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Is homosexual “love” immoral?

Discussion in 'Archived - Ethics & Morality' started by chnchris, Apr 27, 2007.

  1. Goodchild

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    Too long, didn't read.

    I suspect it's just the usual christian tripe. Jeez, you guys get so wound up about homosexuality it's almost as if you're completely fascinated by it. Makes me wonder sometimes if there's a whole lot of christians out there with the urge to "get gay" and are just trying to fight it off. Like Lord_Marx said, I don't even think about homosexuality as much as these guys do and I loves me some gay pron just about every day :D
     
  2. serephim02

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    edited dont know why
     
  3. Goodchild

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    The ramblings and delusions of bronze-age tribesmen and their opinion on what is moral or ethical do not impress me. These were the same folk that thought slavery, slaughtering the men and children of entire cities, forcibly taking and raping the remaining women, killing your child for sassing you etc ad nauseum were just fine and dandy moral and ethical beliefs.
     
  4. quatona

    quatona "God"? What do you mean??

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    Can someone please shed some light on this for me.

    Here in Europe "marriage" is a legal institution/contract.
    Religious organizations have their addtional religious marriage rites, though.
    So when hearing or talking "gay marriage" I am thinking the topic is the extension of the legal institution so that it includes same sex marriages, and I find the mentioning of gods and their ideas of marriage a little confusing - dare I say irrelevant? - in these discussions.

    Is the situation in America different? When saying "marriage" do people talk about the rites of churches, as opposed to a legal institution?

    To put it simply:
    If someone in America says "I am married", do you understand they went to the registry office for or do you understand they went to church?

    Who has those privileges and obligations coming with marriage - those who are legally married or those who have been married in a church ceremony?
     
  5. CCGirl

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    Yup! Sounds like my marriage!:thumbsup: (And to raise our children to be wonderful, thoughful, productive, caring members of society.
     
  6. crazyfingers

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    The official site policy and the majority of the staff are actually militantly anti-homosexual.
     
  7. crazyfingers

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    I suggest that Homosexuals have always been a part of your church and it's as much their as yours.
     
  8. ManOfTheAmish

    ManOfTheAmish Christian Philosopher And Naturalist.

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    What is the point listing any evidence? You guys will just brush it off ignoring my whole posts in the name of political correctness.

    ( Has happened many times now in many threads)

    I have listed scientifical and biological reasons why homosexuality is unnatural but still people cling to their homosexual doctrines.
     
  9. EnemyPartyII

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    Except that, of course, He never says any such thing.
     
  10. EnemyPartyII

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    Which mentions homosexuality where... exactly?
    That was all about Adam and Eve (whom I don't believe to be real historical figures anyway, but even if they were...) and their being united... it doesn't say that such a union HAS to be between a man and a woman though, anywhere at all, unless I'm mistaken.
     
  11. Goodchild

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    See, it's nonsense like this that makes the anti-homosexual spoutings look even more ridiculous than usual. Doctrines? What, you think we all get together and chant "This be the first commandment of homosexuality: Adorneth thy home well. Yadda Yadda" and demand obeisance to the Most Holy Cher?
     
  12. EnemyPartyII

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    I think they really do. Just wait till they get on a roll again about the evil "homosexual agenda" that is sinisterely infiltrating schools for the express purpose of corrupting our otherewise wholesome Christian youth
     
  13. Arnold_Philips

    Arnold_Philips what

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    You use the term "political correctness" a lot. I do not think you know what it means exactly.

    My money's on the fact that you don't know much about genetics or biology in general.
     
  14. Red530

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    Never in the Bible does it say that homosexuality is sinful. All it says in the Bible is that homosexual sex out of marriage is sinful, at least that is what it says in my CATHOLIC BIBLE.
     
  15. MewtwoX

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    The question is whether their work has been found to be compromised by Pro or Anti Gay perceptions.

    While there is much debate about the methodologies of experiments, I don't recall them being found of any wanton lying or deceitful (known false) propositions put forward as facts.



    So the problem is varied sexual practices and not orientation? Or are you asserting that any sexual activity not done towards the Christian god will be plagued with illnesses and suffering?

    What exactly are "pagan" sexual practices?



    No, I simply lack a sexual attraction to either gender.
     
  16. SimplyMe

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    Actually, I've not seen any true evidence from you. Instead, you've stated your opinion as if it were fact, despite the fact there typically are rather glaring logical flaws in your argument. You know, like how if eyes aren't all the same (different colors) that it is differentiation but if sexuality isn't the same in everyone, then it's not differentiation but unnatural. Yet you can't seem to explain why in one it is differentiation and in the other it is "unnatural" except that it is your opinion.

    I've not responded to any of your posts with "political correctness", nor have I seen others do it either (thought it is possible I missed one or two). I've not seen you post anything that references outside experts that back up your beliefs, rather it is you who ignores evidence in the name of "fundamentalist correctness".

    Again, where is the proof for your assertions (and looking back at your previous posts, I can't find any true evidence)?
     
  17. seebs

    seebs God Made Me A Skeptic

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    What I would see as immoral is putting scare quotes around love to imply that it's not really love.

    Love is love. God is God.

    Half-baked analysis of misunderstood Greek doesn't change this.
     
  18. ManOfTheAmish

    ManOfTheAmish Christian Philosopher And Naturalist.

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    Have you even looked at any of my posts in other threads?
     
  19. SimplyMe

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    You mean besides the ones I've previously replied to on other threads, yes, I have. Before making the comment I even did a "view all posts" to double check. Though, it is possible I missed one where you actually provide evidence that isn't just your opinion.
     
  20. EnemyPartyII

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    I have... and you tried really hard to say that any group that is in the minority is somehow deviant... without adequately explaining why this doesn't mean anyone who isn't a right handed Chinese person isn't a deviant... and then you tried to pass of a bunch of personal opinion as objective evidence, and then you hightailed it outa there
     
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