Is it a sin to befriend a gay person?

[MasterYourLife]

A wise man once said, "Don't take it from me, take it from God."...so:

John 15:13
"13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends."

"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?"

 

[Tone]

"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?"

You believe this forbids you to lay down your life for a sinner?

 

[MasterYourLife]

"4You adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore, whoever chooses to be a friend of the world renders himself an enemy of God."


"2889 kósmos (literally, "something ordered") – properly, an "ordered system" (like the universe, creation); the world."
Strong's Greek: 2889. κόσμος (kosmos) -- order, the world


*I don't think an individual qualifies as the world.

What then, is God talking about the physical earth? Rocks, tree's, grass, water?

5. the inhabitants of the world: θέατρον ἐγενήθημεν τῷκόσμῳ καί ἀγγέλοις καί ἀνθρώποις, 1 Corinthians 4:9(Winers Grammar, 127 (121)); particularly the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human race

Read the verse in context with the proper definition. Not a vague sentence you cherry picked.

Here are other in-context references of the word, "world".
John 3:17 N-NMS
GRK: σωθῇ ὁ κόσμος δι' αὐτοῦ
NAS: the world, but that the world might be saved

John 1:29 N-GMS
GRK: ἁμαρτίαν τοῦ κόσμου
NAS: who takes away the sin of the world!

 

[Tone]

Read the verse in context with the proper definition. Not a vague sentence you cherry picked.

That was the verse you presented...and that is the actual word used in that verse...

 

[MasterYourLife]

You believe this forbids you to lay down your life for a sinner?

I do what the Bible says. It says not to be friends with unbelievers.
It says to lay your life down for a friend. Unbelievers aren't my friends, therefore I don't have to lay my life down for an unbeliever.
Wouldn't it make more sense to say, "lay your life down for everyone". Why did the author specifically choose the word, "friend?". Clearly there are boundaries to who you lay your life down for.

 

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I do what the Bible says. It says not to be friends with unbelievers.
It says to lay your life down for a friend. Unbelievers aren't my friends, therefore I don't have to lay my life down for an unbeliever.

So, for you, it is a sin to befriend a gay person?

 

[MasterYourLife]

So, for you, it is a sin to befriend a gay person?

A sin or not, God knows. But I do what God says, which is to not be friends with unbelievers.

 

[bèlla]

I’ve known many gay, bisexual and bicurious people over the years. I would not have survived my spiritual attack without the care and assistance of friends. Every one of them came from one of these categories. They were the lone ones who stood with me daily. Suffering alongside.

This isn’t a question of consideration for me. Lest I forget their grace. I don’t feel threatened by friendship with anyone from those groups. I’m no more at risk than I am in the company of believers with a litany of sins that I encounter.

Love and grace are my banner. That resolves most questions like this and then some.

 

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A sin or not, God knows. But I do what God says, which is to not be friends with unbelievers.

What about the story of the Good Samaritan...or the command to love your neighbor...you think these are something different than being a friend to an unbeliever...or, to stay on topic, someone who is afflicted with homosexuality?

 

[MasterYourLife]

What about the story of the Good Samaritan...or the command to love your neighbor...you think these are something different than being a friend to an unbeliever...or, to stay on topic, someone who is afflicted with homosexuality?

Yes, there's a difference between loving someone and being friends with them.
I can help an unbeliever in need, but that doesn't make us friends.

 

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Yes, there's a difference between loving someone and being friends with them.
I can help an unbeliever in need, but that doesn't make us friends.

What if helping them entails laying down your life for them?

 

[MasterYourLife]

What if helping them entails laying down your life for them?

Me dying isn't helping anyone.

 

[Tone]

Me dying isn't helping anyone.

I didn't say "die"...

 

[MasterYourLife]

I didn't say "die"...

Then what exactly does it mean to "lay your life down" for someone

 

[Toro]

Not being friends with the world, doesn't equal hating them.

Again, that was not the intent of that scripture that you chose.

You can twist scripture to match pretty much any view point.... even to justify treating others in judgement rather than mercy, while Jesus Himself, the one that was right to cast the first stone, preffered to show mercy over condemnation and judgement.

IF He that was fit to throw the first stone, chose mercy, how much more should we, unfit to throw stones be merciful?

However as implied by my first post, "Friend of the world" is to find oneself in agreement with the world....not in agreement with God.

It is to choose the world above God. Not that you find not value or goodness in this world.

God Himself looked at the world and said it was "Good". Sin caused it to be tainted, but it is STILL His creation, just as MAN is still His creation though tainted by sin.

If you still wish to condemn rather than love and be merciful to those that, as yourself are not perfect, that is between you and God. You will be measured by the standard in which you measure others.

 

[MasterYourLife]

Again, that was not the intent of that scripture that you chose.

You can twist scripture to match pretty much any view point.... even to justify treating others in judgement rather than mercy, while Jesus Himself, the one that was right to cast the first stone, preffered to show mercy over condemnation and judgement.

IF He that was fit to throw the first stone, chose mercy, how much more should we, unfit to throw stones be merciful?

However as implied by my first post, "Friend of the world" is to find oneself in agreement with the world....not in agreement with God.

It is to choose the world above God. Not that you find not value or goodness in this world.

God Himself looked at the world and said it was "Good". Sin caused it to be tainted, but it is STILL His creation, just as MAN is still His creation though tainted by sin.

If you still wish to condemn rather than love and be merciful to those that, as yourself are not perfect, that is between you and God. You will be measured by the standard in which you measure others.

Read the verse in context. World is referring to the inhabitants.

 

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Then what exactly does it mean to "lay your life down" for someone

This should be your most earnest prayer to Abba.

 

[MasterYourLife]

This should be your most earnest prayer to Abba.

I'm asking what it means to you. Because my meaning of that phrase wasn't correct to you.

 

[Tone]

I'm asking what it means to you. Because my meaning of that phrase wasn't correct to you.

I am praying for this as well.

But, I'm pretty sure it has to do with when He said, ‘Truly I tell you,whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me.’

 

[Toro]

Read the verse in context. World is referring to the inhabitants.

Did I say it had nothing to do with the inhabitants?

I covered both the literal "world" AND its inhabitants in my last post. You dont agree or hold conversations with the literal world itself, so one can only find itself in agreement with, other inhabitants. (The world)

Again, we are called to be more like Christ.... NOT to be led to be more condeming and judgemental as that of the likeness of a Pharisee.