Is it not time that the US elected someone other than an acting President?

[Goonie]

Trump says acting cabinet members give him 'more flexibility'

It is becoming embarrassing seeing the gross incompetence of the current US head of State.

 

[HTacianas]

Trump says acting cabinet members give him 'more flexibility'

It is becoming embarrassing seeing the gross incompetence of the current US head of State.

There's nothing incompetent about Trump. He has already done things we have needed done for decades. Now is Trump's next appointment going to be forced through another abomination of a confirmation like the one Brett Kavanaugh was forced to suffer through?

 

[Goonie]

There's nothing incompetent about Trump. He has already done things we have needed done for decades. Now is Trump's next appointment going to be forced through another abomination of a confirmation like the one Brett Kavanaugh was forced to suffer through?

Nothing incompetent about Trump? Except everything! He is running the US into the ground. Mr Smith watch out for the iceberg!

 

[Goonie]

Actually I am being completely unfair at least the last 'acting' president was able to act Presidential.

 

[StrivingFollower]

We should have the smartest person on Christian Forums be president. Let's have a vote guys. It's time to really make America Great Again.

 

[USincognito]

There's nothing incompetent about Trump.

These sorts of statements are almost Kim Jong Unesque.

He has already done things we have needed done for decades.

Like what? Cut taxes even more for the rich? Burned bridges and antagonized our closest allies while toadying up to dictators? Broken treaties and agreements that has been working for years, if not decades? Lied incessantly?

Now is Trump's next appointment going to be forced through another abomination of a confirmation like the one Brett Kavanaugh was forced to suffer through?

The Kavenaugh confirmation was a cake walk compared to what others have been through.

 

[AFC]

There's nothing incompetent about Trump. He has already done things we have needed done for decades. Now is Trump's next appointment going to be forced through another abomination of a confirmation like the one Brett Kavanaugh was forced to suffer through?

I agree that President Trump is doing a very good job. He is not perfect, but no President we have ever had in the past was either. If President Trump was given the cooperation of Congress to implement his full agenda, things would improve drastically.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Nothing incompetent about Trump? Except everything! He is running the US into the ground. Mr Smith watch out for the iceberg!

Trump's a real smocking gun alright and his presidency is unpresidented. He's like a 'really smart person' and a 'very stable genius,' with one of the greatest memories of all time. He said so himself.

Just look at what he said about a government shutdown. I guess this means he's weak.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

I agree that President Trump is doing a very good job. He is not perfect, but no President we have ever had in the past was either. If President Trump was given the cooperation of Congress to implement his full agenda, things would improve drastically.

He had his own party in control of both the House and Senate for the past two years. Obama got the ACA through with that situation. Trump could have gotten a lot done but squandered his time and now he has a divided Congress.

 

[AFC]

He had his own party in control of both the House and Senate for the past two years. Obama got the ACA through with that situation. Trump could have gotten a lot done but squandered his time and now he has a divided Congress.

There is a difference in having your party in control and having all of their cooperation. In order for Obama to get the ACA through, the Democrats had to steal a Senate seat in Minnesota to reach 60 Senators to get past a filibuster. After Obama got that massive bill through as a result of reconciliation, he basically governed by executive orders.

 

[HTacianas]

These sorts of statements are almost Kim Jong Unesque.



Like what? Cut taxes even more for the rich? Burned bridges and antagonized our closest allies while toadying up to dictators? Broken treaties and agreements that has been working for years, if not decades? Lied incessantly?



The Kavenaugh confirmation was a cake walk compared to what others have been through.

To say Trump has damaged relations with our allies is to swallow the bait of his detractors. All of the countries Trump has changed any agreements with have already agreed to his terms and we continue the same relationships with them only now on terms more equal for the US.

And Trump should righty receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his work with North Korea. If he doesn't it will relegate the award to meaninglessness.

 

[USincognito]

To say Trump has damaged relations with our allies is to swallow the bait of his detractors.

Again that is nothing more than spin and hagiography. It is fact that our relationship with our closest allies has been damaged by Trump. It likely will recover though because I get the impression that the leaders of those countries realize that they're dealing with an irrational actor and it will all be better come 2020.

And Trump should righty receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his work with North Korea. If he doesn't it will relegate the award to meaninglessness.

One of the more laughable attempts at hagiography that is being circulated. While the meeting in Singapore was certainly unprecedented, it didn't really accomplish much beyond giving Jong Un the appearance of strength and legitimacy. The explosion and death of 200 scientists at Punggye-ri test site played a much larger role in stiffling the North Korean nuclear program than anything that happened in 2018.

 

[super animator]

Trump says acting cabinet members give him 'more flexibility'

It is becoming embarrassing seeing the gross incompetence of the current US head of State.

Elections are due 2020.

 

[Goonie]

Elections are due 2020.

If you hadn’t heard there’s a national emergency! So we’ll see.

