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Is Joe Biden admitting to getting a quid pro quo?

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by Need answers, Mar 26, 2020 at 9:29 PM.

  1. Need answers

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  2. now faith

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    Yes He does not care, there will be no consequences.
    He will run with a crazy vice President, if by chance He gets elected he will wonder around in his own little world, while she destroys the Nation.
    The left has held this Nation hostage for almost 12 years.
    They are above the law, they threaten violence against anyone who try's to stop the carnage.
    We cannot even go to Church, because people believe every word of propaganda spewed by the media.

    I hope Christ returns in my life time.
     
  3. Aldebaran

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    Their only goal is to beat Trump in 2020. They've admitted as much when they've been polled about what their priorities are. If Biden is the best they can get, they'll take him, no matter what damage he would end up causing--even during a national (or global emergency) like we're in now. But that's what hatred for the president looks like when it's in full gear (courtesy of the party of hope, change, tolerance, unity, love, and equality.)
     
  4. now faith

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    it is not hatred of the President it is hatred of God.
    We are in a delusion.
     
  5. OldWiseGuy

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    He admitted it, but that's only half of the story (which was buried by the media).
     
  6. Need answers

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    Notice the media is silent on this. Fake news often fails to report the whole story, this is proof.
     
  7. Mountainmanbob

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    I'm glad that someone is paying attention here.
    There is still hope.
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  8. OldWiseGuy

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    I'm surprised they haven't buried the video of Biden bragging about it.
     
  9. Need answers

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    I know. Its so obvious. If he becomes President does this mean we can impeach him?
     
  10. Need answers

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    Dont governments do this all the time anyway?

    quid pro quo
    /ˌkwid ˌprō ˈkwō/

    noun
    1. a favor or advantage granted or expected in return for something.
     
  11. JIMINZ

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    Only if Schiff, and Polosi, and Schumer change Parties.
     
  12. Jamsie

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    I appreciate that the facts are often quite repulsive to trumplicans yet sometimes the truth is worth considering:

    Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine

    Biden did not act by his own authority (nor could he), in addition to the US, NATO Allies, EU, IMF, and Anti-corruption activists all called for Shokin's, a corrupt and ineffective prosecutor, removal.

    I'm sure this thread will invoke many false claims and bogus information but there is one fact. There is no evidence that biden acted on his own for some personal gain, and further Hunter became a board member several years after the focus of the investigation on Burisma.

    Probably time to sit back and simply watch all of the bogus information spewed.
     
  13. OldWiseGuy

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    At the least Biden bragged about it to boost his cred, thus advantaging himself politically, clearly an impeachable offense. :D
     
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  14. JIMINZ

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    Typical, set up the narrative before it happens, that way, whatever anybody says in rebuttal is bogus.

    Everyone has seen the film of where he was bragging about it, Obama has never mentioned that he gave orders to Joe to do such a thing, unless your taking into account that Obama placed Joe over Ukraine and therefore had the authority to do so.

    That money was allocated by the Congress and the Senate and he (Joe Biden) did not have the Authority to make threats with it any more than Trump was accused of doing, only Biden DID DO what Trump was only accused of, then he bragged about it, that was not a very smart move.

    And now you want him to be President? :doh:
     
  15. Jamsie

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    The "set up" was simply because this is all a conspiracy theory that has been debunked time and again, and not really worth the time. Vice presidents do not act on their own...they are not rogue! If you bother to research a bit you will discover that it was US policy and was in agreement with countries and organizations as noted above.

    I thought it foolish for him to "brag", and as for trump's quid pro quo that is another story. However, the fact remains that biden was acting in agency for the US government...and again a little research goes a long way.

    The Invention of the Conspiracy Theory on Biden and Ukraine

    … and no, I'm not at all a biden fan. Though questioning biden in light of our current president is laughable!
     
  16. Need answers

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    Let me get this straight. How is what Biden did any different than what Trump was accused of?
     
  17. Jamsie

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    If you do some research you can get this straight. First, corruption and Ukraine were always tightly linked. As noted biden was given the role to address this with Ukraine by administration instructions along with the support of NATO, EU, IMF, etc., and though he chose later to "brag" that was the task he was given. There was no "quid pro quo" involved.

    As for trump, though Ukraine had been given DOD clearance for achieving corruption benchmarks trump choose to withhold the congressionally approved funding. That is where the "quid pro quo" comes into the scenario... "I want you to do me a favor, though". (As you are aware the transcript was "edited")

    The Senate, lawyers such as dershowitz, took the defense that the no quid pro quo was wrong and a lie however, it did not rise to either being illegal or impeachable.

    Therein lies the difference … one was given the responsibility to address a corrupt prosecutor, and one choose to leverage an investigation into a political opponent.
     
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    Maybe Trump was investigating Biden because he's linked to another quid pro quo accusation involving Biden's son.
     
  19. Jamsie

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    Did you ever take time to research the conspiracy theory? It is well noted that the investigation of Burisma was targeted for 2010 to 2012, hunter b. became a member of the board in 2014. Here is just one of many reports:

    Ukraine's top prosecutor says he has no evidence of wrongdoing against Joe Biden or Hunter Biden as Trump allies push for them to be investigated

    Why not consider that what we do know now is that trump lied about using giuliani to "dig up dirt" on biden. Interesting that so many still put trust in trump's rhetoric when it so often turns out to be lies ….
     
  20. Need answers

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    Trump did the same thing Biden did though. He was investigating something. What that investigation concluded in the end is irrelevant..
     
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