Is it Christian to be pro-abortion?

[RileyG]

How about providing free prenatal care and childcare for pregnant women considering abortion?

Pregnant women need better and affordable resources and care. I agree 100% as a pro life person.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Pregnant women need better and affordable resources and care. I agree 100% as a pro life person.

And diapers are not cheap.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

How about providing free prenatal care and childcare for pregnant women considering abortion?

Should society incentivize immoral and reckless sexual behavior? Why does society have to provide abortion or services which would encourage women to have children outside of what is normative?

 

[ThisIsMe123]

By that you mean expanding access to abortion and allowing for it's legality. As a Catholic, whose Church prohibits and speaks against the morality of birth control, why do you support it?

I grew up Catholic, and I never understood some of the exclusive Catholic rules like birth control within marriage. I mean, the best way to stop abortion is to never conceive a child to begin with by using condoms or whatever.

"Abortion is bad"
"So I'll use birth control"
"Sorry, you're Catholic, birth control is bad!"

And no, I'm not using the "rhythm method"

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Should society incentivize immoral and reckless sexual behavior? Why does society have to provide abortion or services which would encourage women to have children outside of what is normative?

You see safety net as "incentivizing"?

Like feeding the hungry, clothing the naked and sheltering the homeless incentivizes them also.

Better to make it illegal, monitor what happens in clinics, incentive snitching, prosecute and incarcerate.
Like on another thread here, build more walls and prisons, might as well add more police also and give them more power, all part of "Making America Great".

 

[trophy33]

If you're genuinely confused about why Christians oppose abortion, you may want to start with rereading the Gospel accounts.

Somehow I doubt the Jesus of "suffer the little children to come to me" and "he who causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone tied to his neck and to be drowned in the sea" and "see that you do not despise one of these little ones" looks kindly on those who would tear the little ones to pieces in the womb.

Even you were unable to come with some direct teaching about abortions from the Bible. You just used the verse about small children (who were already able to walk), instead.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

You see safety net as "incentivizing"?

Like feeding the hungry, clothing the naked and sheltering the homeless incentivizes them also.

Better to make it illegal, monitor what happens in clinics, incentive snitching, prosecute and incarcerate.
Like on another thread here, build more walls and prisons, might as well add more police also and give them more power, all part of "Making America Great".

Yes. If you're going to reward behavior with support, you only incentivize it. Why is it the state's job to support women who live a kind of lifestyle that doesn't benefit them or their children? Why then is it the government's responsibility to provide a means of termination of said consequences? I see no Christian justification for it.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Yes. If you're going to reward behavior with support, you only incentivize it. Why is it the state's job to support women who live a kind of lifestyle that doesn't benefit them or their children? Why then is it the government's responsibility to provide a means of termination of said consequences? I see no Christian justification for it.

Also no Christian justification for feeding the hungry, clothing the naked and sheltering the homeless? Just curious how you reason.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Also no Christian justification for feeding the hungry, clothing the naked and sheltering the homeless? Just curious how you reason.

It's not about being against feeding the hungry or the homeless, who may be there for multiple reasons. The question is one of whether or not it's the government's responsibility to provide for women means of escaping the consequences of their reckless sexual behavior. I am curious, why should the state fund single motherhood, which is perhaps one of the most prominent factors in predicting outcomes for people in the future in terms of how they do.

You are suggesting it is the duty of the state to provide for single mothers, explain this to me.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

It's not about being against feeding the hungry or the homeless, who may be there for multiple reasons. The question is one of whether or not it's the government's responsibility to provide for women means of escaping the consequences of their reckless sexual behavior. I am curious, why should the state fund single motherhood, which is perhaps one of the most prominent factors in predicting outcomes for people in the future in terms of how they do.

You are suggesting it is the duty of the state to provide for single mothers, explain this to me.

You would rather force them to have babies they cannot afford and raise them in poverty.

The goal here is to prevent or reduce abortions. Is it not?
Why do women have abortions?

"The decision to have an abortion is typically motivated by multiple, diverse and interrelated reasons. The themes of responsibility to others and resource limitations, such as financial constraints and lack of partner support, recurred throughout the study.

Reasons U.S. Women Have Abortions: Quantitative and Qualitative Perspectives

Public discussion about abortion in the United States has generally focused on policy: who should be allowed to have abortions, and under what circumstances. Receiving less attention are the women behind the statistics—the 1.3 million women who obtain abortions each year1—and their reasons for...

www.guttmacher.org

Outlawing abortion does not address any of these issues. Sure promote chastity. Good luck on that.
How about creating a culture where mothers have resources and support so they do not feel compelled to abort.

 

[jas3]

Even you were unable to come with some direct teaching about abortions from the Bible. You just used the verse about small children (who were already able to walk), instead.

I'm not on a Christian forum in a Christians-only area to play games about "where does the Bible word-for-word say infanticide is bad." Take your abortion apologetics somewhere else.

 

[dogs4thewin]

There is no such thing as pro-abortion pro chooice yes, but if people are pro-abortion that would mean they would want the human race to die out.

 

[Michie]

Seriously. Why do people separate feeding the hungry, etc. with being pro-life. It’s a false scenario. It is not an either/or situation.

 

[dogs4thewin]

How about providing free prenatal care and childcare for pregnant women considering abortion?

Nothing is free. If you choose to emgage the behavior that gets you pregnant ( which is VAST majority of people thaat are pregant did then you need to take care of your own child. Now, government help is OK if it is A limited in scope and B you are working to get off of it, but you knew what you were doing you knew the risk you need totake care of the resulting child. I also do not support ADDITIONAL government assistance for people who have more than ONE additional child while on it. Of course twins are different, but if you are already on government assistance do what you have to do to keep from having more children. Yes, that includes keeping your legs completely closed if need be until you are too old to worry about it.

 

[Lukaris]

Seriously. Why do people separate feeding the hungry, etc. with being pro-life. It’s a false scenario. It is not an either/or situation.

While I am not Catholic, when I hear such statements, would these same people say the late pro life Pope John Paul II didn’t believe in helping the needy? Or Mother Theresa for that matter?

 

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