 

[HTacianas]

Again that is nothing more than spin and hagiography. It is fact that our relationship with our closest allies has been damaged by Trump. It likely will recover though because I get the impression that the leaders of those countries realize that they're dealing with an irrational actor and it will all be better come 2020.



One of the more laughable attempts at hagiography that is being circulated. While the meeting in Singapore was certainly unprecedented, it didn't really accomplish much beyond giving Jong Un the appearance of strength and legitimacy. The explosion and death of 200 scientists at Punggye-ri test site played a much larger role in stiffling the North Korean nuclear program than anything that happened in 2018.

To make the bald statement that our relationships with our allies have been damaged is meaningless without specific examples of how -exactly- those relationships have been damaged. And some people existing some place in the world with some of their feelings hurt because Trump has held them to the terms they voluntarily agreed to long ago does not equate to damaged relationships.

As to North Korea, name a single world leader in history who has ever even attempted to make the same amount of progress Trump has made with them.

 

[super animator]

If you hadn’t heard there’s a national emergency! So we’ll see.

We are technically under national emergency sense GWB.

 

[AllButNone]

To make the bald statement that our relationships with our allies have been damaged is meaningless without specific examples of how -exactly- those relationships have been damaged.

Speaking as a Canadian, I feel like Trump has shown that maybe in the past we've put too much faith in the US. Even if Trump isn't president after 2020, the sentiment that brought him the presidency will likely remain, and that makes reliance on America and the American order uncertain. Specific examples are the withdrawal from the TPP, the threats against NAFTA (could have easily been renegotiated without the bluster and threats to my country's economic security), America's failure to back Canada up in our dispute with Saudi Arabia, or even just Trump discussing using Meng Wanzhou as a political chip (this last one especially angers me to a degree I can't express on these forums, but to get some insight). There's a whole lot more beyond this.

It's... honestly, it's just incredibly disappointing. America won the cold war, only to toss away everything it fought for.

I hope I'm wrong and that the American-led order renews itself in some way. The alternative to a US-led order isn't appealing, so there's an incentive for other nations, including my own, to give it a chance to mend its ways. But for the moment, America should be treated with suspicion. Sorry. You might not like that. Elect better leaders.

 

[super animator]

America won the cold war, only to toss away everything it fought for.

Which they only won by literally outspend the Soviet Union in therms of militarily budget. Don't think for a minute the US is all shine and rainbows during the cold war, they literally overthrow democratic governments and set up dictatorships that are friendly to the US.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

There's nothing incompetent about Trump. He has already done things we have needed done for decades. Now is Trump's next appointment going to be forced through another abomination of a confirmation like the one Brett Kavanaugh was forced to suffer through?

What things have Trump done that we have been waiting decades for, exactly?

I agree that President Trump is doing a very good job. He is not perfect, but no President we have ever had in the past was either. If President Trump was given the cooperation of Congress to implement his full agenda, things would improve drastically.

Like Obama was given Mitch “our job is to make Obama a one term president” Mcconnell?

And, as others have mentioned, both houses of Congress were Republican until last week. Maybe he can’t get cooperation because his ideas are bad.

There is a difference in having your party in control and having all of their cooperation. In order for Obama to get the ACA through, the Democrats had to steal a Senate seat in Minnesota to reach 60 Senators to get past a filibuster. After Obama got that massive bill through as a result of reconciliation, he basically governed by executive orders.

How did they “steal” the Minnesota seat?

As for executive orders, Obama averaged 34.6 per year. Trump is averaging 47.4 per year.

List of United States federal executive orders - Wikipedia

To say Trump has damaged relations with our allies is to swallow the bait of his detractors. All of the countries Trump has changed any agreements with have already agreed to his terms and we continue the same relationships with them only now on terms more equal for the US.

And Trump should righty receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his work with North Korea. If he doesn't it will relegate the award to meaninglessness.

Data on US standing in the world is easy to find and doesn’t look good for Trump (and by extension for the US):
Trump Approval Worldwide Remains Low Especially Among Key Allies

The only real agreement changed was NAFTA to USMCA and it is basically the same.

The US, Canada, and Mexico's newly signed trade pact looks a lot like NAFTA. Here are the key differences between them.

Otherwise, he has just backed out of international agreements (TPP, Paris accords, Iran) without negotiating replacements.

Are we at peace with North Korea?

 

[AllButNone]

Which they only won by literally outspend the Soviet Union in therms of militarily budget. Don't think for a minute the US is all shine and rainbows during the cold war, they literally overthrow democratic governments and set up dictatorships that are friendly to the US.

Definitely not trying to say that the US was all shine and rainbows during the cold war. There were problems. Sometimes big problems. But a big difference is that usually these were in the interest of strengthening the US-led order, not abandoning it.

Although, I admit, I was responding specifically to how Trump has damaged America's relationship with its allies. I'm at a loss to think of any period since WWII where there's been such a sustained assault on Canadian interests by America. (Late edit, Nixon was pretty bad though)