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Featured Is Mary the Mother of the Church or of all Christians?

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by David Cabrera, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. David Cabrera

    David Cabrera Well-Known Member

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    Regardless if you believe the Catholic or the Orthodox Church is the truth Church, is the Virgin Mary the Mother of all who profess the Nicene Creed, even if they don't venerate her?
     
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  2. bcbsr

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    I vote for "neither". Though I'm not a Catholic or Orthodox. You might wanted to have posted to one of their safehouse forums to prevent the rest of us from interjecting comments.
     
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  3. Tree of Life

    Tree of Life O Lord, do not treat me as I have treated others! Supporter

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    If the church has a mother then she would be Old Testament Israel of whom Mary was a prominent member.
     
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  4. Philip_B

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    In an archetypal sense Mary, Mary shows obedience to God in carry Christ into the world - hence theotokos. We are Christians - The Church - are called to obedience to God to carry Christ into the world.

    When we declare the mystical communion of all faithful people to be the Body of Christ, does that not mean in some realistic sense Mary is Mother of us all.
     
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  5. David Cabrera

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    The Church is Israel.
     
  6. Hazelelponi

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    God created man out of dust, He created through man alone (eve from Adam's rib), He created through woman alone (Jesus).

    What God has done, is prove He can create.

    What has never been proven, is that the church has a female mother in Mary. Our only mother is "The Jerusalem that is above", represented by or personified in Sarah..

    That Mary is a mother to us is an extra biblical tradition that wasn't taught in scripture.
     
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  7. David Cabrera

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    What do you mean in some realistic sense.
     
  8. David Cabrera

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    It is an ancient Christian Tradition.
     
  9. Hazelelponi

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    I'll stick with the teaching of scripture.
     
  10. HTacianas

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    It is appropriate to say she is all of those.
     
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  11. Hazelelponi

    Hazelelponi Just someone with no business here

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    No.. it is absolutely not appropriate.
     
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  12. David Cabrera

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    Scripture doesn't exist in a vacuum.
     
  13. David Cabrera

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    Why, if I might ask?
     
  14. Hazelelponi

    Hazelelponi Just someone with no business here

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    Nor it is something you get to make up..
     
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  15. HTacianas

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    Because that is the teaching of the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
     
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  16. David Cabrera

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    I didn't make it up, the Bible is part of the Church who is the Bride of Christ.
     
  17. David Cabrera

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    Ok, fair enough.
     
  18. Hazelelponi

    Hazelelponi Just someone with no business here

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    Nvm.. not addressed to me.
     
  19. Ron Gurley

    Ron Gurley What U See is What U Get!

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    Galatians 4:4
    But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law,

    Genesis 3:15
    And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.”

    Luke 1
    26 Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee called Nazareth,
    27 to a virgin engaged to a man whose name was Joseph, of the descendants of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.
     
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  20. David Cabrera

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    Ok, I am not been rude.
    You should understand that the Bible wasn't dictated by God word for word but it was inspired by the Spirit of God. In the same way, we know what Scriptures is because of the Church which also had the Holy Spirit whom he guided them. So I am not making any fantasies.
     
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