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Is it the same God?

Discussion in 'Deeper Fellowship' started by jayebrownlee, Feb 26, 2003.

  1. jayebrownlee

    jayebrownlee Senior Veteran

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    Bare with me here as I don't exactly know how to word this...

    if Christians are people descended from Jews then do we worship the same God?

    Now I know that all religions have there "god", you could call him Allah or you may call him Lord as I do, however I believe that Allah is a false God. I don't know though if Jews and Christians have the same God.

    Does my God consider Jews His children in the same way that He considers Christians His children, or does He think of them the same way as Muslims or Hundus.

    Confused yet.....I am!!

    Your sister in Christ

    Jay
     
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  2. FaithtoFaith

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    This reminds me of the scripture in Romans. We were grafted into the olive tree to bring jealousy to the Jews, so we are a part of the same vine according to this.
     
  3. GodOwnsMe

    GodOwnsMe Well-Known Member

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    mhhhhhhhh well I think you're God's kid when you believe in Jesus but I think they still believe in the same God...... it's a lil weird cause they don't believe in His son, who's um just like Him/ one with Him. mhhhh, well before Jesus came yeah !!
     
  4. reeann

    reeann Trust and Obey

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    I believe the Bible teaches that jewish people are are lost until they accept Jesus as their personal savior. However, I believe revelations indicates that during the end times a lot of those of the jewish faith will be converted. Not sure though, i'd have to look it up again
     
  5. Sharky

    Sharky Rockin dude!

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    I'll have to gain a little wisdom on the jews part. I'm not sure how they work but as far as i know their faith is not much different from ours. Maybe God has annointed them for a specific reason but again i'm not sure. As far as it goes, everyone needs Jesus.
     
  6. Job_38

    Job_38 <font size="1"> In perfect orbit they have circled

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    Yes, its the same God.
     
  7. speechless

    speechless Regular Member

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    I was pondering this question earlier today! I think it's the same God, but they don't accept Jesus... which is like accepting God. I have heard the they are "unsaved Christians" but I wouldn't go as far to say they are Christian if they reject Christ.
     
  8. GraftMeIn

    GraftMeIn The Masters Gardener

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    Galatians 3:26-29
    For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise

    John 14:6
    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    As far as allah goes...

    John 16:1-3
    These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
     
  9. reeann

    reeann Trust and Obey

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    thank you Graft! :)
     
  10. LifeInYou

    LifeInYou a little lamb...*baaaa

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    I also believe it is the same God. I have a Muslim roommate and he told me that the people in the Islamic faith are preferred to marry another Muslim but they can also marry Jews and Christians because in their minds we worship the same God. What makes Christians distinct from them is that we believe in the Trinity. We are so lucky because I think they view God as transcendent more than anything (just a being that watches over everything from a distance) but he lives within us, and he is among us! Yahoo! : >
     
  11. DeputyDan

    DeputyDan Member

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    I do not believe that Jehovah and Allah are the same God.

    I believe that Jehovah is the name of the Father and Jesus is the name of his Son and our Messiah. The Jewish people (in general) do not believe in Jesus as the messiah or as divine whereas Christians do.

    I believe Allah to be a false god who leads many astray.

    Remember the first several commandments were not about not believing in God but about the fact that there is only one God.
     
  12. jayebrownlee

    jayebrownlee Senior Veteran

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    I know that Allah is not the same God, that si not what I meant. I was only wondering if Christians and Jews both believed in the one true god or whether they worshipped a "false" God. It is just that I know that once our God was the God of the Jews, that is our heritage after all, so when Jesus died for us did those who did not believe start worshipping a false God or do they simply believe different things about the same God.

    Jay
     
  13. BlueDragon

    BlueDragon Tired

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    Knowing quite a few muslims, and having numerous discussions with them about this (i know i'm going on the side topic) it would seem that Allah is the same as our God...their book, the Koran (i don't know how to spell it) takes off after the Old Testiment...they pretty much say that they worship the God of the Jews (that's our God too) but they ignored everything that happened during the New Testiment and followed another Prophet named Mohammed accepting him as the true prophet to tell more about God. So basically Christians, Muslims, and Jews, all worship the same God, but it is only Christians who believe in and accept that Jesus was born and died on the cross for us. (The Muslims believe that Jesus was born, that he was a prophet for God, but they don't believe he died for our sins, or that he was the true Messiah)
     
  14. Job_38

    Job_38 <font size="1"> In perfect orbit they have circled

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    They say they do, they proclaim it. But so do the Mormons. But when the God they claim to be the same commands things that are contrary to His Word, then the conclusion must be false.


    And good day, I need to study my Bible. I have been slacking. SLACKER!
     
  15. Athlon4all

    Athlon4all I'm offline indefintely

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    Honestly, Orthodox Judiasm during the OT would've been the same as the Christian God. Today, we must keep in mind that (I believe this is a verse) he who has seen Jesus has seen the Father and he who has not seen Jesus has not seen the Father. This is why Jews today and Muslims cannot be truly seeing and worshiping God the Father, because they do not see Jesus Christ.

    And also, in the Koran, Allah tells Muslims to go kill the pagans if they don't believe. To me that is all that is needed for me to discredit Allah as being Jehovah along with what I said above.
     
  16. DavidPartay

    DavidPartay Member

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    Jews, Muslims and Christians believe in the same GOD. Allah translates to "The God". However, as has been said, because Jews and Muslims do not accept Jesus as God's son and follow him, they cannot enter Heaven.

    Also, unfortunately, the Islamic faith has also been twisted and distorted over time to suit those in power. Muhammad was the descendant of Ishmael, Abraham's first son.
     
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