Is birth control an abomination?

[Rebecca12]

In Genesis 1:28, God ordained that his adherents be fruitful and multiply.

. Humans have multiplied. This is a done deal. In fact, humans have now overpopulated the earth.

There is also a strategic reason why God ordered his adherents to procreate a lot. In the long term, the ultra-religious will eventually outnumber the secularists, leftists, and other sorts of ungodly people who don’t value faith.

Why do you assume leftists are ungodly? Or that people who value a secular society are ungodly and don't value faith?

 

[compassion 4 humanity]

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Why do you assume leftists are ungodly? Or that people who value a secular society are ungodly and don't value faith?

Being "pro-choice" and supporting abortion isn't a godly thing.

 

[Dave RP]

Being "pro-choice" and supporting abortion isn't a godly thing.

Being left wing and pro choice are not necessarily the same thing. Abortion is a personal choice, a tough one for the person concerned, being secular or liberal are also personal choices but that don’t always go together.

 

[Rebecca12]

Being "pro-choice" and supporting abortion isn't a godly thing.

Pro choice isn't necessarily supporting abortion. In fact, arguably the left does more to prevent abortions by working to make sure birth control is available to women. In Colorado the abortion rate dropped significantly when free birth control was made available for those who could not afford it.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

for those who could not afford it.

Everyone can afford abstinence.

So-called "free" control is paid for by the beast system , and some forms cause many many deaths in the process.

 

[Rebecca12]

Everyone can afford abstinence.

So-called "free" control is paid for by the beast system , and some forms cause many many deaths in the process.

If your goal is preventing abortion then free and easy access to birth control is very effective at reducing the number abortions. Promoting abstinence has not been shown to be effective. But maybe your goal isn't reducing abortion.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

If your goal is preventing abortion then free and easy access to birth control is very effective at reducing the number abortions. Promoting abstinence has not been shown to be effective. But maybe your goal isn't reducing abortion.

In the world, the pernicious world , (where people live),
death and immorality can only increase, as it is doing. That won't change.

For those tho who turn to YHWH, because HIS KINGDOM is AT HAND (now, today),
they
enter or seek to enter into righteousness, and have no thought of birth control nor of murdering a baby in the womb.

Thus, among YHWH's born again people, in His Kingdom, is no murder.

Thus, the lies concerning "reducing" murder, are recognized as just that - lies.

People are offered LIFE, ETERNAL LIFE, and either accept it or not; they turn to YHWH or not.
If they don't, YHWH has no say in their life - they are with the whole world condemned.
That is more urgent than the politics of murdering babies in a murderous world.

If someone enters YHWH'S KINGDOM, "no murder", "no stealing", "no adultery" ....
those are all gone, and instead is RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE AND JOY ETERNAL.

Thus a FOREVER BLESSING, instead of a temporal anomaly.
LIFE , instead of DEATH.

Remember again, also - the anti-murder policies actually cause more deaths than they save (as if they save any). (it is too gross and unbecoming to detail that here, the abominations the world does; - look it up online or in a medical library).

 

[Rebecca12]

Remember again, also - the anti-murder policies actually cause more deaths than they save (as if they save any). (it is too gross and unbecoming to detail that here, the abominations the world does; - look it up online or in a medical library).

I am married to a doctor. He strongly disagrees with you. In fact, birth control saves lives.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I am married to a doctor. He strongly disagrees with you. In fact, birth control saves lives.

The medical community is set up under the control of money. They diagree with the truth every day.
The truth was frequently published though, they try every day to undo it, to cover it up, but it was still frequently published in the last hundred twenty years and before then.
So if people want to believe the truth, they can,
and if they want to believe the medical authorities controlled by politics and big business, they can do that too.

It all depends more on where their heart is, who or what they will believe.

 

[Rebecca12]

The medical community is set up under the control of money. They diagree with the truth every day.
The truth was frequently published though, they try every day to undo it, to cover it up, but it was still frequently published in the last hundred twenty years and before then.
So if people want to believe the truth, they can,
and if they want to believe the medical authorities controlled by politics and big business, they can do that too.

