Is it essential to quote the Bible in order to give good Christian advice?

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Well yeah, let's not start ignoring the fact that if you go to certain atheist websites, they will list many "apparent" contradictions in the Bible.
Actually, I agree with the idea of "APPARENT" contradictions (because there are a number of verses that do 'seem' contradictory at first blush), but I disagree that there are "actual" ones :preach:
 
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Actually, I agree with the idea of "APPARENT" contradictions (because there are a number of verses that do 'seem' contradictory at first blush), but I disagree that there are "actual" ones :preach:

Interesting viewpoint. I respect that.
 
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What I've noticed from those seeking advice is first they are also looking for a sympathetic ear and second adverse situations cause them to be more open to God and His Word.
 
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In this thread we have those who value the scriptures above all other writings, and those who do not. Why debate it though? If you dont like scripture just dont read it. Simple
we're not debating the value of scripture. We're debating whether every bit of advice we give someone looking for it on here, has to include a quote from scripture.
 
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Jesus lives in our hearts, not in a book. Plain and simple. If He is not guiding us, satan automatically is; whether you are reading/quoting from a bible or not. I say, without hesitation, that the bible is probably the WORST thing that has happened to Christianity. I am not saying there isn't truth in it, but it has been used by Christians as their "god" rather than just as a tool. It is not now, nor has it EVER been the "ultimate authority". That title belongs to JESUS and JESUS ALONE! Giving that title to anything else is pure blasphemy. Plain and simple!
wow, what a refreshing viewpoint. I like originality, even I don't agree with you 100%.
 
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I am catholic by the way. I rarely quote scripture. That is partly because I don't have the knowledge of many good CF members who are raised on the Bible as the number one authority.
But I see my role in helping a fellow human being as first, being there for them. As an equal. Not as their scripture quoting superior. As if the OP's lack of knowledge of scripture is contributing to the problem.
See them first as fellow travellers. Don't condescend to them as if you are closer to Heaven , as if you have some special access to God's real intentions. Remember the importance of humility? Giving advice still requires humility. Didn't Jesus emphasise the value of humility?

That's a really good question. This is similar to many of the questions that are being raised in the Christian counseling class I am taking in seminary right now.

I guess it all depends on who you are talking to. The title of the thread asked specifically about giving "Christian advice," so I am assuming you are going to be giving advice 1) as a Christian 2) to a Christian 3) who wants particularly Christian advice. So, to answer your question, I would say no, it is not necessary to quote Scripture. However, I do think it is many times good to reference Scripture, but I do not think it is absolutely necessary without exception. I have been given some wonderful and helpful advice by Christian brothers and sisters on many occasions which contained no Scripture passages or aphorisms. I think the Holy Spirit gives his people wisdom for such occasions.
 
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"The heart is deceitful."

I've learned that by experience, but if I'd paid attention when I first read it, I'd have suffered less. I think the real problem with the heart is that it's so easily deceived, then once deceived, it proceeds to deceive.
I mean more than emotions. Of course our emotions are dangerous.
But the mind and thoughts get us into trouble too.
Assuming there is love in our hearts, God wants them.
 
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You found out from the Sacred Scriptures. Now you can share that understanding with others and be able to tell them the fount in which you drank from as they too can take in this living water (John 4).

That's this Sunday's reading.

Third Sunday of Lent
 
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However, I do think it is many times good to reference Scripture, but I do not think it is absolutely necessary without exception. I have been given some wonderful and helpful advice by Christian brothers and sisters on many occasions which contained no Scripture passages or aphorisms. I think the Holy Spirit gives his people wisdom for such occasions.
I think the fruits of us reading the Bible and understanding the important messages will show in the way we respond as a human being who seeks our advice.
Ask yourself, what is the tone of my post? Am I being too proud of my knowledge? Am I really trying to help?
We have to dig deep, to make sure we aren't just giving superficial lip service instead of really valuable advice from a Christian perspective as a fellow traveller. A fellow sinner.
 
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I think the fruits of us reading the Bible and understanding the important messages will show in the way we respond as a human being who seeks our advice.

Absolutely. You hit the nail right on the head.
 
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Everyone therefore who hears these words of mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man, who built his house on a rock. The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it didn't fall, for it was founded on the rock. Everyone who hears these words of mine, and doesn't do them will be like a foolish man, who built his house on the sand. The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it fell—and great was its fall. Matthew 7:24-27

I agree. Being Christian isn't about knowing the Word, but about living by the Word.
That sounds pretty wise to me.
 
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Lol i thought this was christian advice forum, not debate. If you read the rules for this particular forum its for those seeking christian advice and NOT DEBATE.

So ask the mods to move it elsewhere since you OP are clearly not even seeking christian advice. You just wanna argue.
 
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If I have any wisdom, that comes from the Lord, and not from myself.
I take the credit for my. wisdom. Why don't you? :)
(lightning strike!!) God, sorry, I promise to give you the credit next time. OK?
 
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Lol i thought this was christian advice forum, not debate. If you read the rules for this particular forum its for those seeking christian advice and NOT DEBATE.

So ask the mods to move it elsewhere since you OP are clearly not even seeking christian advice. You just wanna argue.

Maybe he wants advice on how to give advice? I think that's the point to this whole conversation.
 
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Lol i thought this was christian advice forum, not debate. If you read the rules for this particular forum its for those seeking christian advice and NOT DEBATE.

So ask the mods to move it elsewhere since you OP are clearly not even seeking christian advice. You just wanna argue.
I can give you advice if you want GB? :)
But I wont be quoting scripture.
Likewise you can give me some.
 
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