Dont answer this post as this is not the right place

[Godistruth1]

Why don't you take a poll about who thinks Jesus may or may not be the incarnation of the Angel of the Lord?

 

[JacksBratt]

Jesus was not "incarnated" He is one of the Trinity and has always existed as part of God.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

It's wonderful that you've put up a poll for this topic, but I'm not sure this is the place to put it since it is open to MORE THAN just Christians, and anyone can answer and thus dilute the results. You also don't know if the people answering are Christian.

So, you need to change the questions to 1) I'm a Christian and Yes , 2) I'm a Christian and No, and 3) I'm a Christian and I'm not sure/maybe.

 

[GospelS]

What we now call "the image/the Word of God" was called "the Angel of the Lord" in the Old Testament days, because this time He came as a human child through both spiritual and biological process.

 

[Randy777]

Yes, what we now call "the image of the invisible God" was called "the Angel of the Lord" in those days, because this time He came as a human child through both spiritual and biological process.

Jesus was not viewed as a angel by the Apostles.
In speaking of the angels he says,
“He makes his angels spirits,
and his servants flames of fire.”

But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

And it was Paul the Apostle who stated Jesus was the image of the invisible God.
Which is cohesive with Hebrews

The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.

 

[Phronema]

I'd say that it's written in our Nicene Creed. To call Him (Our Lord Christ) merely an Angel of the Lord largely diminishes what He did. He wasn't merely a messenger of God, or a prophet. I'm well aware that Muslims think that he was merely a prophet, but that's not what Christians believe.

Bolded, and underlined portions are mine for emphasis :

I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end.

And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets.

In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.

I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.

I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come.

Amen.

 

[GospelS]

Jesus was not viewed as a angel by the Apostles.
In speaking of the angels he says,
“He makes his angels spirits,
and his servants flames of fire.”

But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

And it was Paul the Apostle who stated Jesus was the image of the invisible God.
Which is cohesive with Hebrews

The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.

I added 'in the Old Testament days'. I hope that is more clear.

 

[Dave-W]

Jesus was not "incarnated" He is one of the Trinity and has always existed as part of God.

That means you do not know what "incarnated" means.

 

[dlamberth]

Jesus was not "incarnated" He is one of the Trinity and has always existed as part of God.

I'm confused. Jesus was born about 2,000 years ago. Maybe there's something else going on here.

 

[Godistruth1]

It's wonderful that you've put up a poll for this topic, but I'm not sure this is the place to put it since it is open to MORE THAN just Christians, and anyone can answer and thus dilute the results. You also don't know if the people answering are Christian.

So, you need to change the questions to 1) I'm a Christian and Yes , 2) I'm a Christian and No, and 3) I'm a Christian and I'm not sure/maybe.

You are right. Can u put up a post in the Christian section of the forum as I don't have the permission

 

[2PhiloVoid]

You are right. Can u put up a post in the Christian section of the forum as I don't have the permission

Ok. I'll see what I can do.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Ok. I'll see what I can do.

Alright, Godistruth1. I've created and posted my version of this poll. I've set it so it can receive responses for 180 day and I think it'll be interesting to see the results. Here's the link in case you haven't already seen it:

Is the O.T. Angel of the Lord the Pre-incarnate Jesus?

Peace!

 

[JacksBratt]

That means you do not know what "incarnated" means.

If you are talking about Jesus, son of Mary.. then He still wasn't "incarnated" from an angel.

 

[Randy777]

I added 'in the Old Testament days'. I hope that is more clear.

The answer would still be no to the survey question. I just wanted that to be clear.

 

[cloudyday2]

@Godistruth1 , are you only interested in Christian responses?

 

[GospelS]

The answer would still be no to the survey question. I just wanted that to be clear.

I agree. It is no. The question was not worded properly. I think the OP understands what I meant to say. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Dave-W]

If you are talking about Jesus, son of Mary.. then He still wasn't "incarnated" from an angel.

Incarnation means to be made flesh; from the Latin carne meaning flesh or meat.

The Word made flesh. Incarnation.

 

[Godistruth1]

@Godistruth1 , are you only interested in Christian responses?

Yes

 

[JacksBratt]

Incarnation means to be made flesh; from the Latin carne meaning flesh or meat.

The Word made flesh. Incarnation.

Thanks for that definition. Still, not made flesh from any "angel".

 

[2PhiloVoid]

If you are talking about Jesus, son of Mary.. then He still wasn't "incarnated" from an angel.

I think you're misunderstanding the whole intent and point of this discussion, JacksBratt. But, that's alright, I guess.