Is homosexuality a sin?

[Jase]

As the poll currently stands it's almost double for the "yes" answer.

I think that's rather sad considering Christians are the ones to be polling here..

What ever happened to purity? Whatever happened to holiness, without which, no one will see the Lord?

Whatever happneded to Jesus, Living His Holy Life in and through us who believe?

And the one's voting yes certainly aren't voting in the spirit of Jesus. Whatever happened to Christians actually acting like Christ? I'm having trouble seeing that demonstrated.

 

[OllieFranz]

They show this is the concern of those orgs. Why are they concerned if gays are such wonderful people and homosexuality so enlightening? Why not rejoice in the coming of the gay worldview? They are deeply oppositional to gay rights. For a good reason. Recruitment or seduction.


What? Christians would not be allowed to recruit others into a day of silence for the crucified Christ or Christian martyrs anywhere. Our young people have to gather before school and outside. And ANY attempt at encouraging others would be smashed by opposition.



It is a very effective recruitment technique. Genius even. Anyone opposing is ostracised by school staff. yes, genius technique.



Thank you for proving my point. Incredible advertising technique. Pure genius. Supernaturally impressive almost. ANY opposition is guilty of hate in the highest meaning of the word.

Ohhh that the Gospel were allowed such a manipulation to enter our schools. But that's illegal.

Then please enlighten me on the good reasons to oppose a silent memorial to the victims of senseless murders.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

They show this is the concern of those orgs. Why are they concerned if gays are such wonderful people and homosexuality so enlightening? Why not rejoice in the coming of the gay worldview? They are deeply oppositional to gay rights. For a good reason. Recruitment or seduction.

Just what the heck is the "gay world view"?

 

[Zeena]

When did Jesus say being gay was a sin?

Mark 10:6-8
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I think this is an interesting statement. Are you implying that only the red letters in the new testiment are valid & the rest not? If so why not throw the rest away? But would that cast any doubt on the validity of the Gospels?

No one is saying the bits of the Bible that aren't the words of Christ are without value. But its idolatry plain and simple to elevate the words of those who aren't Christ to the same level as His words, merely because they happen to be in the same book.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Mark 10:6-8
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

And where does Jesus say cherry picking and quote mining is OK?

The verse you just quoted is from a discussion about divorce in Jesus' contemporary culture. NOT about what types of marriage are acceptible, and CERTAINLY not about sexuality in general.

Heck, if Mark 10:6-8 is just as condemnatory of CELIBACY as it is of homosexuality, but I guess that doesn't bother you.

 

[Jase]

Mark 10:6-8
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

Sorry, I don't see any reference to gays in this passage, try again?

 

[Zeena]

Mark 10:6-8
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

Sorry, I don't see any reference to gays in this passage, try again?

What you see is referrence to male and female being made one flesh, not male and male, not female and female.

Eve is from Adam, therfore only she can fulfill him.

 

[david_x]

Phelps was quite popular in the Christian community until he branched out from attacking and protesting the funerals of Gay men and started including the same behavior at the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq.

I think his wikipedia page said he did some big things for the African-american community.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Mark 10:6-8
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.What you see is referrence to male and female being made one flesh, not male and male, not female and female.

Eve is from Adam, therfore only she can fulfill him.

Again, a discussion about marriage, not sexuality in general.

Again, if you want to insist that the Adam and Eve paradigm is the only one acceptible to God, it raises more problems for you than it solves... I mean, if you live your intimate live strictly by the Adam and Eve paradigm, shouldn't you marry your siblings?

 

[anyman]

Just what the heck is the "gay world view"?

If Christ is the word & more specificaly the word made flesh, then wouldn't all of the passages have the same validity?

 

[Jase]

Eve is from Adam, therfore only she can fulfill him.

Actually, Adam and Eve are a metaphor and weren't real. Men don't have 1 less rib than women, despite what many conservatives like to believe.

And as enemy pointed out, your argument poses a strong problem for celibates since they can't cleave to their husband or wife.

 

[BigBadWlf]

Mark 10:6-8
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

I would still like to know when Jesus said being gay was a sin

 

[BigBadWlf]

Mark 10:6-8
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.What you see is referrence to male and female being made one flesh, not male and male, not female and female.

Eve is from Adam, therfore only she can fulfill him.

EnemyParty pointed out one flaw in your view. The second flaw is the fact that the bible contains no less than seven forms of marriage all blessed by God and the most common type of biblical marriage is polygamous

 

[Zaac]

I would still like to know when Jesus said being gay was a sin

Being "gay" is no more a sin than being "straight". Orientations simply are not sinful.

God points out ACTS as sinful. There are sinful heterosexual sex acts. And ALL homosexual sex acts are sinful.

And it is ALL God's word, not just the words in red.

 

[Zaac]

Actually, Adam and Eve are a metaphor and weren't real. Men don't have 1 less rib than women, despite what many conservatives like to believe.

And as enemy pointed out, your argument poses a strong problem for celibates since they can't cleave to their husband or wife.

You've been reading too many folk tales about Christian conservatives. Since when do we believe that men have one less rib than women?

And if Adam and Eve were a metaphor, then so is Jesus for He came through that bloodline.

The problem with not taking God at His word is that you'r eleft to create your own version of god that IS NOT God.

 

[Zaac]

EnemyParty pointed out one flaw in your view. The second flaw is the fact that the bible contains no less than seven forms of marriage all blessed by God and the most common type of biblical marriage is polygamous

And this would be a lie. At no point does God advocate as RIGHT any marriage other than marriage between one man and his one wife.

He ALLOWED for some stuff, but just like divorce that He allows, it is STILL sinful.

 

[Zaac]

Sorry, I don't see any reference to gays in this passage, try again?

And just as will be the case during the Tribulation period, God will let folks continue to believe the lie as they march on to the lake of fire.

Nobody is gonna beg or convince anyone that the truth is the truth. As God has written His truth on every man's heart, deep in there, when you're in that secret place where it's just you, you question what you believe and KNOW that God's truth is the ONLY Truth.

 

[Zaac]

No one is saying the bits of the Bible that aren't the words of Christ are without value. But its idolatry plain and simple to elevate the words of those who aren't Christ to the same level as His words, merely because they happen to be in the same book.

SMH. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. Tim 3:16-17

That is ALL Scripture. That means more than just the words in red are GOD's. Why on earth would a God who tells you that He is not the author of confusion...why would He stick His word that you can trust in with a bunch of words you can't trust? That's crazy.

It's ALL God's word. And it ALL points to Jesus who IS God.

 

[AlAyeti]

And just as will be the case during the Tribulation period, God will let folks continue to believe the lie as they march on to the lake of fire.

Nobody is gonna beg or convince anyone that the truth is the truth. As God has written His truth on every man's heart, deep in there, when you're in that secret place where it's just you, you question what you believe and KNOW that God's truth is the ONLY Truth.

As Dinesh D'Souza points out, the doors in hell are locked from the inside.