John 8:43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
If that was against rules then CF will need to start banning sound doctrine. I speak of the things my Father God has taught me, what do you speak and who taught you?
I have read some of these posts, but this one here specifically could not go unanswered. First of all, NO ONE has any right to wield those specific words of judgement except the LORD Jesus Christ, Himself. Jesus Christ is very serious when He says, "Judge not, lest ye be judged." direct reference:
Matthew 7:1-5 "Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye"
So that is the baseline. Here is the background of that verse you shared on Judgment. I am not going to do all the work for you in this research, but it is important to understand what the given scripture verse is referring to. If you want clues on how to find the information I am about to tell you about, look up Dr. Michael S, Heiser, a very well-known scholar of the nuances of the obscure parts of the Bible.
I will make this short: On the John 8:43 passage, Jesus Christ was addressing the impure hybrids of the day. These were not fully human people. They were the people who were the offspring of the Genesis 6 "giants" who were born of the "sons of God" when they mated with the daughters of men. These people were the ones whom David went on a massive crusade to wipe from the land. Remember Goliath?? He was not fully human. He was one of these hybrids. It is EXTREMELY important to know the context and historical background of a biblical text BEFORE slinging it at people as a weapon. Did you know that the Word is sharper than a two edged sword? If you are cutting up your brother, you are cutting up yourself too.
Next. Jesus is Judge. End of story. We are not to condemn, but to edify and encourage our brothers. Sometimes, admonition is called for, like I am doing now. I am not being prideful, but I am very upset at the irresponsible "use" of the Holy Scriptures.
I try to ask myself if I belong on the judgment seat of Christ or if Jesus does, before I start judging people, much less call them a "child of the devil." Obviously, Jesus belongs in the judgement seat now and forever. He is forever praised. Amen.
In that passage that was given, Jesus said to this same group of people who were trying to stone him, "You are gods." Why would He say that. Humans are not gods, are we? But the hybrid people found in Genesis 6, "the Men of ancient lore" were. This is where the ancients get much of their mythologies. They were evil, because the sons of god were the fallen angels who left the Council of Heaven when Lucifer fell and became satan. These are the fallen angels found in the Book of Jude. I am going to give you one last scripture verse to look through and study. I pray that those who have been hurt by this judgment of this last person's post would find consolation to know that we, as humans have a fallen nature, but we are born into the family of Christ through the atonement in Christ's blood. He died was buried, and rose again on the third day and ascended to Heaven to redeem those under the law of sin and death by faith though grace; and not by any works of our own, lest anyone should boast.
Jude 1:4-7 "4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them, in like manner giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
Paul says, "Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible, but I will not be mastered by anything." 1:Corinthians 8
The Holy Bible: King James Version. (2009). (Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version., Jud 4–7). Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
The Holy Bible: King James Version. (2009). (Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version., Mt 7). Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
The game itself is as unclean as the food is to the Christians in the passage (and you might notice the passage says the food is not unclean, except to those who think it is).
