horse came out, a fiery red one.
Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.
Luke 21:10 Then he said to them: “
Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
**Historically, there were many wars within the Roman empire during this time, as Jesus prophesied
Seal #3
Revelatoin 6: 5-6 When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.
6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying,
“Two poundsa of wheat for a day’s wages,b and six poundsc of barley for a day’s wages,d and do not damage the oil and the wine!”
Luke 21:11 There will be great earthquakes,
famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.
**Josephus records that rich people sold all they had for wheat and poor people sold all they had for barley during a severe famine that plagued Jerusalem leading up to its destruction
Seal #4
Revelation 6:7-8 When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!”
8I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to
kill by sword,
famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
Luke 21:10-11 Then he said to them: “
Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. Luke There will be great earthquakes,
famines and
pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.
**historically there were wars, famines, and pestilences that occurred during this time period, as Jesus predicted
Seal #5
Revelation 6:9-10 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the
souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.
10They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”
Luke 21:12-13 But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. They will hand you over to synagogues and put you in prison, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. And so you will bear testimony to me.
**the apostles were persecuted and killed during this time period as Jesus predicted.
Seal #6 (a)
Revelation 6:12-14 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,
13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.
14The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.
Luke 21:25 There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea.
**In Luke 21 Jesus uses the language from Isaiah 13 in conjunction with Jerusalem's destruction. In Isaiah 13, apocalyptic language is used in regards to the destruction of Babylon by medo-persia. Interestingly enough, the great harlot, aka the great city, aka the city where Jesus was crucified, is also called Babylon the great. The prostitute is destroyed by a 7 headed beast that is very similar to the beasts in Daniel 7 (lion, bear, leopard, beast). This correlates with the destruction and trampling of Israel by (Babylon: lion, Persia: bear, Leopard: Greece, Beast: Rome.)
Seal #6 (b)
Revelation 6:15-17 Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. They called to
the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide usf from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
For the great day of theirg wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”
Luke 21:20-22 When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city.
For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. How
dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people.
Luke 23:28-30 But turning to them Jesus said, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me, but weep for yourselves and for your children.
29For behold, the days are coming when they
will say, ‘Blessed are the barren and the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!’
30Then they will begin to say to the mountains, ‘Fall on us,’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us.
When people say that Jesus is reigning over earth now is not including a massive amount of scripture -
Which then if you do not accept that then it requires dozens of posts to prove it and I do not have the kind of time to do it -
There is no "massive" amount of scripture that shows Jesus is not reigning now In fact the early Church was persecuted for believing Jesus was their current King:
Acts 17:6-7 And when they could not find them, they dragged Jason and some of the brothers before the city authorities, shouting, “These men who have turned the world upside down have come here also,
7and Jason has received them, and they are all acting against the decrees of Caesar,
saying that there is another king, Jesus.”
The fact that all 7 seals , 7 trumpets , 7 bowls happen in succession - once they start they do not stop till all is finished
There is no evidence of any seals , trumpets , or bowls being done and since Jesus spoke in
Luke 23 nearly 2000 years ago and no evidence of any type is found to prove the 7 seals , 7 trumpets , 7 bowls happened , the only sensible understanding there is , Is to accept that they have not yet happened , but will happen
To try to say that things have happened when there is no proof of it ;is not accepting the fact that is has not yet happened
There is in fact evidence: Do you we see a temple still standing in Jerusalem? No, it was destroyed just as Jesus had prophesied.
Luke 25:5-7
5And while some were speaking of the temple, how it was adorned with noble stones and offerings, he said,
6“As for these things that you see, the days will come when there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” And they asked him,
“Teacher, when will these things be, and what will be the sign when these things are about to take place?”
You can be speaking to someone who has no use of their arms and legs and describe to them saying -
'when you are snow skiing in the Alps the air is so crisp and clean '
obviously the you in reference there is not the person you are speaking to
So there were no false prophets during the generation of the disciples?
So there were no famines, pestilence, or earthquakes during the time of disciples?
So there was no persecution of the disciples during their generation?
Jerusalem was no surrounded by armies during the disciples generation?
The temple was not destroyed during the disciples generation?
All the 'you' in the olivet discourse are not actually directed toward the disciples?
So may be the disciples misunderstood Jesus and that is why they thought they were living in the last days at the end of the age?
