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Is saying "holy crap" blasphemy?

Discussion in 'Non-denominational' started by MidnightCandel777, Jun 11, 2006.

  1. Blasphemy!!!!! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Not blasphemy. He can live a little while longer...

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  1. Lpe04

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    This is pretty ridiculous. I think what matters is the heart of an individual and what they are trying to say when they speak phrases. If this isn't causing someone to stumble and you are walking in love, then it is fine.
     
  2. JonF

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    I agree the heart of the individual is very important. But the words that come out of their mouth are also important. If I was to say GD but not mean it as blasphemy and my heart wasn’t in it, would that make it ok?
     
  3. Crispie

    Crispie Conservative Christian

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    Your better off not saying it, like the Bible says, don't say things that may be offensive to a fellow believer.
     
  4. gennfamily

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    edited.
     
  5. Gukkor

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    That would be the hardest essay in the world for me. You know why? Because there's really no true reason why we don't use profanity. Okay, so we don't use profanity because it might offend other people. Why are they offended? Because of what it might imply? They take no offense to the exact same implication if it's phrased differently. Is it because God gave us a list of words not to use at dawn of humanity that we must follow? No. No He didn't.

    If you really think about, any of the common explanations as to why we refrain from using profanity (nevermind the fact that what words are and aren't profanity are almost completely relative) all lead into an endless spiral of circular logic.
     
  6. gennfamily

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    edited. for offensiveness.
     
  7. Gukkor

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    No, I'm saying that in my opinion, what I'm saying is that words can't offend me, intent can. If people say "damn" is profanity while "darn" is not when they both mean the same thing and are used in the same way, something is wrong.
     
  8. gennfamily

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    edited. see apology.
     
  9. flyingsum0

    flyingsum0 Contributor Supporter

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    No.
     
  10. handmaiden97

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    I never really thought about it before, I say stuff like that sometimes....but truth is the only thing truly Holy is God and we who are in relationship with Him are hold as well through him...crap is nither God nor something that can be in relationship with Him so....maybe it is blasphemy....I will have t think twice next time Im tempted to say holy cow or something like that
     
  11. xapis

    xapis Soli Deo gloria!

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    Unholy crap might be a better way to put it. :idea:
     
  12. KATHXOYMENOC

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    Not if you're Batman or Robin.
     
  13. Mskedi

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    I'd go with no.
     
  14. Stan53

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    Said very much tongue in cheek:
    Off with yer 'ead!
     
  15. EdmundBlackadderTheThird

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    Damn is used in scripture and the meaning depends on context. Scripture cautions us on the use of coarse language but that is a societal issue. There are times when I am in a place that nothing can come out of my mouth and be considered coarse by anyone I am around and other times when even darn would offend someone. Words alone are just words and not in and of themselves faulty, vulgar, or offensive. It is only in the minds of humans that they become those things.

    If I am around someone who is not offended by anything commonly considered vulgar but uttering "Jesus Christ" if I stub my toe would offend them then I am free to say whatever else comes to mind even if the majority of people consider it offensive. We are talking about something entirely objective here. There is not a list of words that cannot be used by Christians nor should there be. That is legalism. The situation you are in, whatever situation that may be, defines what is acceptable. Words by themselves are entirely neutral no matter what our brains do with them. If we are offended by a word without consideration for intent then we have larger things to be concerned about than just words.

    Language changes. There are things we use as common vernacular that were in fact offensive fifty years ago and even moreso one hundred years ago. I expect that in another hundred years the things some are offended by today will be commonly used words with no stigma attached. This is the nature of language.
     
  16. bod44

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    If God alone is truly holy, then anything we call holy is therefore being raised to God's level or God is being lowered to said object's level. Its not the crap or the cow part that is blasphemy its blaspheming God because it puts God on the same level as a cow or crap. (God forbid.) Never really thought about it before though! lol The important thing as well as was mentioned earlier is whether its blasphemy or not, does it glorify God? If we are to be holy like God is holy in every aspect of our lives, then we probably should cut out quite a bit of our vain and useless slang etc.1Pe 1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
     
  17. gennfamily

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    edited. for worse than legalism
     
  18. EdmundBlackadderTheThird

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    This changes none of what I have said. There are things we use in everday language that were offensive 50 years ago or less. Offensive is a completely and totally subjective (used the wrong word in my last post). The scriptures you pointed out are not speaking of vulgarity and likely not even coarse language but rather, if anything, profanity. Profanity and vulgarity are similar but not the same. You can be vulgar without being profane. The cautions against coarse speech are the only references to the most common "offensive" words. The scriptures referenced are speaking of much greater issues than simple vulgarity because a word is only vulgar is someone hearing it considers it such. You will not find a word that was vulgar in scripture and is still vulgar today. There is no list of words Christians cannot utter. We should try and not offend but the scriptures posted, and applied to vulgarity, are worse than legalism they are just plain taken out of context.
     
  19. gennfamily

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    edited. worse than legalism
     
  20. Gukkor

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    But the only reason you even believe God thinks those words unclean is because of what other people think about them. Essentially, people read that the Bible says not to use coarse language, people hear words that they think of as coarse, and people then try to say that the Bible says these words are wrong. It's flawed logic to make an absolute statement like that when the belief is founded on one's personal opinion about a word (or rather societies opinion, in this case).

    Or are you suggesting that even speaking of excrement, for example, is ungodly under any circumstances, regardless of the word used? I imagine many farmers and gardners would have a hard time with that.
     
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