Is it wrong to kill innocent people?

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Of course, it is wrong. But we don't live in a perfect world. Sometimes wars are fought. Innocent persons may be killed. But it's still wrong, in a moral sense. Even if the reason for going to to war might be just, i.e, self-defense against an agressor, if innocents are killed, some attempt at restitution or compensation should be made, if at all possible.
 
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Ninja Turtles said:
Is it wrong to kill innocent people?

Too generalized.

Is it wrong for a substantially lesser quantity of people to place their lives above the eminent detriment of the substantially greater quantity of people?
 
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sanaa said:
what kind of system?
I'll leave it up to you decide. Let's say you have a system in war, where it involves control of regions where you must kill some innocents to maintain dominance and control of the region from the enemy.

It can be any system you want from implementing a system to a government system.
 
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I suppose you are talking about human systems; to the rest of fauna and flora those do not apply:

1 - yes, it is wrong to kill inocents. And, like Allister said, it's wrong to kill anyone.

2 - If a system has to kill inocents in order to survive, the vality of such system is very, very, very questionable.
 
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Ninja Turtles said:
Here's a followup question: is it wrong to kill innocent people to maintain a system?
I guess innocent should be defined.

Are they innocent from the point of view of those trying to maintain the system?
In this sense yes, it's morally wrong.

Are they innocent from a third parties perspective? Well then it's questionable.. as the acting party might view the "innocents" as passively complicit... and not innocent at all.
 
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Ninja Turtles said:
What about the killing of innocents when it is unintended, as in a war (example)?

I'l keep asking short little questions. :thumbsup:
Then you bring into question negligence.
This could be as specific as attacking or not attacking a target.... or as broad as whether we should've gone to war in the first place because the overall risk of innocent life was to great...

So while the individual act of losing an innocent life is immoral, it doesn't necessarily render the action that caused it as such unless there is a question of negligance.
 
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levi501 said:
I guess innocent should be defined.

Are they innocent from the point of view of those trying to maintain the system?
In this sense yes, it's morally wrong.

Are they innocent from a third parties perspective? Well then it's questionable.. as the acting party might view the "innocents" as passively complicit... and not innocent at all.
I mean as in innocent like death penalty innocent where one would continue to maintain the system despite thet fact that they know of several innocent people killed through the system (some after the fact, others before).
 
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Ninja Turtles said:
I mean as in innocent like death penalty innocent where one would continue to maintain the system despite thet fact that they know of several innocent people killed through the system (some after the fact, others before).
no, it's immoral when there are more efficient alternatives where innocent life isn't at risk.
 
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dkara said:
Yes, it is wrong.

**Period. End of statement. No rationalization, no butts**

It's 1917. You are a British/French/American Sniper. You have Lance Corporal Adolf Hitler in your sites. You know that if you don't shoot him, he will survive the war, go on to start World War II, which will kill millions of people, and enact the holocaust. You further know that if you do shoot him, there will be no World War II, no Nazi Germany, and millions fewer people will die in the 20th century. You have a clear shot.

Do you take it?
 
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