It all depends more on where their heart is, who or what they will believe.

Oh, I forgot. You are the one who essentially thinks my spouse is a liar and under control of others. Instead of someone who spent years educating himself and who works himself half to death. No more to say here.

 

[High Fidelity]

If a Christian couple is strong in faith, the foundations for their family are infinitely strong.

Doesn't mean they're in a financially sound position to parent a child. Perhaps one would lose their job for lack of accommodating their circumstances. There are more factors than faith in raising a child. God made us capable and intelligent; to squander both of those blessings in the expectation of God to pick up the slack is frankly insulting and diminishes the value of the Lord's provision.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

years educating himself and who works himself half to death.

He could have educated himself as I did, and learn the truth. (there are over 100,000 licensed ama doctors that did). That was always an option for him.
Then instead of working to death, he could work to life, for himself and others too.

 

[umbrabates]

In Genesis 1:28, God ordained that his adherents be fruitful and multiply.

6 billion people later, I think we can say "mission accomplished" and go on to have our 2.1 kids to maintain the population or fewer to get to a sustainable level. God also gave us the parable of the Bags of Gold.

The master cursed the servant who buried the gold and returned the exact amount without any interest. How are we doing with the Earth that God entrusted to us? Is it more beautiful, more bountiful, and productive than when we were given custodianship over it? Not even close. We're not even the servant who buried the gold. We have to meet our maker with a huge debt of pollution, deforestation, mountaintop removal, and mass extinction.

Multiplying without limit is a shallow, short-sighted and dangerous interpretation of the Bible.

 

[umbrabates]

Oh, I forgot. You are the one who essentially thinks my spouse is a liar and under control of others. Instead of someone who spent years educating himself and who works himself half to death. No more to say here.

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
-- George Bernard Shaw

 

[DogmaHunter]

In Genesis 1:28, God ordained that his adherents be fruitful and multiply. Our heavenly father specifically commanded us to make babies, lots of them. Therefore, it stands to reason that Christians who use birth control are committing an abomination. (If anyone thinks the scripture I quoted was meant for the distant past, you’re kidding yourself. 1 Peter 1:25 says that God’s word “endures forever,” so of course our heavenly father’s commandment to be fruitful and multiply is still relevant today.)

A befriended couple uses contraceptives and yet they have 3 children.
Just because you get to choose the moments where you try to get pregnant, doesn't prevent you from getting pregnant.

Seems rather obvious.

Some people may disagree with me and ask how can some Christian couples afford to have half a dozen children or more. Well, if you’re saved and belong to Christ, God will intervene and give you the help you need.

Uhu............
I hope you're not a real family advisor, because that's quite some terrible advice.

There is also a strategic reason why God ordered his adherents to procreate a lot. In the long term, the ultra-religious will eventually outnumber the secularists, leftists, and other sorts of ungodly people who don’t value faith. For example, Haredi Jews—meaning the ultra pious Jews who wear those hats and black suits, grow their bears, and devote their lives wholly to the Lord—comprise 9.9% of Israelis. Their birth rate is 6.2 children per woman, but the secular Jews in Israel barely have any kids. Because of these demographic changes, the Haredi are expected to be the majority of Israelis by mid-century.

Although in the long term, they'll get into genetic problems with all the interbreeding.

This is a good thing because Israel is generally secular and has enacted liberal ideologies like legal sodomite weddings. When the truly pious Jews become the majority, they will elect leaders who will get rid of those secular abominations, implement godly laws, and return Israel to holiness.

Will they also start killing people who work on the sabbath, stone disobedient children and reinstall slavery?

The same is true with Christians here in the US. Secularists and lefties, many of whom don’t believe in God or may consider themselves nominally Christian, which isn’t really Christian in the first place,

Thin ice.

What am saying? If you’re a good Christian who values faith, then it is an abomination if you think birth control is acceptable and practice it. As God’s faithful adherents, we must go forth and multiply, which will ensure our demographic majority against an ever depopulating liberal/secular population. If you want the future of humanity to be holy and pious, and not secular and ungodly and liberal, then do your Christian duty and have five, six, seven, eight, nine, or even ten children!

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