Is Donald Trump's wall necessary to prevent child abuse?

[Annie Proclivite]

This post isn’t a joke. Hear me out.

A lot of illegal aliens are crossing the US-Mexican border with their young children. When they are caught breaking the law, the children are separated from their families, which in my opinion constitutes child abuse. But it isn’t child abuse at the hands of the US government. Rather, the onus is on the illegal alien parents who are therefore responsible for getting their kids taken away because they broke the law.

An analogy: What if I had kids and started cooking and dealing crystal methamphetamine. I eventually get caught and separated from my kids. It’s my own fault because I severely broke the law.

Is Donald Trump’s wall, which would stop illegal border crossings, therefore necessary to prevent child abuse?

 

[A_Thinker]

This post isn’t a joke. Hear me out.

A lot of illegal aliens are crossing the US-Mexican border with their young children. When they are caught breaking the law, the children are separated from their families, which in my opinion constitutes child abuse. But it isn’t child abuse at the hands of the US government. Rather, the onus is on the illegal alien parents who are therefore responsible for getting their kids taken away because they broke the law.

An analogy: What if I had kids and started cooking and dealing crystal methamphetamine. I eventually get caught and separated from my kids. It’s my own fault because I severely broke the law.

Is Donald Trump’s wall, which would stop illegal border crossings, therefore necessary to prevent child abuse?

The difference, in the case of emigrants seeking asylym, ... is that they and their children's native circumstances so THREATEN the health and safety of their children ... that if they didn't try to MOVE their children into a safer living context, ... that would be CHILD ABUSE.

And let's face it ... Trump's wall would do nothing about the CHILD ABUSE that occurs within the boundaries of the US.

So let's stop being facetious ... Trump's wall and child abuse have nothing to do with one another ...

 

[SkyWriting]

This post isn’t a joke. Hear me out.

A lot of illegal aliens are crossing the US-Mexican border with their young children. When they are caught breaking the law, the children are separated from their families, which in my opinion constitutes child abuse. But it isn’t child abuse at the hands of the US government. Rather, the onus is on the illegal alien parents who are therefore responsible for getting their kids taken away because they broke the law.

An analogy: What if I had kids and started cooking and dealing crystal methamphetamine. I eventually get caught and separated from my kids. It’s my own fault because I severely broke the law.

Is Donald Trump’s wall, which would stop illegal border crossings, therefore necessary to prevent child abuse?

Or taking down the wall. That'd work too. Build a road instead of a wall.

 

[Annie Proclivite]

The difference, in the case of emigrants seeking asylym, ... is that they and their children's native circumstances so THREATEN the health and safety of their children ... that if they didn't try to MOVE their children into a safer living context, ... that would be CHILD ABUSE.

And let's face it ... Trump's wall would do nothing about the CHILD ABUSE that occurs within the boundaries of the US.

So let's stop being facetious ... Trump's wall and child abuse have nothing to do with one another ...

You don't think that separating children from their parents constitutes child abuse?

 

[A_Thinker]

You don't think that separating children from their parents constitutes child abuse?

Parents sometimes make these decisions for the benefit of their children.

Non-parents making decisions to separate children from loving parents does constitute child abuse, IMHO ...

 

[Annie Proclivite]

Parents sometimes make these decisions for the benefit of their children.

Non-parents making decisions to separate children from loving parents does constitute child abuse, IMHO ...

What if I were poor and making minimum wage. I would need money to provide for my kids. So let's say I start cooking and dealing crystal methamphetamine. I make lucrative amounts of money. It's to benefit my children, so why not? I eventually get caught and hauled off to jail. Doing something illegal to help kids is never right.

 

[A_Thinker]

What if I were poor and making minimum wage. I would need money to provide for my kids. So let's say I start cooking and dealing crystal methamphetamine. I make lucrative amounts of money. It's to benefit my children, so why not? I eventually get caught and hauled off to jail. Doing something illegal to help kids is never right.

Man-made LAW is not the ultimate basis on which MORALITY is based, especially for christians. God's LAW says to WELCOME the STRANGER who comes to your land ... and to take them in.

The founders of modern-day America had no scruples against coming into and TAKING this land that we live in from its original inhabitants, ... and are now, making man-made LAWS such that anyone else seeking to come into the land is performing a criminal act.

 

[Annie Proclivite]

Man-made LAW is not the ultimate basis on which MORALITY is based, especially for christians. God's LAW says to WELCOME the STRANGER who comes to your land ... and to take them in.

The founders of modern-day America had no scruples against coming into and TAKING this land that we live in from its original inhabitants, ... and are now, making man-made LAWS such that anyone else seeking to come into the land is performing a criminal act.

Should the entire world be allowed to immigrate to the US without restrictions? If you were in charge, how many immigrants would you admit into our country per year?

 

[A_Thinker]

Should the entire world be allowed to immigrate to the US without restrictions? If you were in charge, how many immigrants would you admit into our country per year?

The entire world is not trying to immigrate to the US.

Why not let God determine who will come into the land which He allowed YOUR forefathers to emigrate to ?

 

[Annie Proclivite]

The entire world is not trying to immigrate to the US.

