You've done some extensive work on this; you sound like a professor. I will have to challenge you on a number of verses. First of all, the question the disciples as was a three-part question. Jesus answers the question by going back and forth, outlining, then filling in details. You could start from vs. 5 and say that this was not fulfilled. Did many Christs come prior to 70 A.D. and make that claim? Or is it rather that he meant throughout the Church Age/generation that there would be many? vs. 6 Wars and rumors of wars? Was this also an occurrence the people of Jerusalem were concerned about? Only one really, that Rome would war against them. And then in vs 7, did the world experience "nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom" prior to 70A.D.? The Roman Empire had lasted until the fifth century. What nations or kingdoms were warring against each other prior to 70 A.D.? Vs. 9, "you will be hated by all nations ..."? Vs. 10-14 clearly describes a time that has nothing to do with Jerusalem, but way into the future, a time when the Christian faith had spread throughout the entire world. Jumping to vs 21 let's examine the statement, " ... great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now". The stress that came to Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was small change and had been surpassed in wars dozens of times over but this final end-time distress is outmatched, like never before. Even with the flood, the world was dead within days if not weeks except for Noah -- stress was short lived. The Great Tribulation will be 3 1/2 years and billions will die. vs. 22 "if those days weren't cut short no one would survive ..." This was not describing Jerusalem either.
vs. 29 describes either an eclipse or smoke from fire that blocks out the sun and then "stars falling from the sky" maybe meteors or missiles?
vs. 30, "the sign of the Son of Man that will appear in the sky ..." This very well may be the sign spoken of in Rev. 12:1, "a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head" This sign will appear on 9-23-17.
vs. 31 "the trumpet call" This date happens to be during the Feast of Trumpets.
I think vs 14 is the key to when all this happens: "and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world and then the end will come". We have about done that aye mate?
Hello good sir,
Yes, I have done my studies. However, I am merely doing what the gospel asks of me anyway (2 Timothy 4:2; 1 Thessalonians 5:21 for example).
So as I was reading your thoughts on this matter and I realized that that is just all they are, is your thoughts/belief. None of it was backed by any other scripture, just opinion for each verse. At the end you said that the whole key is v 14. If this is what your thoughts hinge on, then might I turn your attention to these verses here:
Colossians 1:5-6 and 23. As you can see in these three verses, Paul contends with you that the gospel WAS preached to all the world at that time. Supposedly, the book of Colossians was done around 60 AD while Paul was imprisoned. Just ten years before 70 AD.
In conclusion, if you did place your entire bet on v.14 being the key, what Paul said in those three verses puts a rather large hole in your ideas on Matt. 24.
As for the rest of what you said verse by verse, you have no scriptural support for this. Just your opinions. What I have revealed in each post, harmonizes with multiple books of the bible such as Daniel, Revelation, Luke, and Matthew (among others not listed here). Throughout this thread I have revealed those scriptural supports.
See the example of the "the abomination of desolation": Luke totally harmonizes with Matthew 24:4-34. See Luke 21:20-32. We know for a fact, this already happened.
Also see this key verse here in Matthew 24:34. Jesus JUST got done speaking to them of all these "signs" and then tells them that "this generation shall not pass away, TILL ALL these things be fulfilled". Either there are some two thousand year old people walking around now or this already happened.
Now that just leaves you with the transition word I was talking about. Verse 36 of Matthew 24, "But of THAT DAY...". There will be no warnings, no signs, and no announcements. You can also read even further into it about the example of Noah and the flood in verses 37-39. Jesus will come like a "thief" and a thief will give no warning, they just come and your left surprised.
Lastly, the three parts you were talking about for the disciples questions. I only see two questions in verse 3 of Matt. 24.
"...the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?"
Question 1:Tell us, when shall these things be? (in reference to the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem)
Question 2:what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? (In reference to when the end of the world will be and IF there are signs) Verse 36 "but of that day..." no one knows but God the Father.
Maybe elaborate on the "three part" more as I didn't see where you explained that. Maybe I am missing it in your verse by verse thoughts.
Thank you sir for your polite and engaging discussion with me. May we hope to "reason together" (Isaiah 1:18).
