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Intrusive thoughts

Discussion in 'Obsessive Compulsive Disorder' started by Jacob Black, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. Jacob Black

    Jacob Black New Member

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    I've been suffering from intrusive thoughts with for the last several months.

    I think that it started around the time when I read about the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and the unforgivable sin. I didn't know what it meant at the time and suddenly the intrusive thoughts started acting up trying to curse the Holy Spirit, making me fear that I would lose my salvation. These thoughts became more frequent and vivid as time passed by, quickly turning into images in my head of myself actually hurting Jesus. When these horrifying images went away they were replaced by almost uncontrollable thoughts trying to curse the entire trinity. Currently I have the constant urge to curse with God's name in my head.

    Might this be a case of OCD/Scrupulosity or an evil spirit? I accept the former but don't neglect the latter since I have a history of being prone to OCD habits.
     
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  2. Sabertooth

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    You would have to get and take prescribed medication in order to find out.
     
  3. Aussie Pete

    Aussie Pete Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If the thoughts you have are not by the decision of your will, then it is an evil spirit. 2 Corinthians 10:4 & 5 tell us that. You have absolute authority to command the evil spirit to get out of your mind. It could take a while, but you will get free. One great help is Jesse Penn-Lewis, "War on the Saints". It should be required reading for all Christians.
     
  4. Blade

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    Hey.. 1st GOD can not lie. That Bible is HIS word. So if its written.. if GOD said it HE will do it. Its written think on these things "Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things."

    God has not give us the spirit of fear but of power and love and a SOUND MIND! You speak His word. Like I just wrote.. if fear comes up.. or anything about your mind.. NO.. its written God has not given me the spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind! And I have the joy of the lord. And I am strong in the lord in the power of HIS might. And Christ gave me His peace. I have the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus....Philippians.. read it.

    The basics. 1st.. God/Christ/holy Spirit are true. Can not lie. NEVER EVER does our Father use fear worry doubt or negative. Things like this. He ALWAYS uses peace. So if you are getting these thoughts fears worry... and about being SAVED! Then just FLIP IT! Think.. Satan can not tell the truth. :) read John 3 16-17 Rom 10 9:10 again. Do you BELIEVE that? Well then there is NOTHING that can take YOU from YOUR Fathers hand.

    And KNOW that JESUS gave YOU ALL power over the enemy and NOTHING shall by ANY means hurt you. The key is .. we MUST believe. The enemy will not stop until he knows that you know who you are in Christ.

    Yeah.. Christ is where? HELLO! IN YOU! Greater is HE aka Christ that is IN YOU then he thats in the world. All the enemy is doing is lying to you. And also you talked about a evil spirit. What does the word say? How out OT.. its not old.. Gods words NEVER get old.. they HAVE to do what HE said.. has to. OT said.. WHO EVER calls on the name of the lord SHALL BE DELIVERED!

    For you.. I LOVE this verse. Believe it not.. it was written with YOU and ALL of us in HIS mind
    Isa 41 10 "Fear not, for I am with you; Be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.’"
     
  5. com7fy8

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    I would say that wrong thoughts can indeed be brought by a wrong spirit.

    And our character can have a lot to do with what we do with it.

    So, I trust God to keep me from giving in to wrong stuff, plus to change my character so I am loving and pleasing to Him the way He wants while I am loving any and all people.

    One trick of Satanic thinking is to get you concerned mainly and even only about your own self . . . about pleasures you want, or security, or worrying about yourself in whatever way. And this can get us isolated with ourselves.

    So, do not allow that stuff to isolate you with concern only or mainly about your own self, I would say.

    Even if you do not trust and give in to wrong stuff, God does allow us to be tested.

    You might read and feed on how Paul had that thorn "messenger of Satan". It could get the better of Paul, it seems. Paul prayed for it to go away, but what seems to have worked is Paul heard from Jesus who said >

    "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." (in 2 Corinthians 12:7-15).

    I personally understand and trust how God's grace is His favor, yes, including His almighty action bringing all His good which He shares with us. And Satan can not stop this.

    So, when I fail and when hard stuff comes against me, I can simply be quiet and trust God to do what He wants with me; and Satan won't be able to stop Him, I offer :)

    There is very hard and nasty and cruel stuff, indeed, that can get the better of us; and it can seem so convincing. But I would not trust what Satanic stuff would have us thinking and feeling; but we can trust God to be our Good Judge who will do what He knows is good, with us.
     
  6. Tania11

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    This is Pure O... probably brought on by a fear of losing your salvation.

    John Bunyan had the same problem. He wrote pilgrims progress:
    The famous John Bunyan’s battle with blasphemous thoughts, feeling unforgivable, reprobate and demon possessed
    It happened also after he heard people talking about the unforgivable sin.

    Read up on the site. There's a lot of good info. What you have sounds a lot like Scrupulosity. A pill isn't a fix all. You have to really learn to ignore the urges and thoughts and it will make your fear go away in the long run. What is helpful to know is, the only unforgivable sin is walking away from Christ.

    Also, it’s not an urge. It’s an intrusive thought about an urge. An urge is something you clearly, unambiguously want without confusion. It comes with feelings that don't match your desires
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2020
  7. com7fy8

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    So, how are you doing, Jacob?
     
  8. Jacob Black

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    Better at the moment. My mind is easier and the intrusive were less over the last 2 days. I thank God that I'm not alone in this and I'm trying to continue to always trust him (but this isn't always successful). I'm still a spiritual newborn so I still have a very long way to go I think.
     
  9. com7fy8

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    We all can have thoughts which are not good, and we did not create them, ourselves. But God's peace is almighty. So, in His peace we can have protection against however wrong feelings or emotions or thoughts would violate us and effect us.

    "Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." (Philippians 4:6-7)

    Every one of us can get attacked by evil things; but God who is almighty can share His peace almighty with us, so we are protected from how Satanic things would effect us. And this is spiritual, in God's peace; this is not what a physical chemical can do in us. And this works in our "hearts and minds".

    And this is about how spiritual and able God is. This does not depend on how able we are, but how God is able. Every one of us needs how God is able to make us sound and stable. No one does this by oneself.

    Even so, our Heavenly Father is about family. So, He has us helping each other with this. So, being family with one another is included in our cure :)
     
  10. Scann

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    That is OCD. You keep on thinking of thoughts that imagine yourself doing things that you don't want to do. Don't blame yourself too much. It's your OCD mind and not your real intentions.
     
  11. NBB

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    I had intrusive thoughts that 'constant hammering of thoughts' 'that usually are something that bothers us and trigger us' stopped when i detected and drove off an evil spirit the thoughts stopped immediately, i hope i am able to say this here because i'm not lying!, i didn't have those thoughts ever again.
     
  12. Mari17

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    This is very classic OCD/scrupulosity! I'd highly recommend that you find an OCD specialist to work with, and/or research all you can about treating OCD/scrupulosity (and put it into practice!). I can recommend some good resources if you like!
     
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