Not Gospel verses. You gave me some Verses from the letters in the New Testament- but nothing from Jesus nor the four gospels
. The remaining New Testament letters verses you gave me - I’ll read them soon - in their own language. You can possibly make a case that Paul or peter instructed their followers to obey (possibly). I’ll know after I’ve reread them
The three gospel verse - Jesus did not tell you to obey the authorities or the govt
There IS something in the Bible saying that government has a right to tax people and that Christians should pay that tax as rightful paymen to the government for their governance. Are you suggesting that the Bible is advocating STEALING?
Taxation, or tithing is obviously there in scripture, but that's a million miles from what we see in socialist policies.
How so? In fact, we see actual socialism as the model for the early Church. How is taxation related to tithing? It's not, not one bit - I don't know why you put the two in the same sentence. Taxation is clearly identified as the government's right to take from us to govern us, period. It's God's Word. We are to comply and obey and those who don't are facing damnation.
What a huge load of nonsense. You clearly have no idea what socialism is and you clearly are thinking about communism. And even then you don't know what communism really is.
No, YOU call it "a redistribution of wealth". Socialism is pooling resources and reallocating them so that the society as a whole will benefit the most. You know who does the most "redistribution of wealth" as you call it? American Conservatives. Yes, they take from the wealthy, productive, liberal cities and states and redistribute that to the poor, unproductive, conservative rural areas and states. Why aren't you or other conservatives crying and whining about that? Because the reality is that you people are also for socialism of some sort. The difference is that you only want socialism that benefits you and nobody else. It's self-driven. It's absolutely contrary to the Word of God.
Buying votes is exactly what conservatives do. "Vote for me and I will end this service and kill that service so YOU can have more MONEY in YOUR POCKET!!!" So you are clearly talking about the Republican party when you talk about a party getting power by "redistributing people's wealth". You just don't realize it because you listen to the propaganda they push, the false concept that they are against "redistribution of wealth" and "buying votes" when in fact that is their stock in trrade.
Have you been to Cuba? It's a beautiful tourist destination. I think Castro being a "brutal dictator" was part of propaganda. A big reason for the poverty issue is because the US imposed sanctions on them..
Oh, please.
Socialism will make everyone poor except the elites. People should be helping the poor on a personal level; it is not the job of the government.
I agree people SHOULD but people don't or obviously not enough because a very capitalist country like the US still has major poverty issues. So that's where the government steps in...
That's what the elites in those country's will tell their people. It is all America's fault. But instead of bringing everyone up to a middle class level, socialism takes everyone down to being poor.
No, it is not the governments job. The people support the government, the government does not support the people.
Well I don't agree with extreme socialism but in an extremely capitalist country like the US some government intervention is needed at times.
As soon as the government starts to intervene, you are on the path to extreme socialism. That is where the United States is heading. And if the Democrats win big this year, we may never stop it.
The Early Church adopted a communal (more extreme socialist) model, under the Apostles of Christ Himself:
On a personal level this is exactly how Christians should be. But this is not how the government should be. There is a huge difference between the two.
