Is God omnipotent?

[zoidar]

I have started this thread to show that all Christians believe God is omnipotent. Christians just have a different view of what omnipotens means.

It's like when an agnostic friend asked me if God could make a squared circle. I said: "No!" Then he said that God wasn't all mighty. If God can't do illogical things that is against His nature, that doesn't have to mean He isn't all mighty. Me and my friend just had different views of what all mighty means, it doesn't mean his or my view must be more correct.

We'll see what the poll says, if my thinking is right.

Edit: I just used the squared circle example to show we can have different meaning of the same word, and that one view doesn't have to be more correct than the other. The choice "God Wills everything"- alternative in the poll was not meant as He wills impossible things, but that He wills everything possible. Added two new choices, since I can't change old ones.

 

[Noxot]

If God had power over peoples sin then no one would have sin. God has Providence in that he can organize us even though we are free to be ourselves. That's why there is a hell and there is a heaven. the Kingdom of God has not fully come about because even though God is willing man is not always willing.

God is certainly omnipotent but I don't know if there is a correct choice for me to select in the poll since God Wills man's freedom and man's Freedom can give birth to evil, which God does not will.

God has sovereignty in ways that we certainly do not have but God does not have sovereignty over my own freedom because if my freedom was his then I would not exist, only God would. If I had no freedom I could never thirst or hunger for righteousness or wisdom and so I could never receive the truth and grace of God which sets me free and which enlightens my own freedom to be in harmony with God.

 

[UnpopularOpinion]

I have started this thread to show that all Christians believe God is omnipotent. Christians just have a different view of what omnipotens means.

It's like when an agnostic friend asked me if God could make a squared circle. I said: "No!" Then he said that God wasn't all mighty. If God can't do illogical things that is against His nature, that doesn't have to mean He isn't all mighty. Me and my friend just had different views of what all mighty means, it doesn't mean his or my view must be more correct.

We'll see what the poll says, if my thinking is right.

ye it's play on words tbh
yes God is powerfull
and no He can't do all things

it's not like he wills something and it doesnt happen cuz he lacks power to do it , its just that he can't will against his own nature

 

[eleos1954]

I have started this thread to show that all Christians believe God is omnipotent. Christians just have a different view of what omnipotens means.

It's like when an agnostic friend asked me if God could make a squared circle. I said: "No!" Then he said that God wasn't all mighty. If God can't do illogical things that is against His nature, that doesn't have to mean He isn't all mighty. Me and my friend just had different views of what all mighty means, it doesn't mean his or my view must be more correct.

We'll see what the poll says, if my thinking is right.

omnipotent

well .... He created the universe and everything in it .... so of course He is
omnipotent

 

[com7fy8]

Jesus Christ is the Lord of all. God has all in control in relation to Jesus and God's purpose with Christ.

Love is almighty to do whatever love pleases to do.

God is almighty to do what He pleases to do, for His love purpose. He is in control of evil, for His love benefit . . . including like how He used the crucifixion of Christ for His all-loving good.

And what matters for us is that God shares this power with us, in His love and peace almighty, guiding us so we are unstoppable to do what God is committed to doing with us . . . including overcoming evil howsoever He pleases >

"Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." (Romans 12:21)

 

[St_Worm2]

Hello @zoidar, by omnipotence we mean that God can do anything .. that can be done.

Can He make a square circle? No, because that cannot be done (unless He changes the nature of the universe itself such that a geometric shape with four corners and four even sides is referred to as a circle instead of a square).

Can He make a rock so big that He can't lift it. No, because (again) while God can do ANYTHING than can be done, He cannot do what cannot be done.

God bless you!

--David

 

[Maria Billingsley]

I have started this thread to show that all Christians believe God is omnipotent. Christians just have a different view of what omnipotens means.

It's like when an agnostic friend asked me if God could make a squared circle. I said: "No!" Then he said that God wasn't all mighty. If God can't do illogical things that is against His nature, that doesn't have to mean He isn't all mighty. Me and my friend just had different views of what all mighty means, it doesn't mean his or my view must be more correct.

We'll see what the poll says, if my thinking is right.

I did not vote because there is another way to look at His Omnipotence. Our Father does have limitless power and He does have a "will" over everything. He willed man to have a choice.
Be blessed.

 

[bling]

The all powerful God can will to have all mature adults make some very limited autonomous free will choices if He wants, so it becomes His will.

 

[Hmm]

Can God lie or, horrible thought, commit suicide? Perhaps He could but I think we can categorically say that he wouldn't because they would be against His nature.

There are also logical puzzles such as can He create a universe that contains both an immovable object and an irresistible force. There may be some good philosophical answers to this but on the face of it it seems that He can't.

 

[zoidar]

ye it's play on words tbh
yes God is powerfull
and no He can't do all things

it's not like he wills something and it doesnt happen cuz he lacks power to do it , its just that he can't will against his own nature

I just used the squared circle example to show we can have different meaning of the same word, and that one view doesn't have to be more correct than the other. The choice "God Wills everything" in the poll was not meant as He wills impossible things, but that He wills everything possible.

 

[zoidar]

I did not vote because there is another way to look at His Omnipotence. Our Father does have limitless power and He does have a "will" over everything. He willed man to have a choice.
Be blessed.

I think the second alternative fits that. God wills people to have a free choice, but he doesn't will everything they choose, does He?

 

[zoidar]

Started a new thread:

Is God omnipotent and controls everything?

 

[1213]

...It's like when an agnostic friend asked me if God could make a squared circle. ...

Even I could do that, so it should not be a problem to the one who made this world.

I believe God is omnipotent and so can do whatever He wants and has power over all.

 

[Albion]

It's like when an agnostic friend asked me if God could make a squared circle. I said: "No!" Then he said that God wasn't all mighty.

But this is just a trick with words, not a real possibility. Since it doesn't actually exist as a possibility, we cannot ask for it to be done.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

I think the second alternative fits that. God wills people to have a free choice, but he doesn't will everything they choose, does He?

He can not will free choice then turn around and will those very choices. So no.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

He can not will free choice then turn around and will those very choices. So no.

This is not a conundrum.

 

[Noxot]

Nothing is above God. God is before and greater than possibility. We Mortals are confused and believe that anyone can go against God because we see a tiny sliver of reality. A greater view of reality will show that the greater workings are all in unity with God and darkness was a hiccup that Grace danced with.

 

[zoidar]

He can not will free choice then turn around and will those very choices. So no.

I quess.