Why not let God determine who will come into the land which He allowed YOUR forefathers to emigrate to ?

Answer the question: How many people would you admit to the US per year if you were in charge? 1 million, 2 million, 3 million? I need to know.

 

[brinny]

This post isn’t a joke. Hear me out.

A lot of illegal aliens are crossing the US-Mexican border with their young children. When they are caught breaking the law, the children are separated from their families, which in my opinion constitutes child abuse. But it isn’t child abuse at the hands of the US government. Rather, the onus is on the illegal alien parents who are therefore responsible for getting their kids taken away because they broke the law.

An analogy: What if I had kids and started cooking and dealing crystal methamphetamine. I eventually get caught and separated from my kids. It’s my own fault because I severely broke the law.

Is Donald Trump’s wall, which would stop illegal border crossings, therefore necessary to prevent child abuse?

I agree.

In addition, many of the children were with non-parents. They were with "Coyote's" (those who smuggle humans over the border, many of them children). And Coyote's rape children. That's why these female girls are given birth control, to keep from getting pregnant. The naivete' that most have about these children accompanied by their "parents" is downright dangerous and compounds the problem.

The bottom line, is that yes, it's at the very least, child abuse. In addition it compounds the ever-growing and rampant problem of child sex trafficking and the pedophilia (that we hear only the "tip of the iceberg" about).

It's monstrous.

 

[dqhall]

This post isn’t a joke. Hear me out.

A lot of illegal aliens are crossing the US-Mexican border with their young children. When they are caught breaking the law, the children are separated from their families, which in my opinion constitutes child abuse. But it isn’t child abuse at the hands of the US government. Rather, the onus is on the illegal alien parents who are therefore responsible for getting their kids taken away because they broke the law.

An analogy: What if I had kids and started cooking and dealing crystal methamphetamine. I eventually get caught and separated from my kids. It’s my own fault because I severely broke the law.

Is Donald Trump’s wall, which would stop illegal border crossings, therefore necessary to prevent child abuse?

Congress passed a bill funding a border wall. Donald Trump did not sign it because, A. he did not actually intend to build a border wall, or B. he did not want to help DACA children as part of the deal.

It is like Republicans had control of the House, Senate and White House and did not pass a bill against abortion, but some of them call Democrats baby killers. There are people who wanted the right to an abortion if the mother's life could be saved by one. There are Catholics who approved of the morning after pregnancy prevention pill in cases where nuns were raped.

 

[brinny]

The entire world is not trying to immigrate to the US.

Why not let God determine who will come into the land which He allowed YOUR forefathers to emigrate to ?

God doesn't give a thumbs up to illegally crossing borders nor to the illegal trespassing that this is.

 

[Petros2015]

An analogy: What if I had kids and started cooking and dealing crystal methamphetamine. I eventually get caught and separated from my kids. It’s my own fault because I severely broke the law.

What if you had kids and criminals were threatening to kidnap, rape and kill them unless you paid them $2000 (which you don't have) and the authorities in your country were either not capable of or not interested in keeping them safe? You'd head for the border, wall or no wall, illegal or legal as fast as you could.

 

[majj27]

You don't think that separating children from their parents constitutes child abuse?

Sounds like you should be taking that up with Jeff "Separation Senpai" Sessions.

 

[majj27]

An analogy: What if I had kids and started cooking and dealing crystal methamphetamine. I eventually get caught and separated from my kids. It’s my own fault because I severely broke the law.

Meth production and distribution: Both are felonies is most states. You're looking at decades of prison if convicted.

Unauthorized border crossing: Federal Misdemeanor.

You're comparing apples and surfboards. Unless you think that ANY criminal charge should mandate forcibly splitting up a family.

Also, no, the wall is not needed to prevent child abuse. It isn't needed at all.

 

[Annie Proclivite]

God doesn't give a thumbs up to illegally crossing borders nor to the illegal trespassing that this is.

I asked him how many people should be allowed to come to the US per year. He suspiciously refused to answer my question. These people never want to admit that open borders means 10 million people would immigrate to the US each year. Adding 100 million people every decade would be a national disaster.

 

[Annie Proclivite]

Meth production and distribution: Both are felonies is most states. You're looking at decades of prison if convicted.

Unauthorized border crossing: Federal Misdemeanor.

You're comparing apples and surfboards. Unless you think that ANY criminal charge should mandate forcibly splitting up a family.

Also, no, the wall is not needed to prevent child abuse. It isn't needed at all.

You’re right. My analogy was unfair—to drug dealers. Illegal immigration is far worse than using meth.

 

[Annie Proclivite]

What if you had kids and criminals were threatening to kidnap, rape and kill them unless you paid them $2000 (which you don't have) and the authorities in your country were either not capable of or interested in keeping them safe? You'd head for the border, wall or no wall, illegal or legal as fast as you could.

Not every illegal alien is escaping kidnappers. Many of them come to the US to commit crimes.

 

[brinny]

I asked him how many people should be allowed to come to the US per year. He suspiciously refused to answer my question. These people never want to admit that open borders means 10 million people would immigrate to the US each year. Adding 100 million people every decade would be a national disaster.

i agree.

The bottom line is, that this country has always welcomed immigrants. LEGAL